As we know the current highscores ranks you by total level and then by xp in that skill when players have the same level which seems fair to most but some players are left out in this and acquire much lower ranks than they deserve.

 

 

 

Players with high xp but low totals:

 

 

 

1. Some players choose only to train certain skills such as pures and skillers which means they can have very high amounts of xp but extremely low totals.

 

2. F2Pers. Although i will talk about these more later these players seem to always have a lower rank than they deserve due to the fact that they can't train several skills.

 

 

 

F2P players:

 

 

 

As i mentioned before F2P players cannot train several skills meaning it is very hard to progress up the highscores as the maximum total level is much harder to reach and also it is much lower. F2P has many more players than members does so it wouldn't be a problem to create a highscores for them.

 

 

 

Points against:

 

 

 

1. The game is there for players to train every skill and if players choose not to then it is their own fault that they are lowly ranked.

 

2. F2P players choose not to become members and if they wish to be higher in the highscores they can pay the money and then train more skills for a high rank and level.

I totally support this. Skillers/pures and F2P will benefit from this. What is great is that the amount of time Jagex has to spend in creating such a hiscore table is very minimal. At it crude form, the hiscores are basically an excel spreadsheet. If I had the entire hiscores on a speadsheet I could rearrange players by total xp with a click of a button.

 

 

 

Maybe there should be like top 250,000 F2P on the free play hiscores, top 1mil players in xp hiscores and top 1mil players on total level hiscores.

 

 

 

It is not really a game update...which will make all of anti-f2pers happy.

 

It helps those who have lots of xp and low total levels.

 

It keeps the existing scores the way it is.

 

 

 

Support :D

What about all the people who used to be members but arn't any more. They could have gained exp in members only skills. Would these people be listed in the f2p high scores now they are no longer members?

What about all the people who used to be members but arn't any more. They could have gained exp in members only skills. Would these people be listed in the f2p high scores now they are no longer members?

 

 

 

You have to remember this is a debate not a suggestion for the game ;)

 

 

 

I would say they would be in the members highscores as they had been a member once and had trained p2p skills.

I think it could work but then could be a pain for jagex like theyre moving to p2p...means they have to transfer all the data across but i love the exp high score idea tho

I'm not sure it's fair,since you could just get 200m fletch/cook xp.

I don't see why f2p should get their own high scores, its not the sort of thing that should be top of jagex's list of things to update. :?

 

 

 

As far as debating it, i dont think members and f2p should be divided because we're both training the same skills, even though f2p uses slower means of levelling that doesn't mean they deserve some kind of recognition over what any member gets at 99. They can feel a sense of pride that they got 99 slower but its the same level in the end.

I don't see why f2p should get their own high scores, its not the sort of thing that should be top of jagex's list of things to update. :?

 

 

 

As far as debating it, i dont think members and f2p should be divided because we're both training the same skills, even though f2p uses slower means of levelling that doesn't mean they deserve some kind of recognition over what any member gets at 99. They can feel a sense of pride that they got 99 slower but its the same level in the end.

 

 

 

er...we're not training the same skills 100% as members have access to many more skills meaning F2Pers get left at the bottom of the skill table without any real recognition

Firemaking and woodcutting are just as easy on f2p and a main reason of becoming a member is for better training of skills. F2p are free and jagex should work on updates for people who pay them :P

I know some members will get mad if f2p get's a highscore simply because they would not get anything out of it themselves, personally I like the idea but only because I myself am non member.

 

 

 

As for being able to sort highscores by both exp and total, I think that would be a pretty good addition to highscores.

One more tab that ranks total experience would be enough. To differentiate between F2P and P2P is quite pointless imo.

 

 

 

I made it into the top 20k in range in F2P, and had no desire whatsoever to know how I ranked against other F2P players ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ to do so seems to be making statistics just for the sake of it.

being 100% f2p i'd love to have a f2p only highscore list...the problem only being that once you do decide to go member, theres no going back to the f2p highscore list. i'd love being able to see how i rank up against the rest of the 100% f2p population

i dont agree with f2p highscores but i do agree with total exp highscores cause many people get high total exp at a low total level cause they are skillers and i dont think its fair that someone with a 22m exp account is ranked above someone with a 222m exp account...just add option to see how you rank in total exp cause people can have 100 or more totals on me but have less total exp and same with people 100 or more less that have way more total exp it would be fun to know how we are ranked in total exp.

I, being a p2p, would hate to have it like that. I'm currently rated (in the overall) higher than most of my friends, mostly because I try to be an all-round character, but if it was sorted down by exp, I'd surely be in a much worse position than someone that has a 99 skill but a 1000 total level.

As far as an exp high score board I don't really see any reason why it shouldn't exist.

 

 

 

A f2p board would only encourage f2pers to stay f2p and would be negative for jagex in relation to their subscriptions. Personally I think it would be interesting, I spent a fair amount of time f2p and it is a lot harder to level most skills in f2p and it would separate f2pers efforts from those of the members. Though as pleasant as it would be to have it I can't see it eventuating.

There would be quite a lot of problems. For example, former members, banned accounts, and macros.

 

 

 

Although I very much like the idea.

There would be quite a lot of problems. For example, former members, banned accounts, and macros.

 

 

 

Although I very much like the idea.

 

 

 

Former members would be on the old highscores as they had trained P2P skills and well..if you ever paid for membership for an account to Jagex then that account is on the P2P highscores.

 

Banned accounts don't appear on the highscores...where's the problem in that? :P

 

Macros...well Jagex is trying to get rid of them and that's that. They don't cause that much of a problem on the highscores though?

I don't see why f2p should get their own high scores, its not the sort of thing that should be top of jagex's list of things to update. :?

 

 

 

As far as debating it, i dont think members and f2p should be divided because we're both training the same skills, even though f2p uses slower means of levelling that doesn't mean they deserve some kind of recognition over what any member gets at 99. They can feel a sense of pride that they got 99 slower but its the same level in the end.

 

 

 

OK, for your first point, it would benefit members too. Elitist P2P fools keep complaining about how F2P autos keep clogging up their high scores, cheating themselves out of their precious ranks. This would prevent them from saying that. They would have autoer and "F2P scum" no where near their precious ranks. A good compromise leaves everyone angry, so, looks like a good compromise.

 

 

 

Aside, from your atrocious spelling mistakes, punctuation errors, conjunction errors and capitalization errors, there is a slight point. Free players use some skills in common with P2P players, but, in P2P, the skills are fundamentally the same, but expanded. The P2P only skills are not found in the free version. In the end, once you have the 99 skill, it is not the goal that matters most, it is the journey to it. If you could just have the 99 skill with a snap of your fingers, it would be fun to play around with, but there is no sense of accomplishment. So, even though F2Pers and P2Pers have separate roads to go on, the F2P road is more fulfilling. It is like playing the easy and hard mode of a game. The hard mode may be harder, but you have overcome greater obstacles than you would in the easy mode.

 

 

 

There would be quite a lot of problems. For example, former members, banned accounts, and macros.

 

 

 

Although I very much like the idea.

 

Permanently banned accounts would not be in the high scores period, if the person was banned for a time in P2P, they would be in the P2P high scores, and vice versa.

 

 

 

Macros who were accused of macroing would be removed from the high scores all together.

 

 

 

Former members would stay in the P2P section. There wouldn't be a category for P2P skills in the F2P section. The high scores are like a one way road, from F2P to P2P, you can go ahead to P2P but, cannot turn back.

100% Support

 

 

 

We need to recognize the guys with 200M xp and a low total level :)

 

 

 

100% support!

 

 

 

Also F2p works very hard and can't train alot of skills.

 

 

 

100% support :)

I would definitely love to see how I stack up in total experience. And to see where I rank among free players would be fun as well. I can't see the F2P only one happening, but I would still like to.

 

 

 

So, in summary, I would love to see both, though I know the F2P one won't happen any time soon.

The exp skill totals sounds good. The f2p... No, thats kinda pointless. JagEx wants to you pay, so they are not going to do it.

1. It's JAGeX if you want to type it in the good way.

 

 

 

2. I'm in favour of F2P highscores, but JAGeX should make clear to the users that if you ever get members (and even don't use it) you will be listed in the P2P highscores.

 

 

 

3. It's a good idea, but I don't think it will be done. JAGeX wants to keep F2P a demo, and if you can get high ranks there too (with seperate highscores) they won't be tempted to get P2P.

I would love to see an F2P Highscores table especially because I would love to be compared with other F2Ps and not other P2Ps because they would always win due to the fact that they can train various other skills.

 

 

 

I would like an EXP Table too because I would be in front of all of those P2Ps who have like 3M total EXP at like 1062 total. :twisted:

 

 

 

Support. :D

I support the idea of ranking by overall exp.

 

 

 

Yes, there are arguements for and against, but for all the coding that's required, Jagex should do it anyway. No matter what they do, people will complain anyway. Might as well provide us with another method of viewing and discussing overall ability.

 

 

 

I've always been curious where I'd stand in overall exp.

 

 

 

The only danger I see is that people would suddenly concentrate on high exp skills such as cooking, fletching, firemaking etc...

the point is to increase membership :) not to promote the free version..