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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

Hell doesn't exist, even if Heaven does, due to the exact conflict you mentioned. It can't. People who argue, "Oh, he loves everyone, but he DID give you a choice...Soo...." are just stupid. "Repent or Burn" isn't a choice. It's a demand. Jehova's Witnesses believe that Hell is a misinterperetation of text, and that the word originally referred to a hole in the ground, and it's likely that the whole fiery death thing came about because Pagan's cremate their dead...Just scare tactics on the part of early Christians. I know a lot of people like to think Christians are incapable of deception, but they're not. More will deveice you than will tell you the truth...That's why noone believes in God. They can't take an old book's word for it. You could look around you and see evidence of God before you could find it in the Bible or any other text.

 

 

 

Anyways, when you die, assuming there is a God, you'll wait until the end of the world (likely not conscious of the wait) and then you'll either go to Heaven, or you'll stay dead. The reward for being faithful is eternal life, the lack of reward for not believing is just staying dead. Punishment is against everything God is about.

 

 

 

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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

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God doesn't send people to Hell, they send themselves.

 

 

 

You go to Heaven or Hell based on your Actions, in my religion anyway, and yes I am a Christian.

 

 

 

God loves you but if your not willing to love him back, or you turn your back on Him doesn't look to good does it?

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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

-.-

 

 

 

God doesn't send people to Hell, they send themselves.

 

 

 

You go to Heaven or Hell based on your Actions, in my religion anyway, and yes I am a Christian.

 

 

 

God loves you but if your not willing to love him back, or you turn your back on Him doesn't look to good does it?

 

 

 

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I saw some of that thing.

 

 

 

It was Keith something will burn in hell.

 

 

 

Those guys themselves are "[bleep]s", they go to funerals with signs saying "God hates [bleep]s", and a manner of other things, they believe you should only be with one person all your life. However they themselves in preaching their ways, (to the extreme way they do it) are sinners in god's eye, heck well all are.

 

 

 

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and btw ur sig is horrible... you just edited the true terror in the faces of those people who are running away from one of the Twin Towers collapsing...

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I saw some of that thing.

 

 

 

It was Keith something will burn in hell.

 

 

 

Those guys themselves are "[bleep]s", they go to funerals with signs saying "God hates [bleep]s", and a manner of other things, they believe you should only be with one person all your life. However they themselves in preaching their ways, (to the extreme way they do it) are sinners in god's eye, heck well all are.

 

 

 

yupyup

 

 

 

and btw ur sig is horrible... you just edited the true terror in the faces of those people who are running away from one of the Twin Towers collapsing...

 

 

 

I did not edit it myself and the opinons of you on the matter of my sig do not interest me, If an admin finds it offensive, they have powers to remove it.

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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

-.-

 

 

 

God doesn't send people to Hell, they send themselves.

 

 

 

You go to Heaven or Hell based on your Actions, in my religion anyway, and yes I am a Christian.

 

 

 

God loves you but if your not willing to love him back, or you turn your back on Him doesn't look to good does it?

 

 

 

Sorry, that does't make sense. Firstly we all feel compassion for others, if your child turned his back on you and you had the chance to save him from an eternity of being proded with hot pokers then would you? Now times that compassion by infinity (as God is infinitley compassionate) and your conclusion doesn't make sense. Either the definition of God is wrong, or you are wrong. Either way your religions wrong on that point.

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I don't think it helped your cause much by calling a piece of work many follow quite closely a 'piece of trash'. Slandering a religion doesn't help you show people how bad others are.

I really wouldn't call it an era. It was more of a definitive time period during which dinstinctive characteristics were expressed in similar ways.

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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

-.-

 

 

 

God doesn't send people to Hell, they send themselves.

 

 

 

You go to Heaven or Hell based on your Actions, in my religion anyway, and yes I am a Christian.

 

 

 

God loves you but if your not willing to love him back, or you turn your back on Him doesn't look to good does it?

 

 

 

Sorry, that does't make sense. Firstly we all feel compassion for others, if your child turned his back on you and you had the chance to save him from an eternity of being proded with hot pokers then would you? Now times that compassion by infinity (as God is infinitley compassionate) and your conclusion doesn't make sense. Either the definition of God is wrong, or you are wrong. Either way your religions wrong on that point.

 

 

 

How does that not make sense?

 

 

 

Yes God loves all us, no matter what, but you choose to love him and obey him or not.

 

 

 

God doesn't hate homosexuals, its just frowned upon.

 

 

 

And what you said about God is infinitely compassionate is right in one way, but like I said, you choose where you will go if it be to Hell or not, its all by your actions, again God does loves us, but you have to love him and obey his rules.

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hes lilly allens dad (lol i just had to see that, he gets pissed in real life when people call him lilly allens dad, by the way i dont know him or anything but he says it all the time) i watched the louis theroux documentary and this one with keith allen which was much more amusing, in louis all he did was find out what they were about and try to see what everyones views were, keit allen decided to try and challenge them and it was quite amusing

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Living your life according to the Bible (at least the Old Testament) in my opinion is useless. Considering that the stories themselves were passed down orally for at least 500 years, most of the stories probably have errors. To prove this, play a game that kids play. Whisper something in your friend's ear and have him pass it to the next person. Do this all around the room and have the last person stand up and tell everyone what he/she heard. It's amazing to hear the random, off-topic things that they say! :lol: If this happens in a couple of minutes, just think off all the errors that could be in the Bible.

 

 

 

I'm a Catholic, but I don't live my whole life according to the teachings of the Bible. I find it too hard to believe that it's REALLY what God said.

 

 

 

I believe the stories are... well stories. I believe they are ficticious events created in order to try to teach moral ideals, such as "love thy neighbor".

 

 

 

As you can see, I'm more of a liberal on this and many wouldn't know I was Christian until I told them. However, we don't follow EVERYTHING the Bible teaches, such as "Wives, submit to your husbands" and other sexist teachings in the Bible. We are extremely intolerant of those teachings and take steps to ensure that they are not taught.

 

 

 

By the way, there is like a 6+ page topic somewhere about "God hates [bleep]s."

 

 

 

Isn't the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) an organization that teaches hatred against certain groups of people?

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I wonder why all of you athiests are trying to tell Christians they're totally wrong. :? That's all I see when it comes to religion in this forum.

 

 

 

There are only varying degrees of close-mindedness. Everyone is close-minded in some way or another, some don't even realize.

 

 

 

There's no such thing as open-mindedness in my opinion.

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I know you say he loves everyone, but doesn't sending people who go against his word to a fiery eternity in hell equal to hate?

 

 

 

-.-

 

 

 

God doesn't send people to Hell, they send themselves.

 

 

 

You go to Heaven or Hell based on your Actions, in my religion anyway, and yes I am a Christian.

 

 

 

God loves you but if your not willing to love him back, or you turn your back on Him doesn't look to good does it?

 

 

 

Sorry, that does't make sense. Firstly we all feel compassion for others, if your child turned his back on you and you had the chance to save him from an eternity of being proded with hot pokers then would you? Now times that compassion by infinity (as God is infinitley compassionate) and your conclusion doesn't make sense. Either the definition of God is wrong, or you are wrong. Either way your religions wrong on that point.

 

 

 

How does that not make sense?

 

 

 

Yes God loves all us, no matter what, but you choose to love him and obey him or not.

 

 

 

God doesn't hate homosexuals, its just frowned upon.

 

 

 

And what you said about God is infinitely compassionate is right in one way, but like I said, you choose where you will go if it be to Hell or not, its all by your actions, again God does loves us, but you have to love him and obey his rules.

 

 

 

Because infinite love would mean God would save us no matter what we did wrong. He is all powerful, so he can save us from hell even if we don't believe in him. He is choosing not too, therefore choosing to send people to hell. It's just like if your son chose to commit suicide one day, if you had the power to stop him you would because we are compassionate beings. Therefore his infinite compassion would surley stop us from going to hell, no matter what.

 

 

 

And i don't agree with this choice matter either. To beleive in a specific God (AKA the Christian God) it requires you to have an illogical belief. It makes a lot more sense to not beleive something illogical right? So if there was trueley a choice God would not have become the paradox he now is. It would only be fair if there was a fair choice. Basically Gods saying "Yeah, to believe in me you are required to throw empiricism and logic away, and if you don't believe in me you will burn in hell". Hardly a fair choice since those who appriciate logic and empiricism (the tool God apparently gave us to seek truth) are already screwed.

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I've seen it before and i agree with the driver that threw the cup at them when they were protesting at the side of the road...they are freaks, boycotting funerals and such, they have no respect for the families, which was the main thing that bothered me :shame:

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Didn't we already cover this?

 

 

 

The Bible itself condemns people that behave this way. Compare their words and actions to what the Bible actually says before you start bashing Christianity please.

 

 

 

Anyone else notice how there are only 40 of them in a country of about 200 million and they had to withdraw to a secluded town? That'll show you how widespread their warped beliefs are so please quit with the whole "oh yeah, this is what the Bible does to people" anti Christian propaganda and just chill out.

 

 

 

I don't actively go bashing atheists and claiming that since communist countries support atheism and ban religion and they have killed million upon millions of people that most atheists are genocidal murderers... That's the type tactic you guys want to keep trying to pull on Christians. It is getting a little irritating.

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I wonder why all of you athiests are trying to tell Christians they're totally wrong. :? That's all I see when it comes to religion in this forum.

 

And there's no point in that.

 

If atheists are correct, which I personally believe is not the case, then there won't be any harm in believing in Christianity.

 

Anyways, please get it in your mind that not all Christians are crazy people who think that everything in the Bible is true. In fact, most Christians don't.

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Yes there will be harm, because if any other religion is right then you are screwed. Just like they're screwed if you are right.

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Yes there will be harm, because any other religion is right then you are screwed. Just like they're screwed if you are right.

 

But atheism isn't a religion.

 

I'm not sure, as I'm not one, but don't atheists believe that the only thing that happens to you after you die is that your body rots? (Yeah, and bugs eat it)

 

So no matter what religion the person believed in, or if they didn't believe in a religion at all, there would be no difference.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Yes there will be harm, because if any other religion is right then you are screwed. Just like they're screwed if you are right.

 

 

 

No matter what your screwed.

 

 

 

You follow Hinduism, you get screwed by the other religions' god

 

Same goes for all religions.

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I never said Atheism is a religion. Choosing a religion because your scared of the afterlife is pathetic in my opnion. Im also agnostic, not atheist.

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Yes there will be harm, because if any other religion is right then you are screwed. Just like they're screwed if you are right.

 

 

 

So if we're screwed no matter what, then what's the point of arguing?

 

 

 

Not sure if I get you there.

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Sorry, i don't understand what you mean.

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Satenza, in your post you said "...any other religion..." So that doesn't include atheism.

 

My point is that if atheism is correct, there will be no god to screw you.

 

 

 

And I think Serephurus means something like what I mean. If we all get the same result, then why does it matter what happens before the result?

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