pures = pointless?

[sirgudi]

Hi,

 

ive been at the duel arena, and i have realised. even 45 defence pures kinda suck against my 70 def and 79 strength...so what the point in them?

 

 

 

why not just get high strength, then 70 defence, so what...might get 10-20 cmb levels. ul still have high strength, and even better, high defence.

 

 

 

i really dont see the point in leaving one level low, it makes your account worse.

 

 

 

 

 

Elvemage has 70 defence, he is a tank. Kids ranqe is 1 defence, he is a pure...and still he refuses to get over 1 defence, when he got owned 3 times by Elvemage.

 

 

 

 

 

Post ur thoughts.

 

 

 

 

 

~~~Gudi~~~

[cocacolabottle]

Yes. Yes they are.

[nebnotsew]

pures suck at high combat

 

 

 

60 90 1 = free stuff

 

 

 

90 90 20 = raped by rune pures

[Freesia]

My opinion would be that pures has been around since very long ago where defence was not as strong. They came with 1 def started owning the wildy and more created pures to train. Now that defence has been made stronger, we may start seeing more range/mage pures.

[nebnotsew]

Also the duel arena isn't the wild lol, you would get owned in the wildy.

 

 

 

Elvemage is a tank, he loses lots when he dies

 

 

 

Kids ranqe is a pure, he can lose to Elvemage 3 times and then get a lucky ko and still make a profit

 

 

 

your gonna die alot as a high level pure but you can still make a profit

[Marvel Titan]

ive never seen the point in pures when ever ive came across one at castle wars pking or dueling ive always been hitting them very often and they complain saying im a defence noob, but hey id rather be a defence noob as to dying with 1 defence :-w

[biggy08755]

ive never seen the point in pures when ever ive came across one at castle wars pking or dueling ive always been hitting them very often and they complain saying im a defence noob, but hey id rather be a defence noob as to dying with 1 defence :-w

 

 

 

Pure's your lvl? Or just pures like 60 cmb?

[Muscular_Ape]

The point of pures are to hit nice and high at a low combat level. A lot of tankers do well against pures and a lot of pures do well against tankers. I wouldn't outright say tankers 100% own pures.

 

 

 

Even if they did, another point in a pure is to fight other pures. Don't say that's boring and it will be based on chance because most of the time, all aspects of PKing/Dueling are based on chance.

 

 

 

It's always the luck of the draw tbh.

[Cloudwolf]

Pures are more than worthwhile in f2p, as the added defense doesn;t really add much, considering that the best armour is rune. But above 70, they are kinda useless. I take most pures out, with 50 def & 60 str and att.

 

 

 

The fact is, once you get into p2p, there is much better armour, and they find it very hard to hit through, whilst the better weaponry in p2p shreds their defense.

 

 

 

So in my opinion, low level pures are good, high level ones are completley worthless.

[mpg321]

Most pures would not stand a chance against people with similar stats but alot higher defence, but since when can't you have defence pures..with high mage and range who may not have the ability to ko people as efficiently as melee pures but can be alot better generally.

[Muscular_Ape]

Pures are more than worthwhile in f2p, as the added defense doesn;t really add much, considering that the best armour is rune. But above 70, they are kinda useless. I take most pures out, with 50 def & 60 str and att.

 

 

 

The fact is, once you get into p2p, there is much better armour, and they find it very hard to hit through, whilst the better weaponry in p2p shreds their defense.

 

 

 

So in my opinion, low level pures are good, high level ones are completley worthless.

 

 

 

Hiei the PK is worthless o_O? He's a generally considered a pure :P .... with 25 def ^_^

[silver24-7]

pures are definitely useful.

 

Especially if you know how to use them well, if you really know how to manage a pure in such a way and with such an offense you could reach the point where you don't need your defense because your opponent is too busy getting owned to even attack you. So if you combine a pure with a nice mage lvl, preferably 94 to barrage, you will not need the defense at all, and you will be much stronger then other people of the same combat lvl.

 

Not to mention the way in which pures can get their opponents to die, if you hit constant 15's your opponent will eat and fight back and when h's low on food run or tele. But if you hit constant random numbers and then suddenly a 30 30 or a few 40+ specs, which can EASILY be done by a pure with over 80 strength, which is nothing really, then their opponent will not have time to eat nor tele and will fall over at their feet :)

 

 

 

So that's how pures DO own in several ways ;)

 

 

 

...Silver

[Kevin_]

Yeah they're a waste, often people make a pure only to quit with it over 6 months, if they reach the 6 month period offcourse, pures are a waste, stick with your main.

[m4gma]

Offtopic but how hard is it to hit 99 defence with 60 attack?

[sirgudi]

pures are definitely useful.

 

Especially if you know how to use them well, if you really know how to manage a pure in such a way and with such an offense you could reach the point where you don't need your defense because your opponent is too busy getting owned to even attack you. So if you combine a pure with a nice mage lvl, preferably 94 to barrage, you will not need the defense at all, and you will be much stronger then other people of the same combat lvl.

 

Not to mention the way in which pures can get their opponents to die, if you hit constant 15's your opponent will eat and fight back and when h's low on food run or tele. But if you hit constant random numbers and then suddenly a 30 30 or a few 40+ specs, which can EASILY be done by a pure with over 80 strength, which is nothing really, then their opponent will not have time to eat nor tele and will fall over at their feet :)

 

 

 

So that's how pures DO own in several ways ;)

 

 

 

...Silver

 

 

 

 

 

yeah, you can still hit high with 60+ defence. its not like a curse to stop all hits 25+.

 

 

 

i constantly hit 26s with my whip and d scimmy in the duel arena.

 

 

 

against barrows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i would say pures are good until 70 combat, when the defence starts to kick in.

 

 

 

1 def pures are just easy to kill in my eyes, i hit 26/26 dds spec, thats with quite a bad strength bonus. so...with there 1 def + my 75 attack, with 4 chances to hit double 26...there as good as dead.

 

 

 

 

 

the first time i ever really members pked, i took d scimmy, full proselyte, dds...against a rune pure.

 

 

 

my dds specs were:

 

17-0

 

23-0

 

24-0

 

23-0

 

 

 

and his specs were mostly 0s, i think he hit one double 9.

 

 

 

 

 

~~~Gudi~~~

[anonymouse_]

Yes, pures are useless.

[Craven_Image]

Pures have been pointless since RS2 started. They were very useful back in RSC and you could make money off them but nowadays it's pointless as hardly anyone is in the wilderness and if anyone is in the wilderness they won't be holding anything good.

[Latinoking]

Pures get owned in the wildy cuz people pj them

[sirgudi]

Pures get owned in the wildy cuz people pj them

 

 

 

 

 

if they wernt so low def, they wudnt be so tempted to pj them...

 

 

 

 

 

~~~Gudi~~~

[frogspoons]

Pures are not useless, they are great for dueling at mid levels and pking at all elvels depending where you go. Mage and rage pures and ddsers are good, go look at the graveyard section. (even though i made my pure ranger a tank mage/ranger and into my main)

[Marvel Titan]

ive never seen the point in pures when ever ive came across one at castle wars pking or dueling ive always been hitting them very often and they complain saying im a defence noob, but hey id rather be a defence noob as to dying with 1 defence :-w

 

 

 

Pure's your lvl? Or just pures like 60 cmb?

 

 

 

Pures my lvl i agree that lower lvl pures can be quite successful

[monkeyboo2]

My opinion would be that pures has been around since very long ago where defence was not as strong. They came with 1 def started owning the wildy and more created pures to train. Now that defence has been made stronger, we may start seeing more range/mage pures.

 

 

 

Defence has not been made stronger but its produce has. The armour is now better so hnigher defence asctually gains something worthwile that may even contribute to significant attack such as dharoks-the counter to all pures.

 

 

 

Also the duel arena isn't the wild lol, you would get owned in the wildy.

 

 

 

Elvemage is a tank, he loses lots when he dies

 

 

 

Kids ranqe is a pure, he can lose to Elvemage 3 times and then get a lucky ko and still make a profit

 

 

 

your gonna die alot as a high level pure but you can still make a profit

 

 

 

This is true, pures risk almost nothing and may rely on people not using their best armour in the wildy so not using their defence to their full potential. THis is why they lose in the duel arena, ppl are not afraid to use their best armour/weps/spells making pures a much less significant problem.

 

Also in the wildy yuo can get jumped by 10 pures all only worth about 100k each kill shoudl you mnanage to kill one before you die with your items worth up to 10 mil reallistically.

 

 

 

personally i thnink the ideas of pures is 'offense is the best defence', becos in RS if you can keep the other guy eating then he can hit no damage on you. So pures work well if they get a good first hit on a regular player. THe player is forced to eat to keep alive whilst the pure hits more damage on him leaving the pure with no need for defence. Offence can be the best defence. Just not with vengeance around :twisted: :twisted: :P

[sirgudi]

u see peeps with 60 attack and 99 strength...whats the point in a high strength if you never hit?

 

 

 

 

 

~~~Gudi~~~

[kamykazee]

Well in the past pures were very effective,and people have kept on making them although they are as good as they used to be.But i wouldn't say a pure is pointless.

[teefjeteef]

when there wasnt equip that hit you 8 higher they were ownning but now days a 70 70 70 against a max pure they one with average stats with good equipment owns them they dont have a change