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The Earth isn't as warm as we thought

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Something people need to realize is that it's happening, and it's going to start happening faster. The average temperature may have only made a minor change in the past decade but that minor change is melting the ice caps. The more they melt, the faster the temperature goes up. The faster the temperature goes up, the faster the ice caps melt. It's a never ending circle. Sooner or later, the temperature will have changed the places where major crops can grow and that will start screwing with the economy of a lot of countries throughout the world. The only way we can delay this whole thing is buy changing the way we go about our everyday life.

 

 

 

Another thing that should be pointed out is that people don't need to completely alter their way of lifestyle to help out. You drive an SUV and don't want to switch to a car? Ok. Just start using fluorescent bulbs in your home and crack down on recycling. It's not an all or nothing situation. Ever little thing counts.

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Yes, they span 100s of years, but the temperature has to increase somehow, doesn't it? We don't have 200 years passing and then BAM it's 10 degrees hotter. It has to happen gradually during the course of those 200 years.

 

 

 

Hope I made sense, I'm kinda tired since I'm trying to do an essay. . . So I don't have time to look up more concrete facts atm.

 

 

 

Well, good luck with that essay, I'm studying for exams atm, so I'm not really into discussing too much either.

 

But, this graph shows that every +-100,000 years an ice age occurs, which is what we all know.

 

 

 

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If you look at the decline and increase of the temperatures, you see thatit does not happen in 200 years, or even 2000. It happens over several milennia, which means that an increase of several degrees in a few years time is absolutely not just because of an approaching natural increase of our temperature. Something else is behind it, and the graph clearly indicates that the CO2 levels could be the cause of this.

 

What's even more controversial is that the steep increase of the temperature should be finished by now. The cycle should start over again, according to the previous cycles, we should have just passed the height of the temperature and it should start to decline again. But, it most definitely does not.

 

 

 

Many researches also prove the increase of temperature to be caused by CO2 increase to be true, and in my short life I've already seen more storms and climate oddities (30̢̮â¬Å¡ÃâðC and thunderstorms every week in Belgium are not common) the last 5 years than in the 16 years before that. Europe is one of the regions in the world least vulnerable for the climate changes, and still there are severe problems that even we, rich and developed Europeans, can't control anymore. Giant forest fires, flooded cities, droughts, too much or too few rainfall... You name it. Then there are other parts of our world where mud flows, hurricanes, monsoon trouble (too much or none), tropical diseases spreading north, earthquakes etc are problems even more serious, but they luckily do not occur in Europe. I do believe that they are somehow caused by a change of our climate, because I don't believe in a vengeful God ;)

 

 

 

Perhaps it's a coincidence, but I really doubt it. I'm a bit biased, because my father works for an environmental department of the government that does research to the cause of these problems, but I'm confident that they are in fact right. I really do not see another explanation as to why all these extreme environmental changes occur.

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Nation average tempatures have risen 2 degrees in the last 10 years!!! z0mg

 

 

 

Knew it. Earth cools and heats up naturally, but we should still be eco-friendly of course. C02 lvls are rapidly growning and the evioment's getting [bleep] up...

 

I think we should lay off with the Global Warming, and get into the Global Cleaning.

 

 

 

 

 

OH EM GEE!!!!111

 

 

 

2 degrees in ten years!!! OH NOES :ohnoes: we gonna teh die.

 

 

 

Actually global warming is crap. It could stand getiing warmer, my mom keeps our house too cold <.<

 

 

 

So if its 98 degrees in teh southeast, then it would rise to 100 degrees by 2017! wow thats scary i guess we too lazy to adapt ::' i know i am

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my grandpa said he saw a show that said, despite the ice melting over the ocean near Antarctica, the ice is increasing on the land part of it. i found that interesting. :-k

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Go watch "An Inconvenient Truth."

 

 

 

no al gores gay. And i dont like wasting my time *turns on the simpsons*

 

 

 

And who cares about global warming anyways? Penguins will adapt. Air conditioning ftw!!!

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Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

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Warming or not, it's still generally a good idea to help the environment. Plus there's good money to be made in those fields. Investors are starting to look into that sort of thing more and more. So it's a win either way :D

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Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

 

But that's the thing, people need some kind of reason to really help out the planet. A reason that benefits them, they're family, and they're lifestyle. The severity of the eco-situation correlates precisely to everyone's willingness to give up any part of their lifestyle for the sake of the environment. If man-made Global Warming is 100% proven, that's when you're going to see the change in people's attitudes, and not a second before then.

 

 

 

And everyone, let's be honest. The severity of the situation greatly effects how much everyone here helps the earth, no matter how eco-friendly someone is, no matter how much of a treehugger you think you are. If scientists proved that we're all going to die in the next ten years if we don't lower CO2 emissions, then we'd have people actually doing something- even the most eco-friendly people would be driven to do even more than they've been doing in the past. But until then, people are selfish, and everyone has their limits on how much of their lifestyle they're willing to give up for the sake of a big rock.

 

 

 

Me, I'm the same. Sure, I'll recycle, but I'm not going to change my lifestyle if there's no definite proof [don't act like you know] that unless I change my ways and give up a few things it's going to hurt me. It's just how my ego works; sorry if I'm not a treehugger, but I like my lifestyle, and I see no reason to change it.

 

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

[-_- and no, my current lifestyle doesn't damage the environment all that much anyways. I recycle, I rarely drive (hate it), don't litter, etc.]

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Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

 

But that's the thing, people need some kind of reason to really help out the planet. A reason that benefits them, they're family, and they're lifestyle. The severity of the eco-situation correlates precisely to everyone's willingness to give up any part of their lifestyle for the sake of the environment. If man-made Global Warming is 100% proven, that's when you're going to see the change in people's attitudes, and not a second before then.

 

 

 

And everyone, let's be honest. The severity of the situation greatly effects how much everyone here helps the earth, no matter how eco-friendly someone is, no matter how much of a treehugger you think you are. If scientists proved that we're all going to die in the next ten years if we don't lower CO2 emissions, then we'd have people actually doing something- even the most eco-friendly people would be driven to do even more than they've been doing in the past. But until then, people are selfish, and everyone has their limits on how much of their lifestyle they're willing to give up for the sake of a big rock.

 

 

 

Me, I'm the same. Sure, I'll recycle, but I'm not going to change my lifestyle if there's no definite proof [don't act like you know] that unless I change my ways and give up a few things it's going to hurt me. It's just how my ego works; sorry if I'm not a treehugger, but I like my lifestyle, and I see no reason to change it.

 

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

[-_- and no, my current lifestyle doesn't damage the environment all that much anyways. I recycle, I rarely drive (hate it), don't litter, etc.]

 

 

 

I dont litter unless i through gum outta window. im not old enough to drive and my family recycles. global warming is still crap though.

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Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

 

But that's the thing, people need some kind of reason to really help out the planet. A reason that benefits them, they're family, and they're lifestyle. The severity of the eco-situation correlates precisely to everyone's willingness to give up any part of their lifestyle for the sake of the environment. If man-made Global Warming is 100% proven, that's when you're going to see the change in people's attitudes, and not a second before then.

 

 

 

And everyone, let's be honest. The severity of the situation greatly effects how much everyone here helps the earth, no matter how eco-friendly someone is, no matter how much of a treehugger you think you are. If scientists proved that we're all going to die in the next ten years if we don't lower CO2 emissions, then we'd have people actually doing something- even the most eco-friendly people would be driven to do even more than they've been doing in the past. But until then, people are selfish, and everyone has their limits on how much of their lifestyle they're willing to give up for the sake of a big rock.

 

 

 

Me, I'm the same. Sure, I'll recycle, but I'm not going to change my lifestyle if there's no definite proof [don't act like you know] that unless I change my ways and give up a few things it's going to hurt me. It's just how my ego works; sorry if I'm not a treehugger, but I like my lifestyle, and I see no reason to change it.

 

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

[-_- and no, my current lifestyle doesn't damage the environment all that much anyways. I recycle, I rarely drive (hate it), don't litter, etc.]

 

 

 

I dont litter unless i through gum outta window. im not old enough to drive and my family recycles. global warming is still crap though.

 

 

 

Why do you think it's crap?

 

 

 

I'm not understanding the psychology of rejecting the notion that the earth is warming and we're to blame. What's the deal? Ego? Don't want to chage your lifestyle? Or do you genuinely want to get the science right?What is it?

 

 

 

There's a reason besides global warming to clean up our act. It's simple. We're going to run out of non-renewables one day. Better to inject money into clean energy sources so we're not caught short. So what's the reason to not clean up our act, assuming global warming is false? It's detrimental to us as a species either way. Either stubbornly do nothing and we turn into a sauna or stubbornly do nothing and run out of non-renewables because we didn't think to do everything we could to ensure sustainability. It's almost a non-issue if you look at it this way. It's a sustainability issue either way. Anyone agree?

 

 

 

All this besides the vested interests of oil companies to keep profits rolling in, oil being the biggest industry in the world, from memory.

Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

 

But that's the thing, people need some kind of reason to really help out the planet. A reason that benefits them, they're family, and they're lifestyle. The severity of the eco-situation correlates precisely to everyone's willingness to give up any part of their lifestyle for the sake of the environment. If man-made Global Warming is 100% proven, that's when you're going to see the change in people's attitudes, and not a second before then.

 

 

 

And everyone, let's be honest. The severity of the situation greatly effects how much everyone here helps the earth, no matter how eco-friendly someone is, no matter how much of a treehugger you think you are. If scientists proved that we're all going to die in the next ten years if we don't lower CO2 emissions, then we'd have people actually doing something- even the most eco-friendly people would be driven to do even more than they've been doing in the past. But until then, people are selfish, and everyone has their limits on how much of their lifestyle they're willing to give up for the sake of a big rock.

 

 

 

Me, I'm the same. Sure, I'll recycle, but I'm not going to change my lifestyle if there's no definite proof [don't act like you know] that unless I change my ways and give up a few things it's going to hurt me. It's just how my ego works; sorry if I'm not a treehugger, but I like my lifestyle, and I see no reason to change it.

 

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

[-_- and no, my current lifestyle doesn't damage the environment all that much anyways. I recycle, I rarely drive (hate it), don't litter, etc.]

 

 

 

I dont litter unless i through gum outta window. im not old enough to drive and my family recycles. global warming is still crap though.

 

 

 

Why do you think it's crap?

 

 

 

I'm not understanding the psychology of rejecting the notion that the earth is warming and we're to blame. What's the deal? Ego? Don't want to chage your lifestyle? Or do you genuinely want to get the science right?What is it?

 

 

 

There's a reason besides global warming to clean up our act. It's simple. We're going to run out of non-renewables one day. Better to inject money into clean energy sources so we're not caught short. So what's the reason to not clean up our act, assuming global warming is false? It's detrimental to us as a species either way. Either stubbornly do nothing and we turn into a sauna or stubbornly do nothing and run out of non-renewables because we didn't think to do everything we could to ensure sustainability. It's almost a non-issue if you look at it this way. It's a sustainability issue either way. Anyone agree?

 

 

 

All this besides the vested interests of oil companies to keep profits rolling in, oil being the biggest industry in the world, from memory.

 

 

 

Because i didnt understand a word u said. Im just a highlyopinionated 14 yr old. Also i agree we should switch to a renewable clean energy source cuz oil will run out. (we should drill alaska though) Still dont believe in global warming.

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Omg some giant hunks of ice are decreasing in size, its the end of the world. But no, seriously, people should start being eco-friendly just because its good, not because the earth is slowly warming.

 

But that's the thing, people need some kind of reason to really help out the planet. A reason that benefits them, they're family, and they're lifestyle. The severity of the eco-situation correlates precisely to everyone's willingness to give up any part of their lifestyle for the sake of the environment. If man-made Global Warming is 100% proven, that's when you're going to see the change in people's attitudes, and not a second before then.

 

 

 

And everyone, let's be honest. The severity of the situation greatly effects how much everyone here helps the earth, no matter how eco-friendly someone is, no matter how much of a treehugger you think you are. If scientists proved that we're all going to die in the next ten years if we don't lower CO2 emissions, then we'd have people actually doing something- even the most eco-friendly people would be driven to do even more than they've been doing in the past. But until then, people are selfish, and everyone has their limits on how much of their lifestyle they're willing to give up for the sake of a big rock.

 

 

 

Me, I'm the same. Sure, I'll recycle, but I'm not going to change my lifestyle if there's no definite proof [don't act like you know] that unless I change my ways and give up a few things it's going to hurt me. It's just how my ego works; sorry if I'm not a treehugger, but I like my lifestyle, and I see no reason to change it.

 

 

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

[-_- and no, my current lifestyle doesn't damage the environment all that much anyways. I recycle, I rarely drive (hate it), don't litter, etc.]

 

 

 

I dont litter unless i through gum outta window. im not old enough to drive and my family recycles. global warming is still crap though.

 

 

 

Why do you think it's crap?

 

 

 

I'm not understanding the psychology of rejecting the notion that the earth is warming and we're to blame. What's the deal? Ego? Don't want to chage your lifestyle? Or do you genuinely want to get the science right?What is it?

 

 

 

There's a reason besides global warming to clean up our act. It's simple. We're going to run out of non-renewables one day. Better to inject money into clean energy sources so we're not caught short. So what's the reason to not clean up our act, assuming global warming is false? It's detrimental to us as a species either way. Either stubbornly do nothing and we turn into a sauna or stubbornly do nothing and run out of non-renewables because we didn't think to do everything we could to ensure sustainability. It's almost a non-issue if you look at it this way. It's a sustainability issue either way. Anyone agree?

 

 

 

All this besides the vested interests of oil companies to keep profits rolling in, oil being the biggest industry in the world, from memory.

 

 

 

Because i didnt understand a word u said. Im just a highlyopinionated 14 yr old. Also i agree we should switch to a renewable clean energy source cuz oil will run out. (we should drill alaska though) Still dont believe in global warming.

 

 

 

Opinions don't mean much when you don't have reasons for having them. But, of course, you're entitled to believe whatever you like. If at all possible, a reason beyond you not believeing in global warming would be great.

Because i didnt understand a word u said. Im just a highlyopinionated 14 yr old. Also i agree we should switch to a renewable clean energy source cuz oil will run out. (we should drill alaska though) Still dont believe in global warming.

 

You don't believe in man-made globabl warming, or just global warming? 'Cause if you didn't believe global warming existed... :uhh: .

 

 

 

Though please, as a "highlyopinionated 14yr old", try having an open mind about the issue, m'kay? Especially with the limited scientific knowledge and authority you have :| .

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After reading some of these responses, I can't tell if people are being sarcastic or just stupid.. :?

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Its natural, Its been happening for billions of years...Also the Earth gets slightly closer to the sun every few years. (read that on BBC somewhere...).

 

 

 

I watched this program on the discovery channel (Sky ftw!) Which basicly said that, no matter what we do the earth is going to warm up. And that if you look at ice ages before the earth was getting warmer.....and warmer.....and then the ice age came. The it gets warmer.....and warmer.....and warmer....and here we are today.

 

 

 

I dont really care if you think thats all cabbage but I do my bit to help.

 

 

 

Russia and China arn't really helping are they?

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I said it many times before and I will say it again.

 

 

 

If any of you idiots still believes that man can do JACK to this rock, you are very wrong. We could nuke ourselves into oblivion and nature would flourish. Global Warming is a publicity stunt to make Al Gore look good and produce really crappy Jake Glyllenhal movies.

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I should care but I don't. I wont be here in 130 years and I'm selfish.

 

 

 

But your grand-children will be?

 

 

 

I beleive in global warming, but I don't think it is created by man. I'm sick of seeing graphs that link the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere to the rise in temperatures. So what, prove they're linked. I could show you a graph linking the decrese in pirates and the increase in temperatures. Bring back pirates, it's the answer!

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Aren't there always some underlying truths in politicians lies for example they may be lying about the earth as a whole suddenly getting hotter but maybe when they say that so-and-so country is experiencing its hottest every weather maybe it's just a few towns in it that have? :-k

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After reading some of these responses, I can't tell if people are being sarcastic or just stupid.. :?

 

 

 

I couldn't agree more. And I can't help but feeling that the people that are actually just ignorant and think that those extra few degrees won't kill us will be the first ones to be hit by the consequences of it.

 

Of course we won't fry because it's getting warmer, but perhaps do a little research before judging global warming is nothing bad at all. Climate is very vulnerable to changes, and a few degrees is a huge difference in the world of climatology. An ice age for example implies only a decrease of about 15-20̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâð. That is enough to cause half of our western world to be covered in a thick pack of ice.

 

 

 

But, I'm not going to bother trying to tell anything to people who only have an ear for themselves. I bet that the length of this post (a whooping 8 lines) will scare away those people anyway. Perhaps I should also make a [developmentally delayed]ed picture of a penguin with golden chains, but a dead one. Maybe they'll understand that.

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Its natural, Its been happening for billions of years...Also the Earth gets slightly closer to the sun every few years. (read that on BBC somewhere...).

 

 

 

I watched this program on the discovery channel (Sky ftw!) Which basicly said that, no matter what we do the earth is going to warm up. And that if you look at ice ages before the earth was getting warmer.....and warmer.....and then the ice age came. The it gets warmer.....and warmer.....and warmer....and here we are today.

 

 

 

I dont really care if you think thats all cabbage but I do my bit to help.

 

 

 

Russia and China arn't really helping are they?

 

 

 

Please read my post on page 2. A few degrees per decenium is not what happens naturally. A few degrees per milenium, yes, but in a few decades we'll have temperatures 5̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâð warmer than they ought to be according to the natural way of events. And remember that the cycle of warming up-cooling down is at a point where we should be cooling down. We have just (10,000 years ago) reached a peak in temperature, normally it should go down by now. If you check the red graph on page 2, you can clearly see that the next part of the graph should not rise anymore, because it's over it's top.

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After reading some of these responses, I can't tell if people are being sarcastic or just stupid.. :?

 

I agree. Global warming is happening right in front of us and people are too ignorant to accept it. As much as I never liked Al Gore, I watched his movie with an open mind and everything made sense. If everyone would just heed Gore's and other scientists'/environmentalists' warnings, we could possibly change the way things are going.

If you were lucky enough to see 'The Great Global Warming Swindle', shown on Channel 4 in Great Britain, it listed many valid arguments on why the current fashionable cause of Global Warming is infact false. Although I cannot remember it fully and have no link to back it up, the program dashed 'An Inconvenient Truth' and effectivly stated that Al Gore's statistics were heavily excentuated and even went to the extreme of suggesting some were made up and with the evidence they presented I would definetly believe it. The program then looked at the corrolation between solar flares and the Earth's warming and found that they were far more positive then the scewed statistics Al Gore used. These were experienced and highly qualified scientists suggesting the theories, not some presenter from Channel 4 before you say. The invested interest in the CO2 Global Warming theory is huge, some political parties are riding on this theory and basing their whole policies on this being true thus their continued and relentless promotion of it. Other's livelihood rides on this theory, I even saw a job title just the other day; 'Carbon Saving Expert'. Again, it is in many people's interest to promote this theory as the solid truth. As the journalist Peter Hitchens states, 'Science is based on experimentation and not agreement'. This statement is fitting as many scientists have conducted experiments which conflict with one other suggesting that the CO2 theory is definetly not the given. Then we come to the left-wingers of the world who jump at any chance to 'do good' and jump onto their high horses. The left-wing press love to scare monger and jump at the opportunity to make others feel guilty about their lives. Then, more worringly, we have the left-wing politicians who jump at the chance to erode our civil liberties by introducing such measures as the proposed cameras on bins to snoop on people to check whether they are recycling and new methods of taxation such as the green tax. In conclusion, the Co2 theory is certainly not the given theory in the scientific community and those who dare to challenge are effectivly seen as heretics and are shunned or ridiculed, effectivly being pushed underground along with their compelling arguments. I doubt there is little argument to suggest that the planet is not warming up but there is certainly a lot more research needed to prove a theory either way.

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To be honest Antrune, you are a bit of a toff really aren't you?

Maybe I just realize that Climatic Change exists because I live in a tropical country, whereas most of the people here live in the U.S. or Europe. Here, we feel that hurricanes are getting stronger, we feel there are heavier floods more often during the rainy season, and stronger draughts in the dry season. There have been some big tornadoes in the capital city this year, although some years ago you rarely heard of one every couple of years.

 

 

 

It's not as if we are all going to die in 5 years, but we should really take care of the environment and search for cleaner energy sources.

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I'm personally not convinced either way as to whether humans are to blame or not. Sure CO2 levels are rising but gases such as methene/methane are 3 times worse than carbon dioxide at pollouting and thats produced naturally by most animals when pass wind. I think it stems from human ego that us [humans] are the cause of this increase.

 

 

 

Perhaps, like the dinosours before us, it will soon be time to become extinct and allow other species to flourish?

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