The Earth isn't as warm as we thought

[malo2]

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=61b0590f-c5e6-4772-8cd1-2fefe0905363

 

 

 

Well the hottest year in the past 130 years is actually 1934, not 1998 which is second, and 1921 is third. Politicians have for a while been trying to tell us were going to burn to death because the temperatures are rising, but that is now questionable :-k

[superson]

That's interesting, do they know why it was so hot back then? Just a fluke year or something?

[Lionheart_0]

Carbon Dioxide amounts alway flux. So it is possible to be a fluke year, but I doubt it.

 

 

 

I still don't see why this information should be leaked at all. Even if it means environmentalists are wrong, and that we are not in AS MUCH danger as though, this information will just bring down any hope we have of helping the world.

 

 

 

Personally, I would of kept it under wraps, and just kept telling everyone to keep it green, cause certainly, people are just gonna think "Oh ya, we got longer, I might as well continue polluting for awhile more!"

 

 

 

Just help the world god dammit, stop trying to be right!

[Giordano]

Nation average tempatures have risen 2 degrees in the last 10 years!!! z0mg

 

 

 

Knew it. Earth cools and heats up naturally, but we should still be eco-friendly of course. C02 lvls are rapidly growning and the evioment's getting [bleep]ed up...

 

I think we should lay off with the Global Warming, and get into the Global Cleaning.

[stan18]

but hasn't skin cancer been on the rise? i don't have any stats, but my 8th grade sci teacher taught me that, which has since freaked me out

[malo2]

Nation average tempatures have risen 2 degrees in the last 10 years!!! z0mg

 

 

 

Knew it. Earth cools and heats up naturally, but we should still be eco-friendly of course. C02 lvls are rapidly growning and the evioment's getting [bleep] up...

 

I think we should lay off with the Global Warming, and get into the Global Cleaning.

I don't want to waste money on gas, so solar power ftw :P

[Giordano]

Nation average tempatures have risen 2 degrees in the last 10 years!!! z0mg

 

 

 

Knew it. Earth cools and heats up naturally, but we should still be eco-friendly of course. C02 lvls are rapidly growning and the evioment's getting [bleep] up...

 

I think we should lay off with the Global Warming, and get into the Global Cleaning.

I don't want to waste money on gas, so solar power ftw :P

 

and Global Savings! :D

[llamster]

Global warming, though it may not be as serious as the enviromentalists say, definitely exists, and the Earth is definitely getting warmer due to rising amounts of CO2. There's no point in denying it.

[StrOwez]

Global warming, though it may not be as serious as the enviromentalists say, definitely exists, and the Earth is definitely getting warmer due to rising amounts of CO2. There's no point in denying it.

 

 

 

There is a point. To save some $$$

[Nanosauromo]

 

 

 

 

Yup we are definately heating up.

 

 

 

Go watch "An Inconvenient Truth."

[How2PK]

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=61b0590f-c5e6-4772-8cd1-2fefe0905363

 

 

 

Well the hottest year in the past 130 years is actually 1934, not 1998 which is second, and 1921 is third. Politicians have for a while been trying to tell us were going to burn to death because the temperatures are rising, but that is now questionable :-k

 

 

 

Okay. That's a go. Everybody start consuming the old fashion way again.

[megakiller32]

 

Go watch "An Inconvenient Truth."

 

 

 

I tried, but Al Gore is just so boring. Apart from those few episodes of the Simpsons and Futurama he was in \

[KCHughes]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

[Oy_the_Great]

Damn it, I don't mind people being critical, a little stubborn even, but I hate idiots that don't accept something that is proven to be correct time after time. It's like those few people that still don't think the holocaust was real.

 

Wake up, the Earth IS warming up! A few exception years do NOT mean that what's happening now is normal.

 

 

 

If you look at the average temperature per decenium, you will see that the last decenia are significantly warmer than any other recorded ones before. One single year of exception proves nothing.

 

 

 

Thanks Nanosauromo for the obvious proof. I'd like to add that all glaciers in the Alps have decreased in volume so much that skiing there will soon become impossible. When was the last year that happened? It NEVER did, simply because one hot year does not melt an entire glacier of several thousands of cubic kms. 15 continuous years do.

[Rebdragon]

Go watch "An Inconvenient Truth."

 

 

 

I tried, but Al Gore is just so boring. Apart from those few episodes of the Simpsons and Futurama he was in \

 

Don't forget South Park :wink: .

[underu2000]

To be honest, the gas prices are more likely to keep us away from fossil fuels than the end of the world. :|

[Oy_the_Great]

To be honest, the gas prices are more likely to keep us away from fossil fuels than the end of the world. :|

 

 

 

Hehe, yeah, human nature still barely reacts on things to come, but it sure does react on things that do affect us right now. We're still a lot closer related to animals than we sometimes think. I can see Khang & Kodos laughing at us from space now :P

[Giordano]

To be honest, the gas prices are more likely to keep us away from fossil fuels than the end of the world. :|

 

Which is why if we do follow this everyone wins!

 

-People who do not believe Global Warming don't have anything to win or lose, cept for money on expencive gas prices. Now there isn't gas but cheaper alternative energy sources thus saving a [cabbage]load of money. Win! :

 

-People who do believe in Global Warming wins since humans are finally using eco-friendly energy. WIN! :

[meol]

However, CEO's of big oil companies like Texaco will feel a great diminishing of their profits, and thus are willing to spend a little part of them in propaganda that denies the existence, or the importance of climatic change.

[Nom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

 

 

 

Why has no one heeded this? This is important. YES, the earth is wariming up, but NO we are not causing it. The earth is going through a natural cycle that has repeated since the world began. Why do you think we had 2 ice ages? The earth goes through periods of extreme warmth and extreme cold. We jusyt happen to be in an era where the warmth is rising. And we are not the cause, not one bit. I'm not saying that we don;t have a responsibilty to clean up the earth, but the emissions of Co2 WE put out have absolutely minimal effect on what is happeneing to the earth naturally.

[IGoddessI]

I should care but I don't. I wont be here in 130 years and I'm selfish.

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=61b0590f-c5e6-4772-8cd1-2fefe0905363

 

 

 

Well the hottest year in the past 130 years is actually 1934, not 1998 which is second, and 1921 is third. Politicians have for a while been trying to tell us were going to burn to death because the temperatures are rising, but that is now questionable :-k

 

 

 

 

 

we probably wont see a drastic difference in our lifetime as i think most things will happen gradually, but your kid's kids wont be saying that when the sea level rises 10-20 feet due to glacial meltings

[Oy_the_Great]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

 

 

 

Why has no one heeded this? This is important. YES, the earth is wariming up, but NO we are not causing it. The earth is going through a natural cycle that has repeated since the world began. Why do you think we had 2 ice ages? The earth goes through periods of extreme warmth and extreme cold. We jusyt happen to be in an era where the warmth is rising. And we are not the cause, not one bit. I'm not saying that we don;t have a responsibilty to clean up the earth, but the emissions of Co2 WE put out have absolutely minimal effect on what is happeneing to the earth naturally.

 

 

 

Those graphs span 1,000,000 years. The ice age theory is a given, yes, but it does not explain the increase in temperature of the last 20 years, because the natural increase of temperature spans hundreds of years, not a decade or two.

 

If you're going to prove that the large emissions of CO2 are NOT responsible for the global warming, you're going to have to get some better evidence man. Otherwise I could use that pseudo-science to prove what will happen with the economy in 50 years as well knowing the Kondratieff-cycles.

[Nom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

 

 

 

Why has no one heeded this? This is important. YES, the earth is wariming up, but NO we are not causing it. The earth is going through a natural cycle that has repeated since the world began. Why do you think we had 2 ice ages? The earth goes through periods of extreme warmth and extreme cold. We jusyt happen to be in an era where the warmth is rising. And we are not the cause, not one bit. I'm not saying that we don;t have a responsibilty to clean up the earth, but the emissions of Co2 WE put out have absolutely minimal effect on what is happeneing to the earth naturally.

 

 

 

Those graphs span 1,000,000 years. The ice age theory is a given, yes, but it does not explain the increase in temperature of the last 20 years, because the natural increase of temperature spans hundreds of years, not a decade or two.

 

If you're going to prove that the large emissions of CO2 are NOT responsible for the global warming, you're going to have to get some better evidence man. Otherwise I could use that pseudo-science to prove what will happen with the economy in 50 years as well knowing the Kondratieff-cycles.

 

 

 

Yes, they span 100s of years, but the temperature has to increase somehow, doesn't it? We don't have 200 years passing and then BAM it's 10 degrees hotter. It has to happen gradually during the course of those 200 years.

 

 

 

Hope I made sense, I'm kinda tired since I'm trying to do an essay. . . So I don't have time to look up more concrete facts atm.

[bartoron]

 

 

 

DEY IS STIL COLD SO IT NOT BE RLY HOT.

 

 

 

Anyways, how about instead of refusing to clean up the world because some people believe that Global Warming is a hoax, we clean up the world because we have to? We're running out of oil, and 50 years from now we're going to have pretty much run out. Sunlight, however, isn't going to run out for a few billion years. Let's go with that. Oh yeah, that hydroelectricity stuff seems to be working. Let's go with more of that. Who cares if we're flooding a few beaver dams? Better a few beavers than a few billion people with no electricity.

 

 

 

Here's another idea--build a generator into a car. Solar panels covering the entire roof of the car will power an electric motor, which will move the car. Magnets in the wheel axels which rotate inside of wire coils, creating electricity through electromagnetic induction. This electricity is then stored in a battery, which the electric motor can draw power from in addition to the solar panels.