Cafebcs Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Rune Ess Prices Went Down! Brief Explanation of the Why By Cafebcs My friend Ryokobalta asked me: "Please, cafe, do explain how an increase in demand for ess would decrease the price. Since as you said, ONLY free to play and members below 30 mining can mine rune ess. Why would a MEMBERS update, or the assist system for that matter, affect regular rune prices? It's entirely possible that the prices just happened to go down a few gold around that time, but what in the world makes you think that the ZMI altar and assist system would be affecting the price of runes? Especially since the ZMI altar doesn't even affect freebies in the slightest. People craft at the ZMI altar solely for experience, so please explain, 'cause I'm all ears." [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] I answer: "All this starts since the release of pure ess. Both members and free players had it at 80gp before the release. Then the pure ess went to 100ea and thats the price until our days. The rune ess, because it got rejected by members, went down from 80 to 60 per piece. World 16 is famous for its air temple, you can hire a runner paying him 2k and ess back. Jagex made world 16 the official air running world, its f2p. The prices of pure ess went around 110-90ea. Rune ess went down from 60 to 40. The interesting stuff is that ZMI altar was a member update but affected non members because they stopped going to f2p to hire workers (because members can buy body runes for pay to the banker at ZIM altar and it saves a lot of money). The members sold their rune ess and went back to members. Now there are more rune ess on the market. Prices went down from 40 to 20. The assist system is the one that made the final shot to non member economy. Now low level players (p2p and f2p) have the ability of craft high level runes and multiple runes. Rune ess on the market is not longer needed (as theory). Pure ess got estabilized at 100 per piece and rune ess went down from 20 to 10. With the grand exchange is possible to nulify the price of rune ess to be almost free. But it can also keep it firm on 20. We need to look how the system will work. Check again, rune ess at air temple gives 5xp per ess and worth 20 coins each. Compared with pure ess, you get 5xp also but it worth five times more than the rune ess (100ea) Runes crafted on death temple gives 10xp and you need pure ess. Air runes gives 5xp and you need rune ess or pure ess. For every death rune crafted you can craft two airs (if you are runecraft 1, at level 77 you can craft 8 airs per ess) to get the same experience. If with 2 rune ess used on air temple I get the same experience than using 1 pure ess on death temple then I prefer get those 2 rune ess at 40 coins than to get 1 pure ess at 100 coins. I hope this brief explanation helps to clarify why members updates affected on the market of rune ess at non members." Cafebcs © 2007. Made at Nov 12, 2007. Backup at Runeweb --------------- Post Quoted by: None. I done saying what I needed to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_s_2 Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 time to start rcing. 99 attack-34,104th to 99 attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 If you had to guess will the Grand Exchange make prices go up or down? Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 time to start rcing. buy 99 rc with fires? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 time to start rcing. buy 99 rc with fires? I'm not sure what you mean there? Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 You forgot the shops that sold infinity airs for 17each, after the update. Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_god_of_soup Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 LEST MKAE A THRED KTHXBAI. Nobody needs to know about every price raise. There are thousands of items, and they all rise or fall on a daily basis. Aside from that, you can't base whole price ranges on one buying or selling price, and you sure cant use your own buying picture. The spelling and grammar of that email was that of an 11 year old palestinian goatboy who is speaking english for the first timeQuite simply, Facebook craps on Myspace. Then makes it eat the crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordwindtrtrtrt Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 There really needs to be a forum entitled "Amateur economics/Spam" for threads like this. GF TIF. 9 November 2006 - 22 January 2008, when I could no longer stand the painted turd that is the Tip.It community. Only posting in rants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 time to start rcing. buy 99 rc with fires? I'm not sure what you mean there? buy all the rune ess for 99 but using them to make fires. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsephiroth Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 [hide]Rune Ess Prices Went Down! Brief Explanation of the Why By Cafebcs My friend Ryokobalta asked me: "Please, cafe, do explain how an increase in demand for ess would decrease the price. Since as you said, ONLY free to play and members below 30 mining can mine rune ess. Why would a MEMBERS update, or the assist system for that matter, affect regular rune prices? It's entirely possible that the prices just happened to go down a few gold around that time, but what in the world makes you think that the ZMI altar and assist system would be affecting the price of runes? Especially since the ZMI altar doesn't even affect freebies in the slightest. People craft at the ZMI altar solely for experience, so please explain, 'cause I'm all ears." [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] [hide=IMAGE DATE] [/hide] I answer: "All this starts since the release of pure ess. Both members and free players had it at 80gp before the release. Then the pure ess went to 100ea and thats the price until our days. The rune ess, because it got rejected by members, went down from 80 to 60 per piece. World 16 is famous for its air temple, you can hire a runner paying him 2k and ess back. Jagex made world 16 the official air running world, its f2p. The prices of pure ess went around 110-90ea. Rune ess went down from 60 to 40. The interesting stuff is that ZMI altar was a member update but affected non members because they stopped going to f2p to hire workers (because members can buy body runes for pay to the banker at ZIM altar and it saves a lot of money). The members sold their rune ess and went back to members. Now there are more rune ess on the market. Prices went down from 40 to 20. The assist system is the one that made the final shot to non member economy. Now low level players (p2p and f2p) have the ability of craft high level runes and multiple runes. Rune ess on the market is not longer needed (as theory). Pure ess got estabilized at 100 per piece and rune ess went down from 20 to 10. With the grand exchange is possible to nulify the price of rune ess to be almost free. But it can also keep it firm on 20. We need to look how the system will work. Check again, rune ess at air temple gives 5xp per ess and worth 20 coins each. Compared with pure ess, you get 5xp also but it worth five times more than the rune ess (100ea) Runes crafted on death temple gives 10xp and you need pure ess. Air runes gives 5xp and you need rune ess or pure ess. For every death rune crafted you can craft two airs (if you are runecraft 1, at level 77 you can craft 8 airs per ess) to get the same experience. If with 2 rune ess used on air temple I get the same experience than using 1 pure ess on death temple then I prefer get those 2 rune ess at 40 coins than to get 1 pure ess at 100 coins. I hope this brief explanation helps to clarify why members updates affected on the market of rune ess at non members." Cafebcs © 2007. Made at Nov 12, 2007. Backup at Runeweb --------------- Post Quoted by: None. I done saying what I needed to say.[/hide] how much time did you waste making this post? I only spent about 30 seconds with this one..[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2quit Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 why bother making a topic like this?? Rune essence, either on its own or in the new (new to me I liked it how it was....) Regular vs Pure form has fluxuated in price a lot. I remember buying some for 20 gp, all the way to 110 gp per, and the cheifly rced rune - nat has changed in price equally (400 per anyone.. ). And tbh if everyone made a topic about how price either went up or down I migh as well shoot my face of for all the good it would be.. Oh and whoever mentioned the new fourm for amature economics, I've got to agree with you.... Solo GWD'er Drops: Bandos Hilt x 1/ boots x 1 / Steam staff x 1 / Shards x 9 99 Str/ 99 Att/ 99 HP (More to come...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naruto_1001 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Atleast I like your topic... I got 865k rune ess so lets hope it goes up :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_99_Melee Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Guys flax went down 1 gp this morning!!!!!!!!!! Its anarchy in Seers :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet_skunk Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 omg the end is nigh,board up your houses.hide your family! A pitiful price drop will bring the end of the world!!!In all honesty though the only people who will genuinly care about this price drop is those who's sole source of income is Rune Ess selling (if that is their only source of income then they really need to find a new way of moneymaking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver24-7 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 You forgot the shops that sold infinity airs for 17each, after the update. This is really much more of the real reason ;) I'm Finally 99 mage ^^ (and cooking...) :PSilver24-7 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chielekop Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 You forgot the shops that sold infinity airs for 17each, after the update. This is really much more of the real reason ;) Indeed! +1 ~chielekop Currently hunting for clues. Any advice? PM me please =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Good for me, 70 RC is gonna be cheaper :D Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinyou Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Ok, so 3 people out of the entire runescape community. 100k airs 10ea.... im pretty sure thats called merchanting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafebcs Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 * IMAGE DATE: Nov 20, 2007. I bought 6k rune ess at 27ea on world 3.ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâû Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinyou Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Its only rune ess... If it were to be Pure ess then we have a problem :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 LEST MKAE A THRED KTHXBAI. Nobody needs to know about every price raise. There are thousands of items, and they all rise or fall on a daily basis. Aside from that, you can't base whole price ranges on one buying or selling price, and you sure cant use your own buying picture. I agree with that post. Many things fall, or rise, no need to post them all, sorry. I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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