Is Jagex slowly killing this game?

[CaJ]

Well, after a long hiatus I decided to log in a few days ago on my account, and the changes that have been made since my departure are shocking. I really feel as if Jagex is slowly deciding to kill this game with their meaningless updates and their lack of support for higher level players. Perhaps the most upsetting update is the Grand Exchange. It just killed many of the ways merchants make their money. It is now harder to earn the items you want than before the update was put into effect. As if the layout of the game wasn't bad enough (it was alright when RS2 started, why did Jagex have to change it?), there was also the wilderness ditch and possibly worst of all, the duel arena update. What kind of bullcrap is this if you can only stake 3k? It wasn't anything in the old days, it's not worth anything now. How do you feel Pkers and Skillers feel about this? Does anyone not realize how this ruined the way of staking millions?

 

 

 

It feels that today that I am no longer part of the community anymore (I quit the game but still, if you played the game you should still be a part of it), I'm being pushed aside for the newer players who don't know jack on how great Runescape used to be. There is simply no denying that Runescape is going downhill. If this was still the days when RS2 just started I would still be playing now, or even just a couple years ago. But in recent years (aka 2006-current), Jagex has made changes to make the game more restrictive for veteran players rather than giving them an adventure. Runescape doesn't need more tutors. It doesn't need more catering. It doesn't need more equality. It doesn't need more sugercoated crap put into it. Weren't we supposed to be set free and enjoy everything the game had to offer? It needs competition, and it seems that with every recent update Jagex puts out it just strays away from what the purpose of Runescape was supposed to be. By all honesty, I see no point in an assist system (the lower lvl players should be given items and advice, not help with skills), I see no point in going to duel arena to stake a lousy 3k, and I see no point in using the Grand Exchange to watch Jagex dictate the prices. Even stuff like prayer and magic has changed. What happened to tanglevine? I don't need a home teleport.

 

 

 

This game was quite amazing when it first started (aka RS Classic), and up until the end of 2004 things were going good. Then came the pointless updates, rants, and the catering to players who've only just started days ago before these updates would infest the once great game. Where's the catering to the high lvled veterans people? Why can't there be a quest that requires a few 90+ skills, or something that is worth doing such as Legends Quest or Heroes Quest? Instead, Jagex continues to ignore the cry of dedicated players and focus more on the players who don't deserve anything. More and more high lvl players are quitting, and anymore, it's tough for me to find somebody who has been loyal and fair to the game since it's creation.

 

 

 

The reason why I quit for this long (one and a half years) in the first place is because Jagex decided to take upon a direction I did not want to participate in. These new updates, in my opinion, are making competition less fun. Even the older players are agreeing with this. If Jagex actually decided to log in and do a little skilling rather than show up and do nothing, they would agree that Runescape has lost it's spirit as of late. I want my old RS back guys. It doesn't mean I want to go back to 2003 or 2004. It means that I want that freedom that was once there to return. I refuse to use these updates, but ones such as assist system simply can't be ignored easily. That means that a lvl 3 who had gotten an uncut dragonstone can now get an ammy of glory. What stupid thinking Jagex has made with that. I'm sick and tired of these fools only caring about the money. If they are getting paid thousands if not millions to keep this game going, wouldn't you think they would be releasing quality updates like they did 3-5 years ago? Jagex today acts behind their cheap excuses of "real world trading" and "the threat of bots." I felt the number of random events that were around in 2004 was enough. If anything, updates that were put into the game since the introduction of Pest Control should be removed. I prefer the old ways of training.

 

 

 

This game is too easy now. There is no point. In response to older players, the nice community we once had in members is gone and nonexistant. Did people get lazy in recent years? Yes. That doesn't mean that Jagex should try to give them any hope in adding something like an assist system or giving them "X Options." Staking and Pking are but two great examples of how Runescape has passed from its former glory. Jagex has listened to paying customers too long and not the real dedicated players. The soul of runescape, the essence that brought many of the veteran players into the game has died. Today is not the same game. It's been proven time and time again when government, or in this case Jagex, when they interfere with a great economy Runescape once had, things tend to take a turn for the worse. This proves them to be ignorant, and I go by the phrase "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!"

 

 

 

So in conclusion, nothing is the same anymore. I had potential in Jagex to make Runescape grand and awesome, like they did through the days of Runescape Classic and early RS2. There is something wrong when an update is posted and you get 500 rants on the forums, by all means that is not supposed to happen. Sure everyone has ranted on every update day in and day out, but nothing to the point where we tend to believe it ruins the game. The game is just no fun anymore, with the constant new items being pushed in our faces, constant price changes, etc. It just seems like punishment to me and other dedicated players. I really don't think I missed anything great in my year and a half hiatus, other than updates to make the game worse more than to enhance it. The Runescape I knew and loved is dead. And therefore, I have no reason to become a member.

[HatshepsutLecter]

After reading that I realize that you probably hate all new players to the game, but you do realize that the company has to do something for those people and not just focus on high level players right? If everything in the game was created to keep the high level players happy, then don't you think that a lot of the lower leveled people would get discouraged and stop playing the game altogether?

 

 

 

As for your complaints, the ditch is there for a reason. It is there to stop all of the scamming that was going on in that area of the game before it was put up. I like it. It has a purpose and it is serving that purpose very well. So what if it takes people a second longer to get into the wilderness?

 

 

 

The grand exchange was, in my opinion, a fantastic update. It helps people that are not good with the merchanting scene and who have slow computers, that could not get into world 2 to trade, to get the items that they need.

 

 

 

And even though I know that the duel arena update is not going to be the best loved update ever, I think it is serving the purpose that it was put into place to control. They have a valid point when they say that before it could have been used to disguise real life trading. It is not as if this has totally ruined the game. Death matches in the wilderness are still an option right?

 

 

 

Ninja Edit: Just because there are 500 rants posted every time there is an update does not mean that all of the rants have valid points and the update is useless. There are some people that have a way of complaining about the best of things. I am betting that out of those 500 or so rants there are only 2 or 3 that make any kind of sense. I dare you to read the RSOF rants section after any kind of update. It is enough to drive a rational person insane.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

I could've quoted your entire thing and hit some potshots, but I chose to go with this instead.

 

 

 

The game is changing, just like everything else in the world. It doesn't matter where you go; change is inevitable. People are then faced with a choice: they can either live with the changes or they cannot. If they cannot, then they're sent along their merry way to another game that won't update nearly as frequently, listen to their community nearly as intense, or take a proactive stance against the autoer/RTS niche. Where do you think the idea for bank pins came from? What about crossbow updates? Dragon arrows and more Dragon equipment? Where do you think that Jagex gets the inspiration from? Why do you think that Jagex is trying to do something against RTS?

 

 

 

You should also know that most anger comes out of sheer fear of change. Why do you think so many people hated the Duel Arena? It changed what they were so familiar with, and as such, they felt very threatened on their way of gaming. Why do you think so many people hated the Exchange, the ditch, various appearances of major RuneScape cities? They didn't want to cope with change, but they didn't want to just abandon a game they had come to appreciate. Those that do finally make their "gran rifuto", but they do so in such a way it doesn't benefit the game whatsoever. Why the hell should any random Joe care about some 'veteran' quitting the game? Perhaps they finally moved on with some things, perhaps they got a job, are in college, decided to play WoW...

 

 

 

Honestly, your leaving the game doesn't make me want to light a candle for you, or even hold the door open for you. Why should I care that you can't live with what Jagex has decided to do with their game? You do not affect me directly enough for me to make you stop and reconsider; you'll have to do that with yourself on your own.

[Solidus_77]

Apparently, the reason why humans have triumphed in this world is due to their ability to adapt to change. :roll:

[dutchdreams]

How many times are we going to this rant of you, in one shape or another? http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=712545&highlight= (the one you wrote about half a year ago is gone from archives)

[polos]

i dont think that jagex are killing the game, jsut getting rid of the non skill based ways of making money, i dont like to generalise but most merchanters and stakers are gennerally aggresive people and oftern lash out at me :?.

[pati]

Well they can't please everyone, can they? But I think they do their best.

 

Also don't look at the past, look at the futur!!! Who knows what new cool things jagex may gonna release.

[Solidus_77]

i dont think that jagex are killing the game, jsut getting rid of the non skill based ways of making money, i dont like to generalise but most merchanters and stakers are gennerally aggresive people and oftern lash out at me :?.

 

 

 

If you don't like to generalize then don't generalize. And what is wrong with non-skill based ways of making money? There's more than just skills in this game.

[Unoalexi]

Do you make one of these every month or something?! Puh-lease! :roll:

 

Well, after a long hiatus I decided to log in a few days ago on my account, and the changes that have been made since my departure are shocking. I really feel as if Jagex is slowly deciding to kill this game with their meaningless updates and their lack of support for higher level players. Perhaps the most upsetting update is the Grand Exchange. It just killed many of the ways merchants make their money. It is now harder to earn the items you want than before the update was put into effect. As if the layout of the game wasn't bad enough (it was alright when RS2 started, why did Jagex have to change it?), there was also the wilderness ditch and possibly worst of all, the duel arena update. What kind of bullcrap is this if you can only stake 3k? It wasn't anything in the old days, it's not worth anything now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you don't like the changes, don't play...As for me, I like how Jagex actually tries to make the game better..

 

 

 

There needs to be more updates for newer players. Why? So that they decide they like this game and comeback!

 

 

 

Honestly, would you keep playing a game that, to do practically anything, you had to be cb lvl 90+?

 

Plus, desperate times call for desperate measures. Jagex has to take to more extreme steps in killing RLT because tamer options aren't working..

 

 

 

Early RS didn't have-

 

1.Hunter

 

2.Construction

 

3.The Godwars Dungeon

 

4.Several quests geared at high level players, no sense naming them all.(Do you even bother to read the news?)

 

5.Treasure trail items

 

6.Clan chat

 

7. There are many more, these are just the ones I can name off the top of my head...

 

 

 

It feels that today that I am no longer part of the community anymore (I quit the game but still, if you played the game you should still be a part of it), I'm being pushed aside for the newer players who don't know jack on how great Runescape used to be. There is simply no denying that Runescape is going downhill. If this was still the days when RS2 just started I would still be playing now, or even just a couple years ago. But in recent years (aka 2006-current), Jagex has made changes to make the game more restrictive for veteran players rather than giving them an adventure. Runescape doesn't need more tutors. It doesn't need more catering. It doesn't need more sugercoated crap put into it. Weren't we supposed to be set free and enjoy everything the game had to offer? By all honesty, I see no point in an assist system, I see no point in going to duel arena to stake a lousy 3k, and I see no point in using the Grand Exchange to watch Jagex dictate the prices. Even stuff like prayer and magic has changed. What happened to tanglevine? I don't need a home teleport.

 

 

 

 

Sugar coated crap?? Once again, these are for noobs who don't know about things! How many times have you gone up to a high level and asked them for information, only to have them laugh in your face or put you on ignore?? This is exactly why Jagex gave the noobs tutors..

 

 

 

The home teleport is very useful, why you wouldn't want a free teleport without wasting any runes is beyond me..

 

 

 

People aren't forcing you to use the assist them. It was implemented to stop item scamming.. Why is this a bad thing?? :roll:

 

 

 

If you haven't played in a while, how can you possibly judge the community at large??

 

 

 

his game was quite amazing when it first started (aka RS Classic), and up until the end of 2004 things were going good. Then came the pointless updates, rants, and the catering to players who've only just started days ago before these updates would infest the once great game. Where's the catering to the high lvled veterans people? Why can't there be a quest that requires a few 90+ skills, or something that is worth doing such as Legends Quest or Heroes Quest? Instead, Jagex continues to ignore the cry of dedicated players and focus more on the players who don't deserve anything. More and more high lvl players are quitting, and anymore, it's tough for me to find somebody who has been loyal and fair to the game since it's creation.

 

 

 

So basically if my combat level isn't 90+ I "don't deserve anything"? :x

 

I love it how the high-level Classic moaners whine whenever Jagex makes an update not specifically catered to their levels.. Do us a a favor and go back to Classic because honestly nobody cares

 

 

 

Plus, I hardly agree with your sugar-coated vision of Classic. Virtually everyone autoed or macroed, the graphics made your eyes bleed, ect. (see list of things early RS didn't have)

 

 

 

The reason why I quit for this long (one and a half years) in the first place is because Jagex decided to take upon a direction I did not want to participate in. These new updates, in my opinion, are making competition less fun. Even the older players are agreeing with this. If Jagex actually decided to log in and do a little skilling rather than show up and do nothing, they would agree that Runescape has lost it's spirit as of late. I want my old RS back guys. It doesn't mean I want to go back to 2003 or 2004. It means that I want that freedom that was once there to return. I refuse to use these updates, but ones such as assist system simply can't be ignored easily. That means that a lvl 3 who had gotten an uncut dragonstone can now get an ammy of glory. What stupid thinking Jagex has made with that. I'm sick and tired of these fools only caring about the money. If they are getting paid thousands if not millions to keep this game going, wouldn't you think they would be releasing quality updates like they did 3-5 years ago? Jagex today acts behind their cheap excuses of "real world trading" and "the threat of bots." I felt the number of random events that were around in 2004 was enough. If anything, updates that were put into the game since the introduction of Pest Control should be removed. I prefer the old ways of training.

 

 

 

Your ignorance of the macro community is amusing. The random events did nothing whatsoever. If Jagex hadn't been proactive in their war against the macros then Runescape would be practically overrun by now(like Classic).

 

 

 

Simply turn assist off! Plus, the lvl 3 would have to obtain the dragonstone in the first place.. This was done so that a arrogant high-level wouldn't steal his gem!

 

 

 

I have much more to say about your laughable rant, but I am really tired of typing right now..

[CaJ]

Are you guys that narrow minded? I posted my opinions and you guys bash me on it, what the's point in that?

 

 

 

Longterm players are the backbone to this game, yet update after update is just flashy distractions, to lure other short attention span gamers into switching to Runescape.

 

 

 

In order to add more content to this game (if that is indeed their objective) there are many things that can be improved that don't give advantages but offer rewards. There is a huge difference between updating something and adding something else that's new.

 

 

 

So many skills have been left unfinished. Patient and motivated players are far beyond the rate of quality updates. The majority of skills end in the 80s to low 90s and yet thousands have already become masters of them. Do these experts in those skills see a reward? Not really. The benefits from any skill from even 98 to 99 is almost unnoticable. They gave us capes and emotes which don't even add benefit to any skill outside of combat. If your cape is in something like farming, then why the hell would a farming cape need combat stat benefits? It's poorly planned, and it leaves us something that is based on EGO, not REWARD.

 

 

 

Should a lvl 99 player get huge advantages? Better rewards? Yes! Since they have got to the top of the ladder. They should hit the hardest, get the biggest drops, fastest woodcutting and mining, biggest crops, access to special areas, etc. etc... then instead of holding hands of lower to mid lvl players, easing their frustrations as they get the level, make the incentive to get to the top, not to need a free ride there.

 

 

 

The surge of immature players lead to the downfall of this game sadly. Dedicated players are now merely trying to stand in front of this pestilence that is sweeping across Runescape. This year marks the decay of Runescape. Personally, I find the month of November was utter ruination for dedicated players. Nearly every update has been quite apparantly aimed at attracting new players.

 

 

 

For example, the latest Party Room Changes update. Jagex merely attempted to veil their intentions with stopping real world item trading. In over three years of membership I never came across anyone trying to drop trade through the Party Room.MOD Edit: Drop Trading is against Jagex rules please don't advise others how to do it ~ Shaz

 

 

 

I have come to notice that Jagex acts the part of a savior yet they have tongues of serpents. As long as Jagex rakes in large sums of money they will continue to appeal to the new players. I highly doubt Jagex cares at all about their older players. We originally helped to support them, our payment seems to be that we will become the forgotten.

[HatshepsutLecter]

Are you guys that narrow minded? I posted my opinions and you guys bash me on it, what the's point in that?

 

I guess you have never been to the rants section here before. That is basically what happens with every single rant here. If you didn't want people to bash you for this, you should have kept it to yourself and kept your mouse off of the post button.

 

 

 

Longterm players are the backbone to this game, yet update after update is just flashy distractions, to lure other short attention span gamers into switching to Runescape.

 

Ever think that these might just also be a way to try and keep these "longterm" players interested in the game so that they don't switch over to another game that shall remain unnamed that has better flashier graphics?

 

 

 

In order to add more content to this game (if that is indeed their objective) there are many things that can be improved that don't give advantages but offer rewards. There is a huge difference between updating something and adding something else that's new.

 

Ever think that they can add new content and update the old stuff jeez, I don't know, at the same time?

 

 

 

So many skills have been left unfinished. Patient and motivated players are far beyond the rate of quality updates. The majority of skills end in the 80s to low 90s and yet thousands have already become masters of them. Do these experts in those skills see a reward? Not really. The benefits from any skill from even 98 to 99 is almost unnoticable. They gave us capes and emotes which don't even add benefit to any skill outside of combat. If your cape is in something like farming, then why the hell would a farming cape need combat stat benefits? It's poorly planned, and it leaves us something that is based on EGO, not REWARD.

 

This leads me to believe that you have not read a single thing about the new Barbarian update that included the dungeon with the mith dragons. When they did this the added many things to a lot of skills that made it so that there are things to do at much higher levels than there used to be, including herblore and the often ignored firemaking skill. Lunar magics also did this not too long ago with the magic skill. You really don't research what you choose to complain about do you?

 

 

 

Should a lvl 99 player get huge advantages? Better rewards? Yes! Since they have got to the top of the ladder. They should hit the hardest, get the biggest drops, fastest woodcutting and mining, biggest crops, access to special areas, etc. etc... then instead of holding hands of lower to mid lvl players, easing their frustrations as they get the level, make the incentive to get to the top, not to need a free ride there.

 

You don't have any level 99 skills do you? I am guessing that because if you did you would know that even with all of the new updates that getting to level 99 in most of the skills is far from a free ride. And even the ones that are slightly easier costs a very large amount of money if you chose to get that level in the slightly faster way.

 

 

 

Nearly every update has been quite apparantly aimed at attracting new players.

 

You are aware that Jagex is a business and these new players are how this business makes money right?

 

 

 

For example, the latest Party Room Changes update. Jagex merely attempted to veil their intentions with stopping real world item trading. In over three years of membership I never came across anyone trying to drop trade through the Party Room. MOD Edit: Drop Trading is against Jagex rules please don't advise others how to do it ~ Shaz

 

Way to say how to drop trade in forums. :P

 

But seriously, how am I supposed to take you saying you have never seen it happen as proof that it never happens? I am pretty sure that you are incapable of playing the game 24 hours a day on every single world.

 

 

 

As long as Jagex rakes in large sums of money they will continue to appeal to the new players.

 

Why yes, that is what people are looking for in a new game. Why whenever I find some kind of new game on the internet that I haven't heard of before, the first thing I do is go and see if they are making a lot of money. Then, and only then, do I decided whether or not I am going to play the game. [/sarcasm]

[CaJ]

Are you guys that narrow minded? I posted my opinions and you guys bash me on it, what the's point in that?

 

I guess you have never been to the rants section here before. That is basically what happens with every single rant here. If you didn't want people to bash you for this, you should have kept it to yourself and kept your mouse off of the post button.

 

 

 

Longterm players are the backbone to this game, yet update after update is just flashy distractions, to lure other short attention span gamers into switching to Runescape.

 

Ever think that these might just also be a way to try and keep these "longterm" players interested in the game so that they don't switch over to another game that shall remain unnamed that has better flashier graphics?

 

 

 

In order to add more content to this game (if that is indeed their objective) there are many things that can be improved that don't give advantages but offer rewards. There is a huge difference between updating something and adding something else that's new.

 

Ever think that they can add new content and update the old stuff jeez, I don't know, at the same time?

 

 

 

So many skills have been left unfinished. Patient and motivated players are far beyond the rate of quality updates. The majority of skills end in the 80s to low 90s and yet thousands have already become masters of them. Do these experts in those skills see a reward? Not really. The benefits from any skill from even 98 to 99 is almost unnoticable. They gave us capes and emotes which don't even add benefit to any skill outside of combat. If your cape is in something like farming, then why the hell would a farming cape need combat stat benefits? It's poorly planned, and it leaves us something that is based on EGO, not REWARD.

 

This leads me to believe that you have not read a single thing about the new Barbarian update that included the dungeon with the mith dragons. When they did this the added many things to a lot of skills that made it so that there are things to do at much higher levels than there used to be, including herblore and the often ignored firemaking skill. Lunar magics also did this not too long ago with the magic skill. You really don't research what you choose to complain about do you?

 

 

 

Should a lvl 99 player get huge advantages? Better rewards? Yes! Since they have got to the top of the ladder. They should hit the hardest, get the biggest drops, fastest woodcutting and mining, biggest crops, access to special areas, etc. etc... then instead of holding hands of lower to mid lvl players, easing their frustrations as they get the level, make the incentive to get to the top, not to need a free ride there.

 

You don't have any level 99 skills do you? I am guessing that because if you did you would know that even with all of the new updates that getting to level 99 in most of the skills is far from a free ride. And even the ones that are slightly easier costs a very large amount of money if you chose to get that level in the slightly faster way.

 

 

 

Nearly every update has been quite apparantly aimed at attracting new players.

 

You are aware that Jagex is a business and these new players are how this business makes money right?

 

 

 

For example, the latest Party Room Changes update. Jagex merely attempted to veil their intentions with stopping real world item trading. In over three years of membership I never came across anyone trying to drop trade through the Party Room. MOD Edit: Drop Trading is against Jagex rules please don't advise others how to do it ~ Shaz

 

Way to say how to drop trade in forums. :P

 

But seriously, how am I supposed to take you saying you have never seen it happen as proof that it never happens? I am pretty sure that you are incapable of playing the game 24 hours a day on every single world.

 

 

 

As long as Jagex rakes in large sums of money they will continue to appeal to the new players.

 

Why yes, that is what people are looking for in a new game. Why whenever I find some kind of new game on the internet that I haven't heard of before, the first thing I do is go and see if they are making a lot of money. Then, and only then, do I decided whether or not I am going to play the game. [/sarcasm]

 

 

 

No, I did not come here to hurt anybody. I came here to express a point that Jagex has failed to notice in recent months. I am expecting good opinions from others here as well as bad ones. So far, people like you are disagreeing with everything I try to point out. Where's that in getting a message across?

 

 

 

I know this, because I've been around players who have played the game for a long time, and they have noticed a change in the game for the worse. Change is not always good, but I think Jagex can do better than what they are doing now.

 

 

 

I advise you to read some of the rants on Runescape forums. While not all of them are good, a few are well written and I've gotten many of my opinions from there, as well as looking at the new updates. It seems that RS Tip It is in a different league than from what those people are trying to get across.

 

 

 

Wow, do I count daisies? All I'm saying is that I want Jagex to fix the things they already made, but it seems with every new update, another problem occurs.

 

 

 

I do research, and I haven't read about these things because I haven't been to experience them. I saw the GE update, and it was terrible. Why do you think so many high lvl players are complaining now? They don't just do it for the heck of it.

 

 

 

I guess you never bothered to look. I have 99 fletching, and believe me it took me a couple years to get there, without so much on "X Options." I could get 99 cooking if I wanted to, but there is really no purpose other than to raise your skill lvl and to wear a cape.

 

 

 

Your missing the point. If Jagex was still catering to us, they would still be releasing quests like Underground Pass and Monkey Madness. They ruined unidentified herbs, just to appease the younger players. Jagex needs to try the game themselves and ask their player mods how they feel about the changes before they go bustling around changing this or changing that without much thought put into it.

 

 

 

So I accidently pointed out what drop trade is. I did not say I was incapable of playing 24 hours a day. Jagex ruined another update, why did they need to move the Party Room to Falador when it was just fine and dandy in Camelot?

 

 

 

No, they look for a new game to have fun and to experience different feelings throughout their gameplay. That's what you get in a MMORPG. There are ones out there that don't necessarily think about trying to make a lot of money, they are there to meet player's satisfaction and to give them good, meaningful updates. You can't please everyone, but that seems to be the course that Jagex has taken in recent years.

[snake6man]

I only read the first 2 paragraphs, but i can easily tell that you arnt very smart. You are talking about stuff that you've come into the game and seen. you oviusly havent read the KB articles on the updates, they tell you all you need to know about the updates and why they've been doing them. so please dont come in here and act like you know everything when you havent even done simple searches.

 

 

 

Thanx,

 

Snake

[marauder009]

Jagex apparently values the opinions on new lower skilled players

 

 

 

They obviously have no concern for players with aging accounts.

 

 

 

They feel certain that we won't quit paying our 5 bucks but we will and the new lower skilled players will pay the 5 dollars and have no idea how the game was supposed to be played. They will skill faster and easier though.

 

 

 

There own weakness and demand for ease will destroy the game as the real players know it.

 

 

 

My message to the newbs who insist upon ease of play I hope the dragon kills you.

[purfishx]

Jagex doesn't care if you quit or not. When you leave about 5 newbies come in from different sites so they will still gain money and it's these newbies that they base their updates around.

 

 

 

Sad but true. :|

[dutchdreams]

Are you guys that narrow minded? I posted my opinions and you guys bash me on it, what the's point in that?

 

 

 

Cute, someone suffering from tunnel vision and a disability to adapt to change, calling others narrow minded. You post your negative opinions of a game on a fan-site dedicated to that particular game and you expected milk and cookies? Your opinions basically all boil down to ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâthese updates suck becauseÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ..ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢, which Tip-It has a sticky for, for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

Longterm players are the backbone to this game, yet update after update is just flashy distractions, to lure other short attention span gamers into switching to Runescape.

 

 

 

Ah yes, construction, slayer, hunter, godwars, heaps of quests, new weapons/armors, new minigames and a completely new skill next JanuaryÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ..yes, just flashy distractions.

 

 

 

In order to add more content to this game (if that is indeed their objective) there are many things that can be improved that don't give advantages but offer rewards. There is a huge difference between updating something and adding something else that's new.

 

 

 

Smithing saw an update, with varrock armor, bolt smithing, crossbows. Runecrafting saw a lot of updates. Magic with two completely new spell books. New prayers were added. Ranging was updated. Cooking skill got new items added constantly.

 

Combat overall got updated with higher npcÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s to kill: fight caves, mith dragons, chaos elemental, godwars, all with nice rewards. The list goes on: exactly what was your point again?

 

 

 

So many skills have been left unfinished. Patient and motivated players are far beyond the rate of quality updates. The majority of skills end in the 80s to low 90s and yet thousands have already become masters of them. Do these experts in those skills see a reward? Not really.

 

 

 

The benefits from any skill from even 98 to 99 is almost unnoticable. They gave us capes and emotes which don't even add benefit to any skill outside of combat. If your cape is in something like farming, then why the hell would a farming cape need combat stat benefits? It's poorly planned, and it leaves us something that is based on EGO, not REWARD.

 

 

 

You donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t *have* to powerlevel to a 99 you know. You can take your time and actually make pile loads of money getting there. But I guess thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s not a good enough reward for you?

 

 

 

Should a lvl 99 player get huge advantages? Better rewards? Yes! Since they have got to the top of the ladder. They should hit the hardest, get the biggest drops, fastest woodcutting and mining, biggest crops, access to special areas, etc. etc... then instead of holding hands of lower to mid lvl players, easing their frustrations as they get the level, make the incentive to get to the top, not to need a free ride there.

 

 

 

Not sure what you mean in this paragraph, because the lvl 99 player does get the better drops, better rewards, hits hardest, cuts fastest and has the potential to make the most money. The dedicated players have the ability to work the G.E with all the cash they accumulated in their years of playing.

 

If itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s about the assist system, then I guess you simply donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t understand how it works. Before this was introduced, the high level players would swap items for materials. So your point about mid level players getting a free ride is already mute.

 

The experience-points in the assist system *still* go to the ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâassist-giverÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢, NOT to the one asking for assistance. Nothing changed in that aspect, only thereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s no need for item transfer anymore. People still have to obtain items first, still have to look for the player who has the skill level and then *still* have to look for the player who actually is willing to give the assistance.

 

 

 

The surge of immature players lead to the downfall of this game sadly. Dedicated players are now merely trying to stand in front of this pestilence that is sweeping across Runescape. This year marks the decay of Runescape. Personally, I find the month of November was utter ruination for dedicated players. Nearly every update has been quite apparantly aimed at attracting new players.

 

 

 

Wait a secondÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâæÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ. Merchanting in ruins (according to you), now there is cut-throat competition over prices in the G.E, Dueling killed as an easy money-maker, yet you feel it ruined the game for dedicated players. If anything, itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s exactly what motivated players are after: a harder game where skilling is rewarded (IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m looooooving it). Now the only way to make heaps of money quickly, is raising a skill like runecrafting to 91 (dedication), or getting the big drops from high level monsters (dedication).

 

So, whatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s it going to be? Accepting that those updates were great in appeasing the dedicated/motivated high level player, or keeping your tunnel vision that Jagex is only after the money of short-attention-spanned-players. By the way, the duel arena update is rumored to have cost Jagex 3% of its subscribers (search on these forums), exactly how does that fit in with a money-hungry corporation?

 

 

 

For example, the latest Party Room Changes update. Jagex merely attempted to veil their intentions with stopping real world item trading. In over three years of membership I never came across anyone trying to drop trade through the Party Room.

 

 

 

What is bad about some bankers announcing a drop party in the party room? Only thing I can think of is, that it interferes with parties you want to keep intimate. Exactly how many of those parties did you give in your years of playing? If you want to give private parties now, you can go to your POH. Something a long-playing dedicated and motivated player will surely have.

 

 

 

I have come to notice that Jagex acts the part of a savior yet they have tongues of serpents. As long as Jagex rakes in large sums of money they will continue to appeal to the new players. I highly doubt Jagex cares at all about their older players. We originally helped to support them, our payment seems to be that we will become the forgotten.

 

 

 

Unless you have level 99 in all skills, it really shouldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter what they do to attract new players: those skills were there back in 2004 already. If you liked to level them back then, they should still appeal to you now (unless you changed of course). You can even still level them as you did back then: you donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t *have* to use the updates you claim are aimed at new players. As for not adding high-level updates, see above.

 

 

 

Maybe you should look at yourself and realize that what appealed to you a few years ago, doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t appeal anymore. You donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t play with Lego anymore either, right? ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s easier to blame the big bad corporation Jagex, than actually looking inward. ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s human nature.

 

 

 

Just some opinions, feel free to bash em.

 

 

 

Dutch, one of those dedicated, motivated high level players.

[Unoalexi]

Jagex apparently values the opinions on new lower skilled players

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why is this a bad thing!?

 

 

 

I pay the same amount of money as a person who is level 126 pays. Your telling me that they, who have apparently sat on their computer longer than I have, somehow deserved to be listened too more so than me?? :x

 

 

 

I feel that I know more about this game than (some)people who are "high-leveled"..(considering they are mostly just PC products anyway)

[Gradeskip]

-.- i lost 2m because of the grand exchange update

[RandomKnight]

-.- i lost 2m because of the grand exchange update

 

 

 

I gained 2mill from this update, it let me sell some stuff that would have taken days otherwise

[lordkrohn1626]

Few opinions;

 

 

 

Love GE, nothing better then logging in and seeing 5+mil awaiting your collection....no more surfing the forums, bumping threads, standing around trying to sell the latest treasure trail bounty...edge tele, walk 50 feet, sell item. click submit, and with rare exception...instant sell. love it love it love it

 

 

 

Wildy update =D> enough said there, but suffice it to say that pkers are a small number in comparison to the VAST numbers of players who dont pk, so what a waste the wildy was space wise.....I'd rather give my items to a NPC then a pker while cluing.

 

 

 

duel update, dont duel, dont care :-w

 

 

 

staking dont stake, dont care....but how many REALLY do?

 

 

 

the game is evolving, evolve with it, or move elsewhere, I love the direction they are going.

[HOSTiLE_KAi]

[hide]Sorry but I don't see anything that's gonna ruin a legitimate player...Except the Wildy part which has gone quite extreme.

 

 

 

F2p: Gets more space, a new feature of duel arena (wow), clan wars are now free of looters (WOW) and bots are stumped (WOW x2)

 

 

 

P2p: Same stuff as f2p but the pk part... And for those guys they hate to lose torso and capes :thumbsup: [/hide]

 

Bolded: Previous assumption

 

 

 

Final note: Jagex owns the game, so play it or leave it.

[Final_Mercy]

:S well it's because kids are now the world's economy target..

 

Kids and adolescents (teenagers and through around that age) tend to spend lots of money in irresponsible ways so they're trying to "satisfy" to get more people. It's the same with every other company.

 

Besides with this spoiled nation, it's to have to constantly be able to support everyone, and that's why Jagex has become a bit more attentive on the suggestions. But the people keep suggesting new armors and weapons, skills rather than ways to stop cheaters and support the honest players.

 

In other words, we're not giving them good suggestions, rather we're giving them useless bullfish.

[sk1llz0fg0dz]

At first, I hated these new updates and was really pissed. But someone posted a reply on some thread concerning it and it put it in perspective for me that it really wont effect me that much. Cause, I don't pk or stake, and really, how much of the rs population does both? Sure people do but not when you consider the hundreds of thousands of people that log on everyday.

 

One of the only ones i really don't like is the trading one, I guess I don't merchant that much but my friend was gonna lend me a d wc axe till I get to lvl 99, and I was gonna give him a present when he gets his fire cape. We both constantly do this. So, the recent updates have pissed a lot of people off but, haven't really affected me.

[xevanx]

I agree completely, myself, a veteran and retired player. I do not understand the game anymore its changed at such a rapid pace that it is impossible for us to catch up.

 

 

 

its ridiculous. they are updating to cater to newbs, and not the solid players

[CaJ]

It's crazy over in the Runescape forums. And here none of you are taking it seriously?

 

 

 

I don't have time to complain with a bunch of people who do nothing but disagree with my points. Thus all I'm asking is an honest opinion, but it looks like I'm not getting anything. Oh well, I don't need to be a member or even play this game anymore. If Jagex doesn't care about me quitting the game or doesn't care that what they are doing now is wrong, then I don't care about them either.