RWT isn't dead.

[user1991]

it sorta works like the old wilderness. customer kills the seller and takes the items, now of course he has the "can't leave" penalty and cannot leave the arena. thats what Jagex was trying to do: trap the gold buyer in the arena so they can hopefully get killed. however, now it seems the gold sellers simply bring a massive army of gold farmers in the arena to protect the buyer until the penalty wears off.

 

 

 

While I'd agree this method would work, with a more limited amount of BH worlds and a more limited area (the BH itself) to work in, it's much easier to oversee and catch such acts now.

 

 

 

If such acts are indeed taking place right now, Jagex may be allowing it in the short term because it gives them a good list of offenders to clean up in one sweep, both the gold farmers themselves and the buyers. Would be good for pr, send a fairly effective message out to the buyers at the same time.

 

 

 

All in all, my opinion towards all these "OMG, RWT still exists!" threads is that they are basically propaganda attempting to convince Jagex to change back to the old system. That will not happen. They may change to a new system in the future, especially to placate the PvP, but they will never go back to the old system. And whatever system they will be going to, it will take time to get there. A 1000 threads by people missing their thrill of staking or killing another person in PvP won't hurry that process.

 

 

 

Did you even read what I posted? About 11 posts ago I linked to a suggestion on how to fix this, not revert it.. This isn't the first world war - "propaganda" Are you forreal?

 

 

 

Is that the real fook a ji btw? If it is, when did you get out? I remember you saying you got sent down for bank robbery, dang man..

 

 

 

Maybe I overreacted to that flamer, but I dont think you can seriously say that Jagex have done a good job here. They hurt RWT whatever, they could have done it in so many better ways. And I AM suggesting.. And I have cancelled my members, so I hope noone comes at me with the "don't like it then leave" attitude. Fact is I recognize this is a game, and truthfully while I'm not too bothered if people buy gold, I can understand how it messes things up - hell thanks to RWT we've lost a good part of RS here.. I'm not a hyper, I havent been around all the forums posting about RWT still happening or whatever, its just this isnt just a "few" trades as people seem to think. Yet when I post this, instead of people being actually surprised that you can still buy a high amount of cash with not too much risk for only slightly more than previously, they seem to flame me, as if I'm flaming Jagex or something. It isn't like that. While I may not agree with how they've done things, I get why they did it.. A lot of people got caught in the crossfire is all, and imo, that's not too cool you know. This whole summoning thing two months after the 2nd biggest update RS has ever seen? It's kinda ugh.. weird. It feels like they haven't properly dealt with RWT yet, you naw mean?

[qeltar]

It feels like they haven't properly dealt with RWT yet, you naw mean?

 

 

 

Not really, no.

 

 

 

This thread is on its fourth page and I *still* don't get what its point is. If you're just trying to say that some RWT is still going on, or that Jagex could have done a better job, I doubt anyone will disagree. But MOST of it is gone, and more importantly, the type that involves gold farmers using stolen credit cards to pay for is gone. And that was Jagex's goal.

[MicroLegionnaire]

The update made it extremely difficult, if not downright impossible to transfer gold from gold selling sites to buyers.

 

 

 

The bounty hunter method is still extremely risky. Say a level 100 clan decides to pop up halfway through the trade?? Godswords cost a couple hundred real US dollars. The real life loss would be pretty big. And what if they decided to rip you off and kill you once they received your money??

 

 

 

Good medicine never tasted fantastic.

[mugged99]

How disturbingly ironic

 

 

 

This is the same method i thought of on the 2nd day after the new wilderness.

 

 

 

could it be that...nah nvm

 

 

 

OT: Well that's just horrible...they still alive; but at least its nearly impossible now and depends on luck.

 

 

 

I guess they will always be here if we have player to player interaction (lol)

[Silver_Corner]

It feels like they haven't properly dealt with RWT yet, you naw mean?

 

 

 

Not really, no.

 

 

 

This thread is on its fourth page and I *still* don't get what its point is. If you're just trying to say that some RWT is still going on, or that Jagex could have done a better job, I doubt anyone will disagree. But MOST of it is gone, and more importantly, the type that involves gold farmers using stolen credit cards to pay for is gone. And that was Jagex's goal.

 

 

 

Exatly.

 

And who's to say they are done? Jagex didnt say, oh so we've made these updates so were gunna stop fighting against RWT now. Im sure they are still working on other transitions and solutions, but as you know it takes a long time to code content into the game.

 

 

 

They cant just come up with giant ideas and recode them overnight, it simply dosent work like that. Would you rather have them make small solutions slowly killing out RWT, or wait Three Years from now to add contect that solves everything?

 

 

 

After reviewing this thread, I still see the only point your making (TheTrueNoob) is that RWT still exists. duh.

 

 

 

Every step they take to remove RWT, If its 1 or 1000 of them, is a step in the right direction. We just had our first battle, but the war is still long from over. All your doing is simply arguing a concept that is already known.

 

 

 

Oh, and about the whole loss of customers. What company in their right mind is going to tell you when/if they lost business. If a company says oh not many people are buying now, that makes customers uneasy about purchasing, so they lie and say that sales havent slowed to assure customers. Bascially.. its a lie.

 

 

 

If you think that Jagex is sacraficing content you cant live without, and you dont enjoy the game anymore because all you can do is complain about how they could have done better, dont play.

 

 

 

How many Runescapers does it take to change a lightbulb?

 

50,000.

 

One to change the bulb, and 49,999 to complain about how the old bulb was better, and how they could have changed it better themselves.

[kratmus]

lol macroes is not gone.. i meet over 100 in crafting guild the last few day

[Darkan420]

 

Oh, and about the whole loss of customers. What company in their right mind is going to tell you when/if they lost business. If a company says oh not many people are buying now, that makes customers uneasy about purchasing, so they lie and say that sales havent slowed to assure customers. Bascially.. its a lie.

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

 

 

"We haven't had a slowdown, buying mils is as easy as ever" sounds waaaay better in a sales pitch than "it's actually getting pretty hard to find ways around it, we're able to, but just know there's a better chance we can't or you'll get caught."

 

 

 

lol macroes is not gone.. i meet over 100 in crafting guild the last few day

 

 

 

Who's talking about macroing? And of course that isn't gone. The programs themselves aren't affected by the trade limits or anything else inside the game because all they do is click your mouse.

 

 

 

Even then, the amount of macroers has been cut drastically because they don't have anywhere to move their goods before they're banned, which just makes all the botting they did pretty pointless.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

I really think we should weigh the options here. Do we want a game with minimal goldfarming but minimal ingenuity and enjoyment? Or do you want a game that operates in much the way it did before, with some goldfarming but not quite as much as before?

 

 

 

I think the choice is pretty clear, at least for me. Goldfarming did not need to be destroyed, just minimized. With trade restrictions and a PvP restriction system in place, it would be easy to return the Wilderness nearly to its original state without as much of the problem we had before. All I ask of Jagex is that they try something like what I've proposed, and if that becomes an issue, then by all means revert back to what we have now.

 

 

 

Priorities, people- that's what we need to get straight.

[BBC3]

they are just getting rid of the last of their reserves of money before they move onto another game, i doubt they will try to make money again.

 

 

 

after they get rid of the millions of gps in bh not because theres no risk to it but because they have nothing to lose by trying to get rid of the money.

 

 

 

after this they will all sell their accounts and who ever buys the accounts get banned anyway.

[PennState4lyfe]

other mmos have no problem with this, they even have a mail system on warcraft where you SEND PACKAGES to people. ROFL JAGEX! GF!

[Ravenkana]

It feels like they haven't properly dealt with RWT yet, you naw mean?

 

 

 

Not really, no.

 

 

 

This thread is on its fourth page and I *still* don't get what its point is. If you're just trying to say that some RWT is still going on, or that Jagex could have done a better job, I doubt anyone will disagree. But MOST of it is gone, and more importantly, the type that involves gold farmers using stolen credit cards to pay for is gone. And that was Jagex's goal.

 

 

 

Exatly.

 

And who's to say they are done? Jagex didnt say, oh so we've made these updates so were gunna stop fighting against RWT now. Im sure they are still working on other transitions and solutions, but as you know it takes a long time to code content into the game.

 

 

 

They cant just come up with giant ideas and recode them overnight, it simply dosent work like that. Would you rather have them make small solutions slowly killing out RWT, or wait Three Years from now to add contect that solves everything?

 

 

 

After reviewing this thread, I still see the only point your making (TheTrueNoob) is that RWT still exists. duh.

 

 

 

Every step they take to remove RWT, If its 1 or 1000 of them, is a step in the right direction. We just had our first battle, but the war is still long from over. All your doing is simply arguing a concept that is already known.

 

 

 

Oh, and about the whole loss of customers. What company in their right mind is going to tell you when/if they lost business. If a company says oh not many people are buying now, that makes customers uneasy about purchasing, so they lie and say that sales havent slowed to assure customers. Bascially.. its a lie.

 

 

 

If you think that Jagex is sacraficing content you cant live without, and you dont enjoy the game anymore because all you can do is complain about how they could have done better, dont play.

 

 

 

How many Runescapers does it take to change a lightbulb?

 

50,000.

 

One to change the bulb, and 49,999 to complain about how the old bulb was better, and how they could have changed it better themselves.

Of course... Considering Jagex announced that they had been working on these update for a year... You would think they would have been a little better, ya ken?

[Georgelemmons]

How are they selling gold exactly? And jagex monitors ip adresses. If someone suddenly started logging in 2000 miles away from where they usually do, that might set off some warning flags in jagex's system.

 

 

 

Im pretty sure that IPs have nothing to do with locations..

[Silver_Corner]

How are they selling gold exactly? And jagex monitors ip adresses. If someone suddenly started logging in 2000 miles away from where they usually do, that might set off some warning flags in jagex's system.

 

 

 

Im pretty sure that IPs have nothing to do with locations..

 

 

 

O Rly?

 

 

 

Then try this link (It is a safe link, check the bottom of your screen as you hover over it to see the link address if you dont feel it is safe.)

 

 

 

http://www.ip-adress.com/

 

 

 

It traces your IP to show your exact location, and stastical information about what internet you are using, your connection, and your browser. You can do alot with your IP adress, and you should never share it with anyone unless you trust them.

[Wallettheif]

O Rly?

 

 

 

Then try this link (It is a safe link, check the bottom of your screen as you hover over it to see the link address if you dont feel it is safe.)

 

 

 

http://www.ip-adress.com/

 

 

 

It traces your IP to show your exact location, and stastical information about what internet you are using, your connection, and your browser. You can do alot with your IP adress, and you should never share it with anyone unless you trust them.

 

It says I live in Alaska, when I'm currently living in northern Wisconsin... WTF?