Does runescape really need rules?

[ikraz66]

Runescape has 15 rules of conduct. What would happen if suddenly, one day, they all disappeared (well, ok, keep the ones about real world trading/bots/advert blocking).

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my theory: For a short period of time, maybe 3-4 days, there would be chaos and riots (like when 3rd party programs were almost made illegal). Then, for a month or so, there would be more scammers and spammers then there were before. After a while, however, the community would get much much better. Beggars and people who easily fall for scams would get tired of playing and quit or learn to play properly. The scammers themselves would soon realize that the scams don't work, and then either stop scamming or quit. The spammers and people who spam swear words would have fun messing around with the lack of a chat filter for a while and then stop.

 

 

 

The biggest problem in all of runescape is the constant threat that you will get black marks, or be muted or banned. Often, people get reported for talking to their friends, and trying to have a "normal" conversation. Other times, they get banned and have no idea why. Would eliminating the rules help or hurt runescape?

[Mico]

Looks like you don' t know scammers, spammers and noods too whell. They would go around saying " YO MAMA IS A *bleeeeeeeeeeeep*)

 

 

 

No keep the rules, just put cops in the game, player moderators are mostly useless, they need employes that have no crown, act normall so you won' t even know when you are being watched.

 

 

 

And for that they would get tired...

 

They never get tired, they' re too stupid and enjoy in the pain of others too much.

 

 

 

It would hurt, without a doubt.

[Ginger_Warrior]

It seems to me this the stimulus for this debate is how players are wrongly punished for offenses they didn't commit, correct? I'll base my argument based on that.

 

 

 

To say the solution to this problem is to just create an anarchic state is a pretty lazy solution TBH, and it wouldn't actually achieve anything. The fact is, while there are a few cases where people are wrongly punished (myself included!), most of the punishments Jagex deal out are actually fair and needed. Scammers have contempt for rules anyway, they almost think they don't exist. Therefore, removing the rules wouldn't actually change anything - to them it would be removing something that needn't have existed in the first place.

 

 

 

The only place I agree with you here is how immature kids would cut down on the swearing. Half of the mentallity behind swearing is the feeling of rebelling against authority. To remove that authority would only solve half this problem by removing this feeling - all that it would do is give people a green light to swear. Now, I can take a few moderate swears (in an emotionally-charged situation), but I don't want this game to turn into a cesspool of intolerance TBH.

 

 

 

As said before, what's needed is simply more moderation. By that, I don't mean giving more players Moderator crowns. That kind of involvement works on a game with about 100,000 players, not one million plus. Jagex simply need to hire more staff, who's sole purpose in the organisation it is to moderate the game.

[highlanders]

In A LOT of other mmorpgs, there's no rules at all except a few obvious ones, and the games are percetly doing fine. I say why not, if chaos occurs, perfect it makes things entertaining, if a better Runescape comes out of it, perfect.

[Hi9im8Here7]

In A LOT of other mmorpgs, there's no rules at all except a few obvious ones, and the games are percetly doing fine. I say why not, if chaos occurs, perfect it makes things entertaining, if a better Runescape comes out of it, perfect.

 

 

 

It's not gonna happen. Too many kiddies out there that wouldn't be able to handle it. :( Runescape wasn't designed to give the players the choice on how to behave. It's designed to be heavily moderated. Unfortunately all Jagex can afford is pmods whose only real power is to mute rule one offenders.

[Alg]

it would certainly eliminate the wannabemod problem, that's already a win for the idea.

[Mithril_Max]

kinda like WoW (really the only reason people report someone is if you get in a fight with them and they cry to Blizzard) You shoulda seen me at the last day of the midsummer festival lol... drunk dancing dwarf with no shirt screaming about how much he loves the players :XD: yeah we scream obscenities all the time when frustrated or bored no consequences at all... kinda gets annoying after a bit though... (off topic... thats the reason i like to play WoW occasionoly... the wild parties!)

[Ginger_Warrior]

kinda like WoW (really the only reason people report someone is if you get in a fight with them and they cry to Blizzard) You shoulda seen me at the last day of the midsummer festival lol... drunk dancing dwarf with no shirt screaming about how much he loves the players :XD: yeah we scream obscenities all the time when frustrated or bored no consequences at all... kinda gets annoying after a bit though... (off topic... thats the reason i like to play WoW occasionoly... the wild parties!)

 

LOL, what, you mean the way you can actually vaguely relate that game to how you would act in real-life. I dunno about you, but I don't go about spending ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã30,000,000 on a piece of paper...

 

 

 

Unfortunetely though, Jagex have decided that's not the audience they wanna attract. Jagex has decided to take this down the family route, so it makes sense to have safeguards for young children.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Does RuneScape need rules? Short answer: Yes.

 

 

 

Most every society, be it online or not, has a set of rules; even the people that you know that don't have 'any rules' have a set of guidelines which they follow, some less strict than others. Living without any rules, restrictions or limitations would be devastating to any particular society - say for instance someone did something that was looked down upon (in real life, perhaps, someone would come in your front door nude with a six-pack; in RuneScape, someone would begin to spam "looking for gf press 111"). Without any rules, they could simply get away with that kind of behavior. It wouldn't get any better over time either; it would only progress worse.

 

 

 

You have to understand that no life is lived without a set of guidelines or rules. You have to realize that no society is ever formed without rules. Without rules, there is anarchy, and for RuneScape, anarchy is probably the last thing that it needs.

[br34d]

in my opinion, the only rules runescape truly needs are rules 2,3,4,7 and 11. i think alot more people would play without the fear of getting muted if you play properly (sometimes people accidentally let a swear or 2 slip out and then their runescape life suffers for it.)

[meol]

After a while, however, the community would get much much better. Beggars and people who easily fall for scams would get tired of playing and quit or learn to play properly. The scammers themselves would soon realize that the scams don't work, and then either stop scamming or quit. The spammers and people who spam swear words would have fun messing around with the lack of a chat filter for a while and then stop.

 

 

 

You are saying that scammers are encouraged to scam only because it's illegal? If it wasn't punishableeven more peopl would, IMO. Also, the use of swear words wouldn't really decrease, but in fact, raise a lot. I'd think that people need basic restrictions and punishments on that, at least.

 

 

 

Even so, I'd agree with Jagex being softer on the advertising part, with my not being to say "check runehq's/tip.it's guides" without fearing a report.

[chase_cool7]

Does RuneScape need rules? Short answer: Yes.

 

 

 

Most every society, be it online or not, has a set of rules; even the people that you know that don't have 'any rules' have a set of guidelines which they follow, some less strict than others. Living without any rules, restrictions or limitations would be devastating to any particular society - say for instance someone did something that was looked down upon (in real life, perhaps, someone would come in your front door nude with a six-pack; in RuneScape, someone would begin to spam "looking for gf press 111"). Without any rules, they could simply get away with that kind of behavior. It wouldn't get any better over time either; it would only progress worse.

 

 

 

You have to understand that no life is lived without a set of guidelines or rules. You have to realize that no society is ever formed without rules. Without rules, there is anarchy, and for RuneScape, anarchy is probably the last thing that it needs.

 

 

 

You mean like they do now?

 

I would actually like a runescape without rules just limit the number of sentences you can type so often to stop spamming, And they could even have some kids worlds to protect young ones that cant handle "chaos"

[One Too Far]

Looks like you don' t know scammers, spammers and noods too whell. They would go around saying " YO MAMA IS A *bleeeeeeeeeeeep*)

 

 

 

No keep the rules, just put cops in the game, player moderators are mostly useless, they need employes that have no crown, act normall so you won' t even know when you are being watched.

 

 

 

And for that they would get tired...

 

They never get tired, they' re too stupid and enjoy in the pain of others too much.

 

 

 

It would hurt, without a doubt.

 

 

 

Like he/she said it would probaly only be for a few weeks, its that its illegal that makes it funny for them... After a few weeks of it not being against the rules it wont be fun for them...

[highlanders]

Does RuneScape need rules? Short answer: Yes.

 

 

 

Most every society, be it online or not, has a set of rules; even the people that you know that don't have 'any rules' have a set of guidelines which they follow, some less strict than others. Living without any rules, restrictions or limitations would be devastating to any particular society - say for instance someone did something that was looked down upon (in real life, perhaps, someone would come in your front door nude with a six-pack; in RuneScape, someone would begin to spam "looking for gf press 111"). Without any rules, they could simply get away with that kind of behavior. It wouldn't get any better over time either; it would only progress worse.

 

 

 

You have to understand that no life is lived without a set of guidelines or rules. You have to realize that no society is ever formed without rules. Without rules, there is anarchy, and for RuneScape, anarchy is probably the last thing that it needs.

 

That's probably true for real life societies but not online ones.

 

 

 

Don't worry, humans are very strong, swear words are not going to hurt anyone.

 

 

 

You know, this reminds me of that 1-2 years old Johnny Depp movie, The Libertine, you had to be 13 yrs old to see it in theaters, but it was a really dirty movie, but nothing explicit, so it got away with a 13 yrs old rating. So you could be a 13 yrs old fratboy, and hear sex moanings in a big screen theater, lovely isn't? Now in the entrance, they didn't check people's ID cards, they usually don't for 13 yrs old ratings, so you could probably get away with being a tall 11-12 years old and see the movie anyway.

 

So let's see, this is a lot like Runescape, nobodys checking if you're truly 13, or even enforcing that law, and you can have access to this lovely Runescape game with it's heartwarming community. A few more swearwords isn't going to hurt anybody, a lot less than sex moanings don't you think? Maybe block the worse swearwords, and make a few rules. It's really gone ridiculous when saying "tip.it" gets yourself banned. At the point where it is now, the frivolous rules are just there to rob us of our liberties instead of doing any good.

[rpm12345]

runescape has a few million people playing and at those high numbers, you cant blame them for such strict rules.

[Issac_Amisov]

kinda like WoW (really the only reason people report someone is if you get in a fight with them and they cry to Blizzard) You shoulda seen me at the last day of the midsummer festival lol... drunk dancing dwarf with no shirt screaming about how much he loves the players :XD: yeah we scream obscenities all the time when frustrated or bored no consequences at all... kinda gets annoying after a bit though... (off topic... thats the reason i like to play WoW occasionoly... the wild parties!)

 

LOL, what, you mean the way you can actually vaguely relate that game to how you would act in real-life. I dunno about you, but I don't go about spending ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã30,000,000 on a piece of paper...

 

 

 

Unfortunetely though, Jagex have decided that's not the audience they wanna attract. Jagex has decided to take this down the family route, so it makes sense to have safeguards for young children.

I dont understand why jagex would be directing the age level of new players to be young children. I mean you should be at least 13 to play... >_> Otherwise your just to damn immature.

[ikraz66]

kinda like WoW (really the only reason people report someone is if you get in a fight with them and they cry to Blizzard) You shoulda seen me at the last day of the midsummer festival lol... drunk dancing dwarf with no shirt screaming about how much he loves the players :XD: yeah we scream obscenities all the time when frustrated or bored no consequences at all... kinda gets annoying after a bit though... (off topic... thats the reason i like to play WoW occasionoly... the wild parties!)

 

LOL, what, you mean the way you can actually vaguely relate that game to how you would act in real-life. I dunno about you, but I don't go about spending ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã30,000,000 on a piece of paper...

 

 

 

Unfortunetely though, Jagex have decided that's not the audience they wanna attract. Jagex has decided to take this down the family route, so it makes sense to have safeguards for young children.

I dont understand why jagex would be directing the age level of new players to be young children. I mean you should be at least 13 to play... >_> Otherwise your just to damn immature.

Not to mention, it's not the kids with the money, its the teenagers and adults. Jagex would probably get more members if they directed the game toward an older audience anyway.

[darkforaster]

Hurt.

 

 

 

If you haven't noticed, if all the rules were taken away, everyone would quit.

 

 

 

The good players.

 

The scammers and autoers.

 

The bad players.

 

 

 

That's pretty much the entire runescape population gone.

 

 

 

If you say that the good players would come back in curiousity. Would the mess not just start all over again as the bad players and scammers return in curiousity as well?

 

 

 

It completely destroys runescape with no rules. Rules are needed.

 

 

 

How would you like there being no laws in rl?

 

 

 

shops would have everything stolen from them. People would be raped or mugged everyday. Murder happens much more often. And millions more people smoking drugs. To put simply, chaos.

 

 

 

Something that I'd rather not have in rs thank you very much.

[mrmyk]

by any chance would you choose a state of anarchy over democracy -.-

[Einif]

Hurt.

 

 

 

If you haven't noticed, if all the rules were taken away, everyone would quit.

 

 

 

The good players.

 

The scammers and autoers.

 

The bad players.

 

 

 

That's pretty much the entire runescape population gone.

 

 

 

If you say that the good players would come back in curiousity. Would the mess not just start all over again as the bad players and scammers return in curiousity as well?

 

 

 

It completely destroys runescape with no rules. Rules are needed.

 

 

 

How would you like there being no laws in rl?

 

 

 

shops would have everything stolen from them. People would be raped or mugged everyday. Murder happens much more often. And millions more people smoking drugs. To put simply, chaos.

 

 

 

Something that I'd rather not have in rs thank you very much.

 

 

 

lol Are you comparing runescape to murder, rape, and drugs? I personally could care less if there were rules on runescape or not, as long as you couldn't be attacked if you were outside the wilderness. True, there'd be more scammers, but don't we pretty much know all the possible scams? You could just turn off your chat if the "bad words" were getting on your nerves. Workarounds! \

[The Observer]

RuneScape without rules would be chaotic. Parents will remove their children from the game because of the lack of rules. Which means very little money for JAGeX. JAGeX will slowly fall..

 

 

 

Plus, people would just keep saying profanity and the few good players will just get sick of it and quit.

 

 

 

Also, people will be scamming everyone with no consequences.

 

 

 

I feel it will hurt RuneScape severely..

[Dystopia]

Not to mention, it's not the kids with the money, its the teenagers and adults.

 

 

 

Its the kid's parents with the money mostly.

 

 

 

I would love there to be no rules, but the sad fact is for Jagex to pull in the amount they are at the moment they will continue having rules. It allows people to have a sense of security, and let's face it, as much as it hurts to admit it, runescape is now heavily a kids game, one 17 year old playing for several years with amazing stats isn't all that different to five or so 10 year olds getting their folks to pay for a few months. If runescape is considered safe to parents, they will more likely accept their kids wasting their lives on it, and keeping them from under their feet.

[sithlord_man]

We could but the Almost the entire population of RS would break the rules like no tomorrow and the scammer population would rise out of control...You could call a civil war somewhat... its a day i would never want to see...

[foodmanfood1]

if you take out the rules, there will be comeplete anarchy for a period from 1 month to a year or so, but then after that people will learn to adapt, it wont help stop scammers or anything like that it will probably make people meaner to eachother than they were before, but the people that learned to deal with it will be fine. I hope :ohnoes:

[HellsBells]

"Can you sell me those Ranarr seeds, Mother(bleeep).

 

 

 

"Hyt you sons of (bleeep)s!"

 

 

 

Or in a clan war.

 

 

 

"DIE MOTHERF(bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep)RS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

What a jolly time!