Homosexuality: Right or Wrong?

[BlueLancer]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

Think your children saw a dolphin in an aquarium. Dolphins are one of the species in which natural homosexuality occurs. Would they be less of an aquarium attraction were they gay? No, it doesn't hurt the business of the aquarium. Why should anybody care, since most of the time it's not even visible.

[Tigra00]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

Think your children saw a dolphin in an aquarium. Dolphins are one of the species in which natural homosexuality occurs. Would they be less of an aquarium attraction were they gay? No, it doesn't hurt the business of the aquarium. Why should anybody care, since most of the time it's not even visible.

 

 

 

Exactly what I was going to say. Well, I wasn't going to use the Dolphin analogy, but yea. :lol:

[guss]

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

Think your children saw a dolphin in an aquarium. Dolphins are one of the species in which natural homosexuality occurs. Would they be less of an aquarium attraction were they gay? No, it doesn't hurt the business of the aquarium. Why should anybody care, since most of the time it's not even visible.

 

 

 

 

 

Wht about sea horses?

[Tigra00]

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

Think your children saw a dolphin in an aquarium. Dolphins are one of the species in which natural homosexuality occurs. Would they be less of an aquarium attraction were they gay? No, it doesn't hurt the business of the aquarium. Why should anybody care, since most of the time it's not even visible.

 

 

 

 

 

Wht about sea horses?

 

 

 

The males have the babies, which is unnatural!

[i_trollz_u]

I'm a christian so I'd have to say homosexuality is wrong but if someone is homosexual I just leave them alone and stay away from them.

[guss]

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

Think your children saw a dolphin in an aquarium. Dolphins are one of the species in which natural homosexuality occurs. Would they be less of an aquarium attraction were they gay? No, it doesn't hurt the business of the aquarium. Why should anybody care, since most of the time it's not even visible.

 

 

 

 

 

Wht about sea horses?

 

 

 

The males have the babies, which is unnatural!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mabe it would be for human, but definitly your not the sea horse typing.

[Korskin]

The "Gay Marriage Issue" is the perfect example of how much control religious people have over the country...Honestly, there isn't a damn politician alive today - as stupid as they are, even - that isn't aware that banning same-sex marriage is unconstitutional and I'd wager that none of them care about gay marriage period to boot. They feign caring so that the religious right will vote for them. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. I mean, maybe some of them do actually think it's wrong, but at the same time, they KNOW it's also unconstitutional to ban it, so the reason why they're for banning it is quite obvious.

 

 

 

Christians should just cut their losses and leave gay people the hell alone. They're NEVER going to win that battle. Eventually, the supreme court is going to rule that it's unconstitutional to ban it because you are denying people the rights that straight people get based on their sexual orientation, such as tax benefits for being a married couple and whatnot. However, like I said...Cut your losses...Concentrate on abortion. That [cabbage] is killing babies, and seriously...There isn't anyone alive who can say that doesn't suck. The only time it should be allowed is when it's a product of rape, and even then...Can't the mother have it and give it up for adoption? I understand the stigma a woman would have with looking at a product from her rapist everyday - I wouldn't want the kid either if I were her, but someone would. But at the end of the day, that's her choice and you have to rely on her making the right one, you can't FORCE her to. This whole aborting babies just 'cause they were an accident [cabbage] is pretty lame, though.

 

Yes, christians should concentrate on abortion. Homosexuality issues compared to abortion seem insignificant. But the topic is "Homosexuality: Right or Wrong?" so I guess we should concentrate on homosexuality on this thread.

 

 

 

I think that if you are a christian you should be against a homosexual lifestyle the same way you should be against a promiscuous sexual lifestyle or anything else that the Bible condemns. Homosexual thoughts/acts are not some kind of unforgivable sin or a reason to look down on someone. It has a tendency to blow out of proportion.

 

 

 

A situation where it gets complicated is when two homosexuals want to marry in church. If I was a priest I wouldn't feel good about marrying them in front of God, when it's pretty clear that marriage according to the Bible is between a man and a woman. It's not very tolerant to force priests to go against their religion.

[RpgGamer]

homosexuality is against my religion (im jewish if you must know) but i couldn't care less if some one is gay or not. who you're "into" shouldn't effect anything but you're own life. there are some really great people that were gay, it just so happens that there were even better people who were straight *shrug*

 

 

 

i really don't mind the company of homosexuals, as long as they don't start hitting on me. cause thats when it gets weird.

[The Dark Lord]

I'm a christian so I'd have to say homosexuality is wrong but if someone is homosexual I just leave them alone and stay away from them.

 

 

 

You'd have to say? Make up your own mind about it.

 

 

 

Christiansectuality is not a choice. He was born Christian and cannot alter his religious orientation.

 

 

 

Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?"

 

 

 

Itz ded rong! It gross an unaturual!

 

 

 

Of course this is a joke.

[Guest]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

The act of homosexuality hurting anyone doesn't matter, when the argument is about the fact that certain people still find the act of homosexuality wrong, if it hurts others or doesn't hurt others. Its irrelevant. We condemn the act, but we don't condemn the people themselves, we still accept them as how they are. As fellow humans its not up to us to condemn them personally (that's God's job) but it doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on why we disagree with the act of homosexuality.

 

 

 

As stated its irrelevant whether or not you can justify to me the act of homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, when either way its still seen in my eyes and others as a immoral act.

[Guest]

I'm a christian so I'd have to say homosexuality is wrong but if someone is homosexual I just leave them alone and stay away from them.

 

 

 

You'd have to say? Make up your own mind about it.

 

 

 

Christiansectuality is not a choice. He was born Christian and cannot alter his religious orientation.

 

 

 

Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?"

 

 

 

Itz ded rong! It gross an unaturual!

 

 

 

Of course this is a joke.

 

 

 

At least Christianity and the vast majority of churches and people who operate and live under this "religion" benefit to society considerably more than homosexuality would ever. In fact I'd say that homosexuality in no way contributes to benefiting society. This can be clearly seen through the fact that the act of homosexuality can't reproduce. It's just purely an act of self-gratification.

 

 

 

And of course, I'm happily taking your joke seriously, just to make a point. :wink:

[yomom1919]

At least Christianity and the vast majority of churches and people who operate and live under this "religion" benefit to society considerably more than homosexuality would ever. In fact I'd say that homosexuality in no way contributes to benefiting society. This can be clearly seen through the fact that the act of homosexuality can't reproduce. It's just purely an act of self-gratification.

 

 

 

And of course, I'm happily taking your joke seriously, just to make a point. :wink:

 

 

 

Christianity is an organization [in the way you are referring to], homosexuality is an uncontrollable mental condition [maybe my wording is incorrect, but I'm not sure what homosexually technically is]. You sir, have no point.

[warri0r45]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

The act of homosexuality hurting anyone doesn't matter, when the argument is about the fact that certain people still find the act of homosexuality wrong, if it hurts others or doesn't hurt others. Its irrelevant. We condemn the act, but we don't condemn the people themselves, we still accept them as how they are. As fellow humans its not up to us to condemn them personally (that's God's job) but it doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on why we disagree with the act of homosexuality.

 

 

 

As stated its irrelevant whether or not you can justify to me the act of homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, when either way its still seen in my eyes and others as a immoral act.

 

 

 

Eels, you are entitled to that view but the non-Christians of the tip it community have a hard time understanding why something is wrong just because the bible says so. Even more so when the act dosen't actually hurt anyone. That's why the argument that homosexuality harms no-one comes up.

[Rebdragon]

Yes, christians should concentrate on abortion. Homosexuality issues compared to abortion seem insignificant. But the topic is "Homosexuality: Right or Wrong?" so I guess we should concentrate on homosexuality on this thread.

 

 

 

I think that if you are a christian you should be against a homosexual lifestyle the same way you should be against a promiscuous sexual lifestyle or anything else that the Bible condemns. Homosexual thoughts/acts are not some kind of unforgivable sin or a reason to look down on someone. It has a tendency to blow out of proportion.

 

 

 

A situation where it gets complicated is when two homosexuals want to marry in church. If I was a priest I wouldn't feel good about marrying them in front of God, when it's pretty clear that marriage according to the Bible is between a man and a woman. It's not very tolerant to force priests to go against their religion.

 

I despise everything about that [anti-homosexual] belief, but for some reason I still had a smile on my face after reading that :-k . Guess it's nice that you stick to your guns without looking like an idiot or being wishywashy about your opinion :P (as is seen far too often on the religious side of debates >_>).

 

 

 

Religious debators, imitate ^ posting style please :-$ .

 

 

 

So ya, I don't agree with your opinion (and nothing I say is going to change your opinion), but I get what you're saying- the Church treats homosexual acts in the same way that they treat sex before marriage- they frown on it, but [most] wouldn't condemn ya to Hell for it ^_^'. Eh, to each his own.

[Guest]

At least Christianity and the vast majority of churches and people who operate and live under this "religion" benefit to society considerably more than homosexuality would ever. In fact I'd say that homosexuality in no way contributes to benefiting society. This can be clearly seen through the fact that the act of homosexuality can't reproduce. It's just purely an act of self-gratification.

 

 

 

And of course, I'm happily taking your joke seriously, just to make a point. :wink:

 

 

 

Christianity is an organization [in the way you are referring to], homosexuality is an uncontrollable mental condition [maybe my wording is incorrect, but I'm not sure what homosexually technically is]. You sir, have no point.

 

 

 

Thanks. Now please go back and re-read the quote I replied to. Then add some thought, and you'll figure out there is a point.

 

 

 

And just for a hint to help you out, I was mainly replying to this line by Serephurus "Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?" " Of course it was a joke by him, but I still was trying to raise my point about people even thinking twice that Homosexuality in anyway could be seen as a benefit to society. And no I was referring to Christianity as a whole. Its the Christians themselves who benefit society, not an organization.

 

 

 

By the way homosexuality is uncontrollable? Yeah right, we all have free will and all are able to make our own decisions in life. Stop trying to make out that homosexuality doesn't involve any pre-made decisions with free-will involved on the behalf of the person committing the act.

[Guest]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

The act of homosexuality hurting anyone doesn't matter, when the argument is about the fact that certain people still find the act of homosexuality wrong, if it hurts others or doesn't hurt others. Its irrelevant. We condemn the act, but we don't condemn the people themselves, we still accept them as how they are. As fellow humans its not up to us to condemn them personally (that's God's job) but it doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on why we disagree with the act of homosexuality.

 

 

 

As stated its irrelevant whether or not you can justify to me the act of homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, when either way its still seen in my eyes and others as a immoral act.

 

 

 

Eels, you are entitled to that view but the non-Christians of the tip it community have a hard time understanding why something is wrong just because the bible says so. Even more so when the act dosen't actually hurt anyone. That's why the argument that homosexuality harms no-one comes up.

 

 

 

Our morals shouldn't change, just because society is more accepting of it. Especially considering that our society is going down hill, with more selfish, self centered people in this world. God doesn't change his views on how we should live, and neither should a Christian judge their morals on societies acceptance of certain acts.

 

 

 

And for the record, prostitution doesn't hurt anyone, should I as a Christian accept that as a Godly way to live, since it doesn't hurt anyone and that society is becoming increasingly accepting of it? In fact Warrior, should I even have morals or standards, I strive to live by, in a society such as ours today? Or should I just live by what society says is right and just hope that its not going to continue to go downhill from here?

[warri0r45]

At least Christianity and the vast majority of churches and people who operate and live under this "religion" benefit to society considerably more than homosexuality would ever. In fact I'd say that homosexuality in no way contributes to benefiting society. This can be clearly seen through the fact that the act of homosexuality can't reproduce. It's just purely an act of self-gratification.

 

 

 

And of course, I'm happily taking your joke seriously, just to make a point. :wink:

 

 

 

Christianity is an organization [in the way you are referring to], homosexuality is an uncontrollable mental condition [maybe my wording is incorrect, but I'm not sure what homosexually technically is]. You sir, have no point.

 

 

 

Thanks. Now please go back and re-read the quote I replied to. Then add some thought, and you'll figure out there is a point.

 

 

 

And just for a hint to help you out, I was mainly replying to this line by Serephurus "Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?" " Of course it was a joke by him, but I still was trying to raise my point about people even thinking twice that Homosexuality in anyway could be seen as a benefit to society. And no I was referring to Christianity as a whole. Its the Christians themselves who benefit society, not an organization.

 

 

 

By the way homosexuality is uncontrollable? Yeah right, we all have free will and all are able to make our own decisions in life. Stop trying to make out that homosexuality doesn't involve any pre-made decisions with free-will involved on the behalf of the person committing the act.

 

 

 

It's an important distinction to make that the sexual orientation one has is not controllable. As I demonstrated in some of the quotes I presented some pages back, It's not a choice yet rather a combination of uncontrollable biological and environmental factors which make one gay. But, of course, acting on this orientation is the choice.

 

 

 

But, one wonders what the point of being dealt an uncontrollable sexual orientation is when acting on it is a sin.

[Rebdragon]

Thanks. Now please go back and re-read the quote I replied to. Then add some thought, and you'll figure out there is a point.

 

 

 

And just for a hint to help you out...

 

No one likes a condescending post Eel. Chill.

 

 

 

I was mainly replying to this line by Serephurus "Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?" " Of course it was a joke by him, but I still was trying to raise my point about people even thinking twice that Homosexuality in anyway could be seen as a benefit to society. And no I was referring to Christianity as a whole. Its the Christians themselves who benefit society, not an organization.

 

We're not saying it's a benefit (no matter how much better fashion is nowadays :P ), we're just wondering why you think it's detrimental. As warri0r said, a lot of us have trouble understanding how something can be considered wrong just because it's written in the Bible. Why else do you think it is harmful to society?

 

 

 

We're talking small scales of course, considering the fact that that's how it is in reality.

 

 

 

By the way homosexuality is uncontrollable? Yeah right, we all have free will and all are able to make our own decisions in life. Stop trying to make out that homosexuality doesn't involve any pre-made decisions with free-will involved on the behalf of the person committing the act.

 

:|

 

 

 

We've gone over this. Give me a sec, I'll be right back with a post that explains it (biologically).

 

 

 

EDIT: [warri0r, hope you don't mind me quoting you :P ]

 

Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

 

 

 

No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

 

 

 

 

 

Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?

 

 

 

No. Even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, sometimes pressured by the influence of family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable.

 

 

 

However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who seek assistance from a mental health professional want to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people may seek psychological help with the coming out process or for strategies to deal with prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same reasons and life issues that bring straight people to mental health professionals.

 

 

http://www.apa.org/topics/orientation.html

 

 

 

Or perhaps it's society who has the misconception of what it is homosexuals feel. Society has an ideal that men like women and vice versa when it's clear that some just grow up being confused. Confused, but by nothing more than those around them espousing views that what they feel is unnatural or somehow a choice, and, one which should always result in heterosexuality.

 

 

 

Anyways, instead of blatantly saying "stop trying to prove me wrong", do you have some counterarguments for the previously posted points that support the fact that ones orientation is set before they are capable of choosing it?

[yomom1919]

Thanks. Now please go back and re-read the quote I replied to. Then add some thought, and you'll figure out there is a point.

 

 

 

And just for a hint to help you out, I was mainly replying to this line by Serephurus "Let's get back to the topic: "Christiansectuality, right or wrong?" " Of course it was a joke by him, but I still was trying to raise my point about people even thinking twice that Homosexuality in anyway could be seen as a benefit to society. And no I was referring to Christianity as a whole. Its the Christians themselves who benefit society, not an organization.

 

 

 

By the way homosexuality is uncontrollable? Yeah right, we all have free will and all are able to make our own decisions in life. Stop trying to make out that homosexuality doesn't involve any pre-made decisions with free-will involved on the behalf of the person committing the act.

 

 

 

Your point is that people who are born Christian benefit more than those who are born homosexual. Who says you can't be born both? There are many homosexual Christians, mind you. If you are talking about being imprinted with the ideas of Christianity and being unable to change those ideas, how does this give any more benefit to society unless that person is involved in Christianity as an organization? Are you implying that only Christians have morals? I forget who said this, and in what topic [it was either Merciful or Nadril], but it was something like "If you don't kill and rape only because the bible tells you not to then you are a very sick person". Point being, that homosexuals have morals also. Yes, Christianity promotes helping the poor, etc. But without organization, its limited to only throwing change at the homeless, or donating to a general fund. If you think Christians are the only people who donate, think again. Homosexuals donate too, you know. And, if you are going to point out that all Christians as individuals benefit society, that is by far too much of a generalization. There are more non-beneficial Christians then there are beneficial ones. Most people nowadays are just born Christian and don't act on it. And are you ignoring other religions? Christianity isn't the only beneficial religion in this world.

 

 

 

But my above comment was under your hypothetical conditions. Speaking realistically, your comparing apples and oranges; homosexuality isn't a cult following, Christianity is.

 

 

 

As to your second comment, I never said homosexual intercourse, I said the state of being in which homosexuals are, in which a person is uncontrollably attracted to their gender.

[Rebdragon]

Our morals shouldn't change,

 

Wow wow wow.

 

 

 

No, stop right there.

 

 

 

The moment you stop wishing to change your morals is the moment you stop growing. Cliche, but true. If you went by that credo your entire life, well, you'd still be in Stage One stuck with the morals of a infant.

 

 

 

And hey, as a naturally born stone cold pessimist I believe human beings are collectively dumber than a rock way much more than the next guy, but just because I don't have faith in mankind (hyperbolically of course) doesn't mean I'm not going to try and form morals in the only society I've got. Look past people's faults and try and learn a little, it'll do you some good in life.

[The Real ET]

Our morals shouldn't change,

 

Wow wow wow.

 

 

 

No, stop right there.

 

 

 

The moment you stop wishing to change your morals is the moment you stop growing. Cliche, but true. If you went by that credo your entire life, well, you'd still be in Stage One stuck with the morals of a infant.

 

 

 

And hey, as a naturally born stone cold pessimist I believe human beings are collectively dumber than a rock way much more than the next guy, but just because I don't have faith in mankind (hyperbolically of course) doesn't mean I'm not going to try and form morals in the only society I've got. Look past people's faults and try and learn a little, it'll do you some good in life.

 

 

 

I think they meant as a society. Morals don't dictate change in your life. Mine haven't changed much in years. Change in life is dictated by experience and how you think. You can change your way of thinking without changing morally.

[WolfhunterXZ]

I have no major standing on this. It's neither right nor wrong.

 

 

 

I'm not religious, but I do believe in a higher being(s) and whatnot.

 

 

 

My sister is homosexual (Lesbian) and she cannot change that. So people who say "People can decide to do it blah blah" you are extremely wrong. Yes, SOME people choose to, for attention, but others have mental problems caused by happenings in the past that effect them now to become homosexual.

 

 

 

And to people who say it's just "Wrong, wrong, wrong!" why? Religion? Especially for the Catholics, the priests? What's this? You hear about it a lot, the priests molesting YOUNG BOYS. In the bible it does not say that homosexuality is WRONG. It says that people should be in relationships that pro-create, so it's saying that you should be in a relationship that's male and female, but it doesn't say that being a homosexual is wrong and bad.

 

 

 

And for those truly religious peoples, who say that if two persons of the same sex are together that they're going to hell because they're gross/sinners/etc, you are rude, you're forgetting the majority of Religion which is forgiveness and Loving one another. Also, don't go saying that they can be healed, unless these people chose to be homosexual in the first place, they can't be magically healed, no matter how hard you try to say they can.

 

 

 

And no, I'm not saying that it's right to be homosexual, I just don't care if someone is or not, as long as they don't go shoving it in my face. I'm a guy, so if I see two girls together (especially if they're cute girls ((no offense ladies <3)) then I find it hot. If it's two guys together, I don't care, but if they start kissing or cuddling then I mind.

 

 

 

That's my view, and don't bother quoting me a lot, I probably won't read this thread again.

[warri0r45]

I find this hilarious - "Accept the people, reject the act", in your words...So accept the people committing the rejected act? That makes no sense and is pure "Honestly, I'm not a bigot!" spew.

 

 

 

Here's an example: You can accept a liar, and accept the fact that that is how he/she is, and that's how he/she lives their life. That doesn't mean you accept the act of lying and doesn't mean you believe its a just and moral thing to do.

 

 

 

Lying hurts other people and distorts reality to those they lie to. Homosexuality is a biological feature of that person and it doesn't harm me or you or anybody else in the society mentally, physically, financially or any other way.

 

 

 

The act of homosexuality hurting anyone doesn't matter, when the argument is about the fact that certain people still find the act of homosexuality wrong, if it hurts others or doesn't hurt others. Its irrelevant. We condemn the act, but we don't condemn the people themselves, we still accept them as how they are. As fellow humans its not up to us to condemn them personally (that's God's job) but it doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on why we disagree with the act of homosexuality.

 

 

 

As stated its irrelevant whether or not you can justify to me the act of homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, when either way its still seen in my eyes and others as a immoral act.

 

 

 

Eels, you are entitled to that view but the non-Christians of the tip it community have a hard time understanding why something is wrong just because the bible says so. Even more so when the act dosen't actually hurt anyone. That's why the argument that homosexuality harms no-one comes up.

 

 

 

Our morals shouldn't change, just because society is more accepting of it. Especially considering that our society is going down hill, with more selfish, self centered people in this world. God doesn't change his views on how we should live, and neither should a Christian judge their morals on societies acceptance of certain acts.

 

 

 

And for the record, prostitution doesn't hurt anyone, should I as a Christian accept that as a Godly way to live, since it doesn't hurt anyone and that society is becoming increasingly accepting of it? In fact Warrior, should I even have morals or standards, I strive to live by, in a society such as ours today? Or should I just live by what society says is right and just hope that its not going to continue to go downhill from here?

 

 

 

This all dependant on having a Christian view of things. I don't see moral relitivism as a bad thing, rather a process for sorting out our pre-concieved notions from a more ignorant time in history. I can't deny that society seems to be getting more selfish but on the wider scale of things, I'd hardly consider society today as any worse than it was 50 years ago, for example.

 

 

 

@ Bold, Sure, you should have morals and standards. If you don't like what society states about an issue, by all means dissent. I'm not all that fond of some aspects of society myself.

 

 

 

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All of that aside, do you feel homosexulaity in particular is making society worse or more selfish? If so, in what way?

[warri0r45]

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@ Bold, Sure, you should have morals and standards. If you don't like what society states about an issue, by all means dissent. I'm not all that fond of some aspects of society myself.

 

 

 

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All of that aside, do you feel homosexulaity in particular is making society worse or more selfish? If so, in what way?

 

 

 

@ Your first statement. Thankyou I'm glad you accept my views and way of life, exactly like you accept a homosexuals way of life. I'm glad there's no hypocrisy there.

 

 

 

@ Your question. My answer to that is I believe whole-heartedly that homosexuality doesn't contribute to the good of society in anyway, and this act increasing won't help society as a whole in anyway. Its not making society more selfish, all of society as a whole is contributing to it becoming a more selfish generation. Hopefully we change this trend in our Western Societies but I'm quite pessimistic about it.