With the upcoming 3k limit differential, forums would be worthless in buying and selling goods because everything would be the same price give or take 3,000 gp.

 

 

 

It's attempting to make players conform to use Grand Exchange as the main trading method.

 

 

 

Say I had 10000 Nature runes whose current GE price would be at 275 each. I could not sell over 3000 within 15 minutes at even 1 gp difference otherwise it would be "unbalanced"

 

So if i didn't sell through GE, I'd have to sell at exactly 275 each. But that would be the same as everyone else trying to sell nats on the forum.

 

 

 

The fact that all items would be sold at the same price on the forums would result in:

 

All rares would have to be sold on GE

 

All items in bulk would have to be sold on GE

 

All expensive items would have to be sold on GE

 

There is a minimum limit that an item can go and that price is set by GE.

 

 

 

Your thoughts?

All rares would have to be sold on GE

 

All items in bulk would have to be sold on GE

 

All expensive items would have to be sold on GE

 

 

 

Yup, had already made those conclusions somewhere else.

 

 

 

It is ironic Jagex is claiming trading is not death. Ofcourse, theoretically they are correct, but with the 3,000gp limitation that will soon be imposed on normal trading, you won't see people use normal trading for real trading purposes anymore.

 

 

 

Now that wouldn't be all THAT bad, if the Grand Exchange system actually worked well. However, it has so many issues right now that it is just not funny anymore.

It isn't dead, for item selling and buying it is improved in my opinion.

 

 

 

A fixed price for everything is good, you can buy an item and sell it back a few hours later for the same price easily.

What I dont understand is how items are going to fluxuate (Spelling?) in price with the new trading system/GE. Santas are roughly 22m each right now, so does that mean that all rares are stuck at that exact price forever since thats the price the GE registers them as? and since you cant charge more than 3k for them? I dont get it really.

santa hat is 22m on the dot

 

 

 

then you can only sell it for...

 

 

 

21.997m or 22.003m now thats really stupid!!

 

 

 

blue p hat rought ly err 522M??

 

 

 

521.997m to 522.003m

 

 

 

 

 

ahhh this gets worse by the secound

It isn't dead, for item selling and buying it is improved in my opinion.

 

 

 

A fixed price for everything is good, you can buy an item and sell it back a few hours later for the same price easily.

 

 

 

The good ol' USSR would have sure liked you! The trading update actually is a bit like Communism. Prices are fixed, the incomes you get on items are fixed, supply of items (no macro's) is much lower....strange.

What I dont understand is how items are going to fluxuate (Spelling?) in price with the new trading system/GE. Santas are roughly 22m each right now, so does that mean that all rares are stuck at that exact price forever since thats the price the GE registers them as? and since you cant charge more than 3k for them? I dont get it really.

 

 

 

They are "supposedly" prices set by players, though they put limits on items so who really knows if we the players are setting the prices

 

 

 

you can still buy/sell 5% from GE but who knows, with jagex's recent brainstorming sessions they might want to control it completely

 

 

 

the price doesn't change with player to player interactions

 

 

 

though you will have to make a trip to varrock every time you'd want to sell something to see what the new prices are

Trading has gone from a 100% community part of the game to 100% automated, there is simply no contact between people at all when trading in this game now. Which is a shame considering that lvling skills etc in a group isn't really popular in runescape.

 

 

 

This is a massive change to make runescape into a solo game rather than a multiplayer game. You may as well be playing runescape solo while having another browser window open and talking to people in a chatroom.

Trading has gone from a 100% community part of the game to 100% automated, there is simply no contact between people at all when trading in this game now. Which is a shame considering that lvling skills etc in a group isn't really popular in runescape.

 

 

 

This is a massive change to make runescape into a solo game rather than a multiplayer game. You may as well be playing runescape solo while having another browser window open and talking to people in a chatroom.

 

 

 

They might aswell take out the feature to talk.

Trading has gone from a 100% community part of the game to 100% automated, there is simply no contact between people at all when trading in this game now. Which is a shame considering that lvling skills etc in a group isn't really popular in runescape.

 

 

 

This is a massive change to make runescape into a solo game rather than a multiplayer game. You may as well be playing runescape solo while having another browser window open and talking to people in a chatroom.

 

 

 

And that is what I had done in the 3 years I played the game. 8-)

They are "supposedly" prices set by players, though they put limits on items so who really knows if we the players are setting the prices

 

 

 

you can still buy/sell 5% from GE but who knows, with jagex's recent brainstorming sessions they might want to control it completely

 

 

 

the price doesn't change with player to player interactions

 

 

 

though you will have to make a trip to varrock every time you'd want to sell something to see what the new prices are

 

 

 

Exactly. I would have no problem with any of these recent updates if the Grand Exchange worked the way it was susposed to. They put values on everything, some were right, some were wrong. If they updated the prices everyday, on every item, the items would eventually get to the actual prices. Some hard to sell items have not had a price update since the release of the GE. Let the GE work the way we were told it would work. Instead Jagex is putting artifical values on items and not updating them to stay with the markets. The GE is great, just update your prices to match what is actually happening in the market.

Grand exchange is the ruin for what was once the greatest way to achieve money. Merchanting. What I mostly dont understand is what the wild has to do with botters... if that is what the change was for. if its to stop them from going to the wild and getting killed to get the cash to people then now they can just do it through the duel arena... I dont get it. Personally i am happy that the bots are gone, but at what expense? goodbye merchanting for money, goodbye pking for fun and money, hello price regulation and almost no risk.

 

 

 

shame jagex :shame: shame...

 

 

 

If anyone knows of a place with a petition to change the wild back, i would like to sign it.

It isn't dead, for item selling and buying it is improved in my opinion.

 

 

 

A fixed price for everything is good, you can buy an item and sell it back a few hours later for the same price easily.

Tell that to the former Soviet Union...

 

We don't have Decemberween on MY planet.

 

Well, whadda ya know? What DO you have on your planet?!?

 

Expensive Gasoline... Long lines for bread...

 

 

 

The quote above is from Homestarruner and reflects the economic turmoil that the USSR suffered DUE to their price controls. But this is just a game so things shouldn't get that bad right?... RIGHT?!?!

Grand exchange is the ruin for what was once the greatest way to achieve money. Merchanting. What I mostly dont understand is what the wild has to do with botters... if that is what the change was for. if its to stop them from going to the wild and getting killed to get the cash to people then now they can just do it through the duel arena... I dont get it. Personally i am happy that the bots are gone, but at what expense? goodbye merchanting for money, goodbye pking for fun and money, hello price regulation and almost no risk.

 

 

 

shame jagex :shame: shame...

 

 

 

If anyone knows of a place with a petition to change the wild back, i would like to sign it.

 

The Grand Exchange didn't ruin merchanting at all on its own. I could merchant fine after it came out.

 

 

 

On the other hand, the recent updates definitely killed merchanting (almost) and pking. Merchanting will still exist but it will be limited a bit after updates.

I wonder where they're going to put the gulags?

I wonder where they're going to put the gulags?

What is this gulags of which you speak? Is it a meaty polish pastry?

I'm quite sure it will still be possible to merchant.

 

If they keep the GE like it is, with the 5% diff. you can still make large profits. You can make a maximum of 10% profit. If you invest a few M, that becomes quite a bit.

 

 

 

Magekillr claims he can make 20m a day with GE. I believe him. Buying VERY large bulk (i'm talking about millions of items) is very easy now. Selling them too. 5 gp price difference aint much. But if you multiply that by 1 million, youve got yourself a nice 5M profit.

 

Want to try it out? Go to GE, put in 500m, and look to buy 1m, uhmm, say yew logs. After a day or so, you will have them.

 

Then sell them for 5gp more than you bought them. Might take a bit longer, but still. 5M profit, no hassle at all.

 

 

 

With the 3k trade limit, this might work even better. Because of the limit, everybody will be FORCED to use the GE (unless you want to be forced to sell your 10k natures 275 each on the dot, and not, say, 270 each). So you will get your mass amount of materials really fast (and resell it really fast too).

 

 

 

What i'm curious about, is rares. Rares have always been something special, easily manipulated, cause there are so few. With the GE, it will become really impersonal, you dont see how many are sold, how many buyers there are etc...

 

hmmm :-)

Jagex states that they will still let the economy go by itself and let the players decide the price...how will they control the economy when they can only vary the price of a party hat for example which is over 150million, 3k gp.

Jagex states that they will still let the economy go by itself and let the players decide the price...how will they control the economy when they can only vary the price of a party hat for example which is over 150million, 3k gp.

 

Well it will vary 3k from the min and max GE prices, which would be 5% from the average price.

 

 

 

But they're still controlling it.

Trading has gone from a 100% community part of the game to 100% automated, there is simply no contact between people at all when trading in this game now. Which is a shame considering that lvling skills etc in a group isn't really popular in runescape.

 

 

 

This is a massive change to make runescape into a solo game rather than a multiplayer game. You may as well be playing runescape solo while having another browser window open and talking to people in a chatroom.

 

 

 

They might aswell take out the feature to talk.

 

 

 

 

 

With their awesome cencor system, soon everything will be "*** **** *** *** ****** **** ** ** **********"

What do you guys think about the idea of allowing FULLY UNRESTRICTED TRADES in select areas, such as within 7 paces of a banker, but closely monitored when a transaction generates a large profit (or when the sum of profits generated from trades exceeds a set number)? Or perhaps of being allowed to freely trade certain TYPES of items in certain areas?

 

 

 

Implemented properly, I think this could work pretty well- at least, compared to what's about to happen.

Player to player trading is not dead, just changed. Basically you will no longer be able to make exhorbitant profits at the expense of other players lack of knowledge of the market, which IMO is a scam anyway.

 

 

 

As for the GE - give it time. Prices will rise eventually. It's just that a lot of people still have the get rich quick mindset. What you need now is patience. If everyone put their items for sale at the maximum price and waited until they are sold (may take a day or two) this will be recognised by the GE which will then up the market price.

 

 

 

At the moment people are still clearing out rubbish from their banks and, to get a quick sale are pricing everything at the lowest price, so, at the moment the GE is continually lowering prices.

 

 

 

What has died is player to player MERCHANTING. The only way to merchant in future will be to use the fluctuations in GE prices to make a profit. Just do as some one suggested, but very large quantities of something you think will rise in price with a few days, and keep them until prices start to rise - you will eventually make a tidy profit. What the update has stopped is your abilty to get rich quick.

With price restrictions on the horizen, maybe chat might get the axe next. Consider the amount of spam and rule breaking cursing involved, JaGex might set there lasers to "decimate without regards for life, limb, property, or human dignity." In other words, our merry little chat system may be replaced with predesigned chat messages. Think Toon Town or Club Penguin.

Not to offend or become to philosophical over a game, but you people deal far too much in the absolutes.

 

 

 

Why do you believe that this is set in stone?

 

 

 

Why cant it be fixed?

 

 

 

It can be fixed, and in my opinion it will...

 

 

 

However, it will take jagax a little while to realize this.

 

 

 

This update is HUGE, so I wuould be amazed if they didnt look after it and try to fix it once it has gone awry...

LOL, just noticed this whole GE subject sounds earily close to the stock market...