richpoepaap Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Wow seems to be a lot of intrest in this thread, big flame war going on. And to whoever it was that ridiculed me for saying that all wars are caused by religion and beliefs in one way or another and then brought up WII saying its not... what?! So a racist nazi who killed millions of jews which correct me if I'm wrong means that they believe in a religion?... You're saying that the Second World War had nothing to do with the holocaust and concentration camps? Oh dear God ~Bbalking He never said that WWII had nothing to do with the holocaust. He said that wasn't the reason why it started. He didn't ridicule you either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron8000 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Wow seems to be a lot of intrest in this thread, big flame war going on. And to whoever it was that ridiculed me for saying that all wars are caused by religion and beliefs in one way or another and then brought up WII saying its not... what?! So a racist nazi who killed millions of jews which correct me if I'm wrong means that they believe in a religion?... You're saying that the Second World War had nothing to do with the holocaust and concentration camps? Oh dear God ~Bbalking That would be me, and no it wasn't (and heres the key word) caused by the anti-semitic policies of Hitler's government. World War two was caused by by Hitler's policy of expansion (or lebensraum - loosely translatable as living space) and the invasion of Poland. The persecution of Jewish people begun as soon as Hitler came into power in 1933 and gradually built - it wasn't even just Jews, Hitler also tried to destroy the Christian church and persecuted every part of society that didnt fit - blacks, gypsies, homosexuals (ironic huh) it was in no way just the Jews - so I stand by my statement that WWII was not caused by religion or religious persecution. Also to warrior and assassin thanks, it gets a bit irritating at times and I do largely agree with you on fundamentalists and literalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitramosma Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Wow seems to be a lot of intrest in this thread, big flame war going on. And to whoever it was that ridiculed me for saying that all wars are caused by religion and beliefs in one way or another and then brought up WII saying its not... what?! So a racist nazi who killed millions of jews which correct me if I'm wrong means that they believe in a religion?... You're saying that the Second World War had nothing to do with the holocaust and concentration camps? Oh dear God ~Bbalking You're also forgetting the being Jewish is not only a religion, but also a nationality. It's perfectly possible that the Nazi's hated Jews as race rather than a religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I find it interesting that Defender is searching for truth in the worst possible way. Your just reading a book instead and throwing away empiricism which is the best possible way to find truth. You're doing that because you know that empiricism won't find you the truth you desire. I'd also like to ask Defender whether he could turn gay now, it's a ridiculous assumption which again shows you that you're not actually looking for truth, but just ways which you can twist (and mildly insult people by saying they are incapable of loving) situations to fit in with the Bible when it's clear it is wrong. One wrong assumption in it leads to the credibility of the Bible being diminshed for you, and if it's wrong then it means it's not Gods word. All i can say to you is good luck trying to twist everything to fit in with it, maybe you will one day join the rest of humanity and move from blind faith in ancient writing to what really matters now. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambassadar Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 (and mildly insult people by saying they are incapable of loving) Actually from what I read it sounded like he was saying love is a choice for everyone and that many people get love and lust confused. How is that insulting? He was applying it to everyone. That is why he made the comment about how many people you hear say "we fell out of love." Every marriage comes to a point where the man and woman get irritated with each other and they just don't want to be around that person. Then they either get divorced(which is what most people choose now) or make the choice to continue loving each other even if they don't want to at the moment(which is what all those old happy couples did that can't live without each other). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 (and mildly insult people by saying they are incapable of loving) Actually from what I read it sounded like he was saying love is a choice for everyone and that many people get love and lust confused. How is that insulting? He was applying it to everyone. That is why he made the comment about how many people you hear say "we fell out of love." I'm pretty sure he said something along the lines of "gay people can't love each other, thats just lust" which is insulting. Firstly because it's not true, and secondly it's a pathetic assumption to again attempt to deny them their lifestyle. When he said how many people do you hear say "we fell out of love" he was again just refering to gay people mistaking lust with love. To bad he didn't account for the 50% statistic of straight people getting divorced. The bottom line is that his assumptions have been disproven and it's just fallen into complete ignorance on his behalf. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Actually, I tell a lie, I do have some problems with religious moderation. 1. Moderation provides cover for fundamentalism, by honouring the principles that respect and tolerance are sacred it prevents criticism of fundamentalism. 2. It makes the same claims about the supernatural, and the same claims to know the absolute truth. Therefore, any religion that says it is the absolute truth cannot exist peacefully with others. 3. Moderation is in a sense, bad theology. I.e. maybe Defender has a point, that he's being a more devout believer, maybe God really does want to punish homosexuals or destroy infidels. Of course, that doesn't mean those views are valid, far from it, but in the context of religious faith maybe there are. Religious moderates tend to be unaware of or deliberately ignoring the nastier aspects of the Bible. I still don't have anything automatically against individual Christians though. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The Bible (well the New Testament) is just an early peice of romanticism, and should only be treated as such. Moderate liberal christians at least understand that a little better, but I agree with you that if you believe in a religion it makes more sense to go all the way with it. Picking and choosing shows you that there is little point to having that religion in the first place. Unfortunatley it's not that big of a jump for Westboro to assume that God does infact hate and want gay people to burn in hell, case and point his destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. If you go the full way it's actually hard to not want to condemn people to burn in hell, afterall thats what the supreme perfect God did. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocobodude0 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The Bible (well the New Testament) is just an early peice of romanticism, and should only be treated as such. Moderate liberal christians at least understand that a little better, but I agree with you that if you believe in a religion it makes more sense to go all the way with it. Picking and choosing shows you that there is little point to having that religion in the first place. Unfortunatley it's not that big of a jump for Westboro to assume that God does infact hate and want gay people to burn in hell, case and point his destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. If you go the full way it's actually hard to not want to condemn people to burn in hell, afterall thats what the supreme perfect God did. I think you may be misinterpreting that story. There's several viewpoints of that story, including that Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed because of "going after strange flesh", meaning homosexual intercourse. That "strange flesh" may not mean homosexuality, it may mean having sex with strangers, or from a desire to have sex with angels. Also, the cities were just sinful altogether, not just sinful in terms of intercourse. That was another example of the Bible's stories getting warped into something totally different than what it is supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkforaster Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Well on Thursday night on the british tv channel Channel 4 a documentary created by Keith something-or-other (sorry can't rack my brain to remember his name) which explored the completely disturbed and extreme discrimination which a highly sadistic Catholic church group practiced in Kansas, USA. The narrator (that Keith guy) began by just seeing what views they had and tried to find out exactly what these extremists had to say, and what they came up with was actually inhumane. The number of signs and theories they had about how god hates all homosexuals, all gays that were brave enough to fight the war in iraq are shameful and should be burnt, that 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina were "blessings" from god and that god hates every "rulebreaker" according to the ridiculous Bible. These people secluded themselves to a town and had around 40ish supporters in that town. They protested their views, but they mainly had an obsession with homosexuals which was pretty extensive. None-the-less their arguments were utter crap and should be lined up and shot for the things they came up with. One woman who claimed that 9/11 and Katrina were blessings from god claimed that anyone who broke god's commandments was bound to an eternity spent in hell, yet the hypocrite has an illegitamate son... hmmm -.- some people. Another fellow idiot claimed that we should not believe everything that we read... yet he follows the bible, a 2000 year old piece of trash, like his life depends on it. Anyways I just wanted to read your thought's about their being people who would devote their lives to such cowardly and sadistic beliefs mainly caused by The Bible. Bbalking Oh yeah and Pro Atheism B) Take out everything that involves ridiculing the bible, otherwise I might as well report you for religious discrimination. The thread, not rl. I'm catholic by the way. u) I can see the hypocritical side in that. But maybe that was what encouraged her to protest like this. She opposed it after she realised it was wrong. People have different views on life. It is thier belief, they have free will. They are complaining about some ways of living. Your as bad as they are. You are against thier own way of living. Hypocritic. Lumbridge and it's past. Read here to find out about it.if you have time to waste then click hereTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkrohn1626 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I have said it many times, and I'll say it again...Religion is the downfall of mankind. Never ceases to amuse me how far off the deep end people go with their religious beliefs. :XD: sad thing is the children...poor things never have a chance being raised in hyper religious atmospheres....sigh. RS name: lord krohn Combat 138slayer specific: 103 whips, 38 dark bows and 250+ dragon boots dropped to date.Dragon drops: 5 Half shields, 21 drag legs, 8 dragon skirts, and 9 drag meds dropped to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I have said it many times, and I'll say it again...Religion is the downfall of mankind. Never ceases to amuse me how far off the deep end people go with their religious beliefs. :XD: sad thing is the children...poor things never have a chance being raised in hyper religious atmospheres....sigh. Dude, Atheism just got proclaimed an official religion. We're all screwed! SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones_Zero Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I just hope people can see the difference between them and a normal Christian. We're not all like that. True. I'm a Christian, not a Catholic, but I went to a Catholic primary school (K-8th grade), and looking back on it now I'm amazed at how they can even call themselves Christians. Being a Christian isn't all about "receiving the Eucharist" and confessing to a priest, it's about living the way that God wants you to. lulz @ rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 B) Take out everything that involves ridiculing the bible, otherwise I might as well report you for religious discrimination. The thread, not rl. I'm catholic by the way. The things you bolded are completley true (except the "trash" went a little far). It does promote sadistic beliefs when followed literally. Also, i'd look up the term "discrimination" before filing that report. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 B) Take out everything that involves ridiculing the bible, otherwise I might as well report you for religious discrimination. The thread, not rl. I'm catholic by the way. Did you just try and use your faith as a justification for impinging on another person's right to criticse and hold opinion? As Satenza said, I don't quite think you're understanding the meaning of the word discrimination, but either way, religion will not be defended for religion's sake. It will stand for free and honest inquiry like any other thing. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 More will decieve you than will tell you the truth...That's why noone believes in God. :lol: You laugh because you're one of the moronic puppets who actually believe unbaptized infants and people who swear burn eternally in fire. You're the one who should be laughed at and mocked, not me. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurinEthir Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Genesis 1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image. Genesis 2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. I have no intention of starting an argument. I just want to give a possible explanation of this. If you disagree, okay, great. I already admitted that the Bible does contradict itself, but that doesn't mean that the whole thing is rubbish. Anyways, on to my explanation. It could be that after those animals were created, they had no specific names. Only after Adam was created were they given names. So the order of events... -Animals are created -Adam is created -Animals get names During the first two events, the animals might not have had names. It's a little confusing, and I didn't word it so well, but I hope you get my point. It could still be a contradiction though. And this will probably be my last post on this thread for a while...I'll stand on the sidelines, neutral, as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded atheists battle just as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded (And over-defensive) fundamentalists. Go have fun making yourself look bad. There's plenty of space on the sidelines if you want to join me. (I'm not saying every person that posts is stubborn, arrogant, etc...But most are...) Cenin pân nîd, istan pân nîd, dan nin ú-cenich, nin ú-istach.Ithil luin eria vi menel caran...Tîn dan delu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Would you shut the hell up with posting this crap about people being arrogant and narrow minded. Barley anyone hasbeen any of those, if you can't take the nature of this type of debate don't enter it. Posting views and saying "This is my last post" is ridiculous, either discuss or don't, and if you don't you have no basis to call anyone arrogant, narrow-minded or stubborn. It just seems like your throwing insults at people for disagreing with each other, so stop it. It's getting annoying. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkrohn1626 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Genesis 1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image. Genesis 2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. I have no intention of starting an argument. I just want to give a possible explanation of this. If you disagree, okay, great. I already admitted that the Bible does contradict itself, but that doesn't mean that the whole thing is rubbish. Anyways, on to my explanation. It could be that after those animals were created, they had no specific names. Only after Adam was created were they given names. So the order of events... -Animals are created -Adam is created -Animals get names During the first two events, the animals might not have had names. It's a little confusing, and I didn't word it so well, but I hope you get my point. It could still be a contradiction though. And this will probably be my last post on this thread for a while...I'll stand on the sidelines, neutral, as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded atheists battle just as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded (And over-defensive) fundamentalists. Go have fun making yourself look bad. There's plenty of space on the sidelines if you want to join me. (I'm not saying every person that posts is stubborn, arrogant, etc...But most are...) To discuss the bible as if it is factual is laughable, I might give you it was LOOSELY based on true events, which after being told time and again, became greatly exaggerated. It is to easy to disprove the bible. Doesn't mean God doesn't exist, it just means the bible, which was written by the Nicene council 321-325 A.D. is false. Let's just start with the myth of the great flood...the easiest thing to disprove: As one examines the biblical version of this story, conflicting elements become clear. The most obvious concerns the numbers of creatures Noah is to bring with him. In Gen. 6:19-20 God tells Noah to bring one pair of "every living thing including birds." But in Gen.7:2-3 God gives a different set of instructions. Here he tells Noah to bring with him seven pairs of ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅcleanÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà RS name: lord krohn Combat 138slayer specific: 103 whips, 38 dark bows and 250+ dragon boots dropped to date.Dragon drops: 5 Half shields, 21 drag legs, 8 dragon skirts, and 9 drag meds dropped to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurinEthir Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Would you shut the hell up with posting this crap about people being arrogant and narrow minded. Barley anyone hasbeen any of those, if you can't take the nature of this type of debate don't enter it. Posting views and saying "This is my last post" is ridiculous, either discuss or don't, and if you don't you have no basis to call anyone arrogant, narrow-minded or stubborn. It just seems like your throwing insults at people for disagreing with each other, so stop it. It's getting annoying. I was originally thinking that you were one of the people that WEREN'T. Maybe I should change my mind. Maybe the people that have already posted haven't been arrogant/stubborn/narrowminded. But come on, Satenza. You've seen religious debates on these forums before. You're going to end up with a bunch of people that know nothing flaming each other. That's basically what I'm talking about - The flames. We haven't gotten much yet, but I'm getting out of here before they come. If you don't think flames are arrogant, then well...That's possible. Just not my opinion. As for stubborn and narrowminded, you're also going to end up with a bunch of people that are screaming "NO WAI IS ANY PART OF THE BIBLE WRONG!", or the opposite. You're going to end up with some people being extremely annoying as they refuse to acknowledge the fact that they're wrong. That's usually what leads to flames, and that leads me back to arrogance. So, Satenza. Like I said, you've seen these topics before. They'regoing to end up in flames, and flames can easily be traced back to arrogance and stubbornness. Cenin pân nîd, istan pân nîd, dan nin ú-cenich, nin ú-istach.Ithil luin eria vi menel caran...Tîn dan delu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The only reason why flames start is because people don't just say "I believe this this and this". They say "You Fail. This this this and blahblahblah. What you just said was so ridicolous. I can't believe you think so illogical". Its the fact that Atheists/Agnostics/Christians just do not give their side, they add alittle salt of insults to each other. Thus, you got Religion Flame War. I personally see more hate comming from the athiest side though. Basically Satenza believes that its "okay" and if you cannot take the heat, get out. So he is more of the problem, not the solution. Feel free to flame me Satenza :) ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Change your mind all you like, but keep your predictions to yourself. We all know how they can turn out that doesn't mean you have to tell us about it by calling people names before anything like that even happens. Then stating opinions and retracting from futher discussion. If you want to "get out of here before they come" then do so without doing the above things. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Genesis 1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image. Genesis 2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. I have no intention of starting an argument. I just want to give a possible explanation of this. If you disagree, okay, great. I already admitted that the Bible does contradict itself, but that doesn't mean that the whole thing is rubbish. Anyways, on to my explanation. It could be that after those animals were created, they had no specific names. Only after Adam was created were they given names. So the order of events... -Animals are created -Adam is created -Animals get names During the first two events, the animals might not have had names. It's a little confusing, and I didn't word it so well, but I hope you get my point. It could still be a contradiction though. And this will probably be my last post on this thread for a while...I'll stand on the sidelines, neutral, as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded atheists battle just as stubborn, arrogant and narrow-minded (And over-defensive) fundamentalists. Go have fun making yourself look bad. There's plenty of space on the sidelines if you want to join me. (I'm not saying every person that posts is stubborn, arrogant, etc...But most are...) You're trying to rationalise something that you know is wrong. Try and explain those bold words please. You don't have to rationalise everything you see in the bible. Religion will not be defended for religion's sake. It will stand for free and honest inquiry like any other thing. Amen to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The only reason why flames start is because people don't just say "I believe this this and this". They say "You Fail. This this this and blahblahblah. What you just said was so ridicolous. I can't believe you think so illogical". Its the fact that Atheists/Agnostics/Christians just do not give their side, they add alittle salt of insults to each other. Thus, you got Religion Flame War. I personally see more hate comming from the athiest side though. Basically Satenza believes that its "okay" and if you cannot take the heat, get out. So he is more of the problem, not the solution. Feel free to flame me Satenza :) ~Defender~ I'd like to see where i flamed anyone for their religious beliefs defender. If you think calling something illogical is a flame then no wonder. Your belief is illogical, there is no escaping that - it's not illogical cause i say so it's illogical by the laws of logic. For example Christianity. 1. Because the Christian God exists the Bible is true. 2. Because the Bible is true the Christian God exists. It's called a cartesian circle and it's illogical because the premise relies on the conclusion and vice versa. Your belief in the Christian God is illogical and therefore isn't just a flame. Debates of this nature are heated, and if you can't take the heat yes you should get out. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambassadar Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Eh, Satenza has been fine the past few pages which is as much of the thread as I remember now. I actually agreed with him about the it is kinda corny to enter a debate but then immediately pull out. Statements like these are the ones I find irritating. I have said it many times, and I'll say it again...Religion is the downfall of mankind. Never ceases to amuse me how far off the deep end people go with their religious beliefs. XD All this hate against Christianity yet silence over fascism and communism which easily dwarf the kill totals of any other political or religious groups during the 20th century. It is quite simple. You hate every form of religion and you don't think twice about insulting anyone that believes in a religion of any sort yet you stay silent on issues like mass non religious government sanctioned genocides. Your message isn't fueled by justice because your message is only brought out on religious topics which means it is merely fueled by your hatred of religion. On a side note I would like to add that your arrogance is pretty annoying. You seem to be craving people saying "wow, Lord Krohn is really smart." Makes me wonder if you have personal issues where you don't get the recognition you feel you deserve in work or home when you have to go on an online forum full of teenagers bragging about your IQ and how you are a Mensa or try to tear down others for their beliefs. Just lighten up some and quit being so angry to the point you want to demonize entire segments of the population because they don't agree with you on certain topics. Religion isn't the ultimate problem with this world. People who let rage and hate build up in them towards others are the problem regardless of their political or religious affiliations. For anyone curious check out this tally of civilians deaths in the 20th century and then look at who the real dangers to humanity are... http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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