What is wrong with "buying" skills?

[muggiwhplar]

the only 2 capes that show real skill to me now are the fire cape and the quest cape. Both demonstrate the ability to not stand in one place and left + right click over and over again.

 

 

 

RS has never been a matter of skill though - the fight caves is the only part of RS which tests your personal skill to do something. Even then, it's a pretty simple test to pass.

[BoD]

 

 

 

But yet most people use guides on quests.

 

 

 

at least it demonstrates your ability to read :thumbsup:

 

while cooking on the other hand...

[CampbellMC]

the only 2 capes that show real skill to me now are the fire cape and the quest cape. Both demonstrate the ability to not stand in one place and left + right click over and over again.

 

 

 

What about slayer? It has more movement and variety than both of those put together and done three times.

[BoD]

 

RS has never been a matter of skill though - the fight caves is the only part of RS which tests your personal skill to do something. Even then, it's a pretty simple test to pass.

 

 

 

the sole purpose of jagex putting in the fight caves was a test of skill, this cannot be argued

 

 

 

that is why i admire fire capes, ya it is easy, but it still shows that you killed the big baddie of rs

 

 

 

and sure ill throw slayer in there as well, not that i disregarded it i just didnt think of it.

[tortilliachp]

the fact that the discussion even pops up, is in my mind unfathomable.

 

 

 

Runescape is a game. you play games for fun. if someone enjoys themselves more in their free time "buying skills" or whatever else they do, that is completely 100% up to them.

 

 

 

questioning other people's means of having fun, and labling people after judging their interests within the game is not in the spirit of a game.

 

 

 

Don't over-interperate meanings into things within the game. If someone has more fun playing the game in a different way than you, how does that change how you play the game?

[CampbellMC]

 

RS has never been a matter of skill though - the fight caves is the only part of RS which tests your personal skill to do something. Even then, it's a pretty simple test to pass.

 

 

 

the sole purpose of jagex putting in the fight caves was a test of skill, this cannot be argued

 

 

 

that is why i admire fire capes, ya it is easy, but it still shows that you killed the big baddie of rs

 

 

 

and sure ill throw slayer in there as well, not that i disregarded it i just didnt think of it.

 

 

 

Keep in mind that probably 50% of people when pking was out bought their fire capes off other players (eg transferred 2 mill for another person to do it on their account). Quite a while ago I actually did fire capes for people, I only did about 7 and then stopped, but even then I still got people asking me to do their's for weeks after every day, and I still get people asking me atleast once a week to do it for them.

[Bouwzie]

I am currently getting 99 herblore, and I got 3 hateful comments from 99 herblorists so far. All 3 came down to the same thing: "Lol, you didn't farm your herbs, get out." I worked my [wagon] of to get the money for 99 heblore, and I most likely still don't have enough for it. I ofcourse did farm a little, so that I have to spend less. Low budget ftl/ftw. Low budget makes the game more interesting, high budget makes it easier.

[muggiwhplar]

Keep in mind that probably 50% of people when pking was out bought their fire capes off other players (eg transferred 2 mill for another person to do it on their account). Quite a while ago I actually did fire capes for people, I only did about 7 and then stopped, but even then I still got people asking me to do their's for weeks after every day, and I still get people asking me atleast once a week to do it for them.

 

 

 

Yeah, a TON of people PM me about doing fire capes for them... IT'S NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE

 

 

 

the fact that the discussion even pops up, is in my mind unfathomable.

 

 

 

Runescape is a game. you play games for fun. if someone enjoys themselves more in their free time "buying skills" or whatever else they do, that is completely 100% up to them.

 

 

 

questioning other people's means of having fun, and labling people after judging their interests within the game is not in the spirit of a game.

 

 

 

Don't over-interperate meanings into things within the game. If someone has more fun playing the game in a different way than you, how does that change how you play the game?

 

 

 

Exactly

 

 

 

I am currently getting 99 herblore, and I got 3 hateful comments from 99 herblorists so far. All 3 came down to the same thing: "Lol, you didn't farm your herbs, get out." I worked my [wagon] of to get the money for 99 heblore, and I most likely still don't have enough for it. I ofcourse did farm a little, so that I have to spend less. Low budget ftl/ftw. Low budget makes the game more interesting, high budget makes it easier.

 

 

 

If you have a lot of money to start out with, look into buying massive amounts of grimy kwuarm/ranarr/snapdragon then cleaning them and selling for profit. It's only efficient if you can afford enough herbs to clean for like an hour at a time

[BoD]

 

Keep in mind that probably 50% of people when pking was out bought their fire capes off other players (eg transferred 2 mill for another person to do it on their account). Quite a while ago I actually did fire capes for people, I only did about 7 and then stopped, but even then I still got people asking me to do their's for weeks after every day, and I still get people asking me atleast once a week to do it for them.

 

 

 

kudos to you and all others who sold their firecapes because...

 

they made good money in something that they worked hard to achieve. sounds like you were acknowledged for you skill in the fight caves and because of it you could make a profit, or better yet

 

for fun...

 

 

 

 

 

at least half the people with firecapes from tip.it now used muggi's guide and now he is praised for being the jad master. to bad they dont give a skill cape for respect...

 

 

 

 

 

edit* cause of muggi's guide i could have oneshot jad...sadly i overestimated jad and underestimated the healers. im thinking of goin for 80 range before the next attempt

[CampbellMC]

Over half of people did not use muggi's guide, maybe half from tip.it but not half of rs. There are other fan sites bigger than tip.it that have their own guides. Not to mention probably half of people got their capes from buying off other people.

[muggiwhplar]

Over half of people did not use muggi's guide, maybe half from tip.it but not half of rs. There are other fan sites bigger than tip.it that have their own guides. Not to mention probably half of people got their capes from buying off other people.

 

 

 

Yeah my old caves guide was posted on Runescape Community... but then when I tried to post the new guide (guide to the whole caves w/o guthans) they wouldn't allow it because they already had a caves guide (and it was mine..)

 

 

 

So I said to hell w/ them and posted on tipit lol

 

 

 

But yea back then only RSC people knew of me, and now it's mostly just tipit people

 

 

 

Wonder what'd happen if I posted all the vid guides on youtube >_>

[jonstark7x8]

I have absolutely no problems with buying skills.

 

 

 

It takes a lot of time to make the money, and some people find grinding for skills fun.

 

 

 

Personally, I was using your spot in MM tuns over the past week prior to the update :P. However, I was rudely interrupted en route to 99 by a certain update :roll: .

[Michael]

Whatever way you look at anything, there'll always be someone to whine about it.

[muggiwhplar]

Whatever way you look at anything, there'll always be someone to whine about it.

 

 

 

Yes but for something like this, the majority of this forum whines about it. My goal is to make them realize that there's nothing wrong with buying skills.

[DarkDude]

The reason I got 99 range was because it was my favourite skill and I enjoyed training it - I didn't get it as an accomplishment - I got it because I want to. The point I was trying to make is a lot of people just get it for a 99 - thus making it "worthless".

 

 

 

All 17.5 or however much Range xp i have has gotten without even touching a chin, and I don't plan to.

 

 

 

Atleast people who use chins to get 99 range are actually doing *some* sort of ranging, unlike people who got it with PC, the most unbalanced training method in the history of RS. No money needed to spend - no risk a very high reward.

 

 

 

Fair enough if you chinned to 99 if you plan to use it - It's just people who use chins just to get "another 99".

[hellbellz]

Also it's just sad that that person can't stand doing it the 'right' way.

 

There is NO damn "right" way to do a skill. You're supposed to do the most efficient method, and if you have money chinning was the way to go, but if you're stubborn you could just train the "old fashioned" way. You shouldn't make the journey harder on yourself. And you're the one to be talking about grinding. :lol:

 

 

 

Also, darkdude98, people used chins because they wanted to, they wanted 99 ranged, just like you, but they wanted to train with some chins rather than a bow and arrow.

 

 

 

One more thing, Muggi, you said this forum whines about people buying their skills, RSC do much of that? I havn't browsed the general RS board there often enough to see their opinions.

[DarkDude]

 

Also, darkdude98, people used chins because they wanted to, they wanted 99 ranged, just like you, but they wanted to train with some chins rather than a bow and arrow.

 

 

 

 

I didn't "want" 99 range - I got there by training a skill I enjoyed. If people (Such as muggi) get 99 range because they're going to use it - then fair enough, but it's people who get 99 range just to go along with their fletching and cooking capes.

[muggiwhplar]

One more thing, Muggi, you said this forum whines about people buying their skills, RSC do much of that? I havn't browsed the general RS board there often enough to see their opinions.

 

 

 

I'm not a regular visitor there anymore *shrug*

 

 

 

I didn't "want" 99 range - I got there by training a skill I enjoyed. If people (Such as muggi) get 99 range because they're going to use it - then fair enough, but it's people who get 99 range just to go along with their fletching and cooking capes.

 

 

 

Yes, but unlike cooking and fletching, range is a skill that most people get to 99 to use

[Chained_life]

I can go to sara right now and get 43mil split or so because of luck.

 

 

 

Ah so spending 1 hour at GWD gets me 99 range, and others are supposed to feel good about it when they spent years at 99 range?

 

 

 

What I don't like is people mocking me and laughing at my skills because they aren't as good as theirs. And generally those are people that PCd their stats, AFKd somewhere, "bought it" with their luck money. I've killed 450+ Metals with one d skirt, I've gone to 2 rex trips with no drops, I've done 150+ level 3s with the best thing being a black cav, I've opened 600+ barrows chests, the most costly item being dharok helm.

 

 

 

Most I've "risked" at barrows : 20mil

 

Most I've "risked" at Dks: 14mil

 

Most I've risked at metals: 9mil

 

 

 

while I'm doing this a level 93 with 68 range, risking 10k in gear goes to metals gets a visage on the second kill, gets 99 range and calls me a noob.

 

 

 

I'm not jealous I'm pissed off.

[x1992x]

I can go to sara right now and get 43mil split or so because of luck.

 

 

 

Ah so spending 1 hour at GWD gets me 99 range, and others are supposed to feel good about it when they spent years at 99 range?

 

 

 

What I don't like is people mocking me and laughing at my skills because they aren't as good as theirs. And generally those are people that PCd their stats, AFKd somewhere, "bought it" with their luck money. I've killed 450+ Metals with one d skirt, I've gone to 2 rex trips with no drops, I've done 150+ level 3s with the best thing being a black cav, I've opened 600+ barrows chests, the most costly item being dharok helm.

 

 

 

Most I've "risked" at barrows : 20mil

 

Most I've "risked" at Dks: 14mil

 

Most I've risked at metals: 9mil

 

 

 

while I'm doing this a level 93 with 68 range, risking 10k in gear goes to metals gets a visage on the second kill, gets 99 range and calls me a noob.

 

 

 

I'm not jealous I'm pissed off.

 

 

 

qouted for truth and because i got even worse luck then him -.-

[Zygimantas]

I can go to sara right now and get 43mil split or so because of luck.

 

 

 

Ah so spending 1 hour at GWD gets me 99 range, and others are supposed to feel good about it when they spent years at 99 range?

 

 

 

What I don't like is people mocking me and laughing at my skills because they aren't as good as theirs. And generally those are people that PCd their stats, AFKd somewhere, "bought it" with their luck money. I've killed 450+ Metals with one d skirt, I've gone to 2 rex trips with no drops, I've done 150+ level 3s with the best thing being a black cav, I've opened 600+ barrows chests, the most costly item being dharok helm.

 

 

 

Most I've "risked" at barrows : 20mil

 

Most I've "risked" at Dks: 14mil

 

Most I've risked at metals: 9mil

 

 

 

while I'm doing this a level 93 with 68 range, risking 10k in gear goes to metals gets a visage on the second kill, gets 99 range and calls me a noob.

 

 

 

I'm not jealous I'm pissed off.

Your not risking anything, you have a grave you can get your items back.

[Zygimantas]

 

 

 

But yet most people use guides on quests.

 

 

 

at least it demonstrates your ability to read :thumbsup:

 

while cooking on the other hand...

I think a blind person can get 99 cooking, no seriously i'm going to try cooking blindfolded :thumbsup:

[muggiwhplar]

I can go to sara right now and get 43mil split or so because of luck.

 

 

 

Ah so spending 1 hour at GWD gets me 99 range, and others are supposed to feel good about it when they spent years at 99 range?

 

 

 

What I don't like is people mocking me and laughing at my skills because they aren't as good as theirs. And generally those are people that PCd their stats, AFKd somewhere, "bought it" with their luck money. I've killed 450+ Metals with one d skirt, I've gone to 2 rex trips with no drops, I've done 150+ level 3s with the best thing being a black cav, I've opened 600+ barrows chests, the most costly item being dharok helm.

 

 

 

Most I've "risked" at barrows : 20mil

 

Most I've "risked" at Dks: 14mil

 

Most I've risked at metals: 9mil

 

 

 

while I'm doing this a level 93 with 68 range, risking 10k in gear goes to metals gets a visage on the second kill, gets 99 range and calls me a noob.

 

 

 

I'm not jealous I'm pissed off.

 

 

 

I think you and everyone else would be a lot happier/less bitter if you quit letting other people's luck/achievements bother you or get in the way of your own goals

[Obtaurian]

I have no opinion one way or the other when it comes to how a person trains any one skill. If they spend 150m to get 99 Smithing, then so be it. If they mine every ore, then that works too. It all just depends on what's more important to you.

 

 

 

I, however, train my skills only when I need to use them. If I need food, I fish and cook, if I need potions, I throw them together. I also train skills when I need to reach a higher level in order to use something or do a certain quest.

 

 

 

My favorite skills are Slayer, Summoning, Farming, and Mining. I regularly train these skills because I find them to be fun and relaxing. Combat is my favorite aspect of the game, and so the only 99's that I'm actively pursuing are Slayer and all other combat skills.

 

 

 

In conclusion: do what you need to do, and have fun doing it. If spending that 150m on Smithing is fun for you, then by all means. Just don't forget to have fun.

[amoeba_009]

A 99 is supposed to be an accomplishment not for showing off tbh. Chinning is not an accomplishment you put such little work into such a great output. A 99 should be something you enjoy too and if you enjoy chinning go ahead and do that for 20M range xp since you enjoy it so much. Also it's just sad that that person can't stand doing it the 'right' way. Sure you save time which is money but you had absolutely no fun and there is where you fail at life when you take this game so seriously you'll do anything to get a level as fast as you can. I swear most of us started this game for fun and yet some turn away from that and grind to be better than their friend or beat their friend or the same for someone on the Hiscores. Frankly it's just sad sometimes.

 

 

 

Maybe chinning is someones idea of fun. And who are you to judge them?! :shame:

 

 

 

I can go to sara right now and get 43mil split or so because of luck.

 

 

 

Ah so spending 1 hour at GWD gets me 99 range, and others are supposed to feel good about it when they spent years at 99 range?

 

 

 

What I don't like is people mocking me and laughing at my skills because they aren't as good as theirs. And generally those are people that PCd their stats, AFKd somewhere, "bought it" with their luck money. I've killed 450+ Metals with one d skirt, I've gone to 2 rex trips with no drops, I've done 150+ level 3s with the best thing being a black cav, I've opened 600+ barrows chests, the most costly item being dharok helm.

 

 

 

Most I've "risked" at barrows : 20mil

 

Most I've "risked" at Dks: 14mil

 

Most I've risked at metals: 9mil

 

 

 

while I'm doing this a level 93 with 68 range, risking 10k in gear goes to metals gets a visage on the second kill, gets 99 range and calls me a noob.

 

 

 

I'm not jealous I'm pissed off.

 

 

 

Sounds like you need to realise its a game. If you really loathe everything you do to make money so much, quit, or find some way to make it fun, it is a game afterall.