Weekly Poll: How often do you see someone breaking...

[skeroh]

I chose, not all the time, but mostly. If I'm hanging around with my friends or training on monsters, autoers aren't that common. but including swearers, i see them everywhere.

[scn64]

I answered "occasionally". It's not like I'm actively looking for rule-breakers, though, so maybe I'm around them and just don't know it.

[unorclan]

everytime i get on and thats not often! go to world 1-4 at a bank and we got auto-talkers, scammers, hackers, more auto-talkers, ect ect ect

[purpieman2]

besides rule 7 breakers i see rune 1 breakers (offensive language)

[Ancang]

i voted for every time i play, but i admit that's because i go looking for rulebreakers... if i just played rs the way i really like to (members servers, emptiest world available) i'd hardly see any. but even then, i'd agree there's too many.

[reversal]

see at least 5-10 people with follow scams.

 

see at least 2-5 selling accounts

 

see at least 1 or none advertising a website offer rs gold

 

see at least 1 or none trimming armor

 

see at least 5 selling charcoal, polished buttons, muddey key

 

(not a scam but should be since they selling something useless

 

for a ridiculous amount)

 

see at least 3-5 quick switch scam

 

(jagex could do something about the trade system like add a trade history

 

instead doing weak updates)

[Wavemasta]

Every, and i mean every, time i play i see at least 20 macroers... sometimes i just take a pauze at a tree and report the noobs...

[stratotanker]

see at least 5-10 people with follow scams.

 

see at least 2-5 selling accounts

 

see at least 1 or none advertising a website offer rs gold

 

see at least 1 or none trimming armor

 

see at least 5 selling charcoal, polished buttons, muddey key

 

(not a scam but should be since they selling something useless

 

for a ridiculous amount)

 

see at least 3-5 quick switch scam

 

(jagex could do something about the trade system like add a trade history

 

instead doing weak updates)

 

 

 

They only sell them for so high because some people are willing to pay that much for it. Some: being two or three rich noobs that are careless with their cash.

 

 

 

And, here's the proof that it's within the rules (as sad as it is):

 

 

 

What does 'scam' mean?

 

 

 

To 'scam' means to cheat another player during a trade. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game and will not be tolerated.

 

 

 

Is it a scam to claim an item is rare when it isn't?

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

Is it a scam to switch items at the last second before pressing accept, and hoping the other player won't notice?

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

Is it a scam to ask for lots of money for an item?

 

 

 

It is not considered a scam to ask for large amounts of money for an item, but it is not in the spirit of the game to over price an item.

 

 

 

It is not our intention to set limits on what players trade. It is a player's responsibility to make sure that they are paying a good price for an item.

 

 

 

 

Note the bolded part. Because JaGeX wants this game to remain capalist propaganda (from the Chinese official viewpoint), they are unwilling to set maximum prices. And this is sensible. (I'd still like to see those selling charcoal for 50k to get chewed out.)

[m1cha34l]

Personaly, I think that if you are F2P you will see more rulebreakers BUT there will be more inexperienced F2pers, so they often won't know when they see a rule breaker.

 

 

 

I often find I can't report every rule breaker I see, they always try to protect themselves.

 

 

 

Even if i am convinced that someone is a mocro, can I ever be sure?

 

 

 

People always try to stop themselves being caught. One thing that some macroers do is make names that look like they have used different characters than they realy have, eg 0s instean of O and vv instead of w.

[stratotanker]

People always try to stop themselves being caught. One thing that some macroers do is make names that look like they have used different characters than they realy have, eg 0s instean of O and vv instead of w.

 

This is true, and i've also seen ones with lots of spaces in their names, like double and triple spacings. THAT makes it hard to report them.

[reversal]

They only sell them for so high because some people are willing to pay that much for it. Some: being two or three rich noobs that are careless with their cash.

 

 

 

And, here's the proof that it's within the rules (as sad as it is):

 

 

 

What does 'scam' mean?

 

 

 

To 'scam' means to cheat another player during a trade. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game and will not be tolerated.

 

 

 

Is it a scam to claim an item is rare when it isn't?

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

Is it a scam to switch items at the last second before pressing accept, and hoping the other player won't notice?

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

Is it a scam to ask for lots of money for an item?

 

 

 

It is not considered a scam to ask for large amounts of money for an item, but it is not in the spirit of the game to over price an item.

 

 

 

It is not our intention to set limits on what players trade. It is a player's responsibility to make sure that they are paying a good price for an item.

 

 

 

 

Note the bolded part. Because JaGeX wants this game to remain capalist propaganda (from the Chinese official viewpoint), they are unwilling to set maximum prices. And this is sensible. (I'd still like to see those selling charcoal for 50k to get chewed out.)

 

 

 

 

 

Paying 100k for a polished button a scam?

 

Try debating that with the several people

 

who've bought it and later finding out that

 

it's worthless.

 

 

 

Here' a theory, scammer are poor and lazy.

 

Wants to find a quick way to earn cash.

 

Goes on search engine and finds a site

 

offering quick rich schemes.

 

 

 

Moral of the story? Scammer are not original

 

and most likely went to a site which offers

 

unethical ways of acquiring cash.

 

Probably the same site offering damn autotypers.

 

 

 

Solution, report all such sales of useless items.

[estarayella]

with regards to the whole, selling high thing....

 

 

 

yeah its not reportable to say selling charcoal 500k, often i find that its actually a paired scam

 

 

 

and sometimes, its people who say buying charcoal for 500k, and then they dont ever trade.... is that scamming? its definately deception because they say they are buying and they are not, and they may just be doing it to push the price up.

[estarayella]

out of interest, is there any way to report a site for selling gold and stuff to jagex?

 

 

 

EDIT: i dont mean the sites are selling gold to jagex, i meant i want to let jagex know about these sites..... meh you guys all know what i mean

[Xar_Kun17]

I stand in draynor alot to woodcraft, and it never fails there is always at least one bot cutting the willows there. I always report them, and I hope now there check every macroing report.

[ml417]

There are currently 151306 people playing!

 

 

 

(taken from rs main page)

 

 

 

if autoers were gone it would look more like this:

 

 

 

There are currently 51306 people playing! (10,000 players out of the game at least) and this is a late time so you will find more autoers and less players)

 

 

 

you cant miss autoers they are everywhere

[honeo]

Once every 20 minutes.

[Sy_Accursed]

This poll and its responses makes me ponder upon two things:

 

 

 

1) If you know people who break the rules why don't you report them? and why are you still friends with them?

 

 

 

2) The 6% who said 'Never' do they genuinely know all the rules of the game, because its hard to believe you have never seen a rule being broken. I mean macros and offensive language on thier own are common enough.

 

 

 

I personally never break the rules and any 'friend' of mine who does I hang round with til I can report them, then remove them from my list. I make sure I report everytime i see a rule being broken, hwoever this only happens occasionally due to my tendacy to be in the far flung corners of the world g lleyta

[estarayella]

i report all i see, but its hard when people randomly pm you.... gimme yr pass n i'll put 200 mil in... yeah right!! simply cos you cant report anyone who pm's you, or if you can then i did something wrong, because it keeps telling me the person hadnt spoken :-k

 

 

 

anyways. i also think the delay is too long. when you are in catherby, or seers for yews, or most places in free to play, you want to report, so many people for macroing. but what is it....1 a minute or something? i'm not usually there long enough to report all the rule breakers!!

[Micha499]

I see them VERY often. :evil:

[stratotanker]

Personaly, I'd like to see a few jagex mods walk about in full gilded, then start announcing to the wcers to walk away from the trees for a minute, and any who would not do so would be examined under the finest microscope for macroing.

 

 

 

Ya know, something really visible and public.

 

It'd help morale for all players.

 

 

 

And, there would be so many screenies....hehehe

 

That's what we need. Any Jagex mods, if you are reading, please do something like this. We need highly visual support. Some of us have lost hope....

[estarayella]

stratotanker thats a fantastic idea!

 

 

 

no offence to the mods, but ive never really seen them take an active role in runescape, where i have been playing. i mean i see them online and stuff, but they always just seem to playing the game with the nice shiny crown next to their name. i think a very visible, high profile crackdown in game from mods would be brilliant, and it would raise awareness too

[stratotanker]

Yes...

 

 

 

It would.

 

 

 

But until this happens, i'm continuing with my WC training boycott.

[estarayella]

i just dont have the patience to fight the bots and macroes for the trees, hence my very poor wc skill

[The Observer]

I see rulebreaking almost everywhere. Everywhere I walk, macroers. One time I saw like 15 at the Falador yew tree. You'd swear that it was a clan of them...

[muahahaha]

it used to be the armour trimming scam. now no1 falls for that anymore. Its really kinda hard to get scammed (at least not too often). i think the worst problem is macroing thats why i gave up on wc, at least for now. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: