What is wrong with "buying" skills?

[TriangleNub]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

QFT!

[Sdnthirty]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

QFT!

 

 

 

 

 

huh?

[Zygimantas]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

uhh.. yea it does, it takes alot more time to make the money for skills like herblore and construction compared to little time for fletching, cooking makeing them harder/ longer skills to get a 99 in.

[IeatWindex]

How much is 99 cooking? 2M? Rofl.

 

 

 

Id get more respect wearing full Zammy in F2P then having 99 cooking.

[muggiwhplar]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

 

 

 

You forget the time and/or effort it takes to get 200M+ to afford those capes

[Sdnthirty]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

 

 

 

You forget the time and/or effort it takes to get 200M+ to afford those capes

 

 

 

Go GWD for a week theres your 200m

[Brolly04]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

 

 

 

You forget the time and/or effort it takes to get 200M+ to afford those capes

 

 

 

Go GWD for a week theres your 200m

 

 

 

Isn't that the truth.IMO, I don't think buying a skill is harmful. I just think it takes a little bit of the fun out of the game. I enjoy the game trying to collect what I want to level up.

[tuggernongy]

hey guys. :) Going out of lurking to add something, as someone who loves being efficient, that has no 99's, i can probably add something. :P I have nothing against buying up skills, i do it myself, using cash vs time saved to figure what i can realistically afford. It's all about living within your means, once you figure that time is money.... And the beauty of it is, you can usually afford to step over the line, since cash builds up over time, what with kingdom, random slayer drops, and whatever else you make without intending to. :P

[hohto]

hohto, no training in Runescape is hard, skills only show how much free time you spend on the computer.

 

 

 

Ok, if we get into this, let's change the sentence a bit:

 

A skill that takes a lot time, constant clicking, got the habit to bore you to death and wastes other resources from your real life.

 

 

 

We both know skilling isn't hard in the very meaning of the word, but that on certain things you have to go across higher mental barries (compare, training rc for 12 hours nonstop to training cooking for 12 hours nonstop), do more clicking and waste more time on them. If you got a better word to use, please inform me and I can happily start using another word that can describe the challenges in skilling and still be understood by the majority.

[Dboy65]

The only skill i have ever bought was last night when i went from 57 to 60 prayer on a gilded altar.there is nothing wrong with "Buying skills" as long as you do the work yourself you deserve the levels!

[muggiwhplar]

I think it is bs that 99 fletch and cook get flame to detah if posted but 99 cons and herb and smith and craft and other buyables get 10/10 99 herb takes like a week if you got money cons same thing craft and farming is also same way. Just cuz it costs more doesnt mean tis better 99

 

 

 

You forget the time and/or effort it takes to get 200M+ to afford those capes

 

 

 

Go GWD for a week theres your 200m

 

 

 

Yeah good luck getting 10 arma/sara hilts in one week lol

[kwarlord]

Even if you have the money to buy the runes/logs/range supplies/ herblore supplies, those skills are still not as honerable as a skill that you CAN'T buy.

 

(i.e. slayer, summoning, farming, theiving)

 

you are going to work hard for those mentioned skills no matter what you do. When I see one of those skill capes, it makes me want to applause. =D> =D> =D>

[Troacctid]

Even if you have the money to buy the runes/logs/range supplies/ herblore supplies, those skills are still not as honerable as a skill that you CAN'T buy.

 

(i.e. slayer, summoning, farming, theiving)

 

you are going to work hard for those mentioned skills no matter what you do. When I see one of those skill capes, it makes me want to applause. =D> =D> =D>

 

So thieving is more work than firemaking? Isn't that a little silly? Considering that thieving is faster to get to 99. :roll:

 

 

 

I don't know how you think of "buying" skills, but you don't just pay a genie 110m gp and instantly get 99 prayer. :lol:

[kwarlord]

Even if you have the money to buy the runes/logs/range supplies/ herblore supplies, those skills are still not as honerable as a skill that you CAN'T buy.

 

(i.e. slayer, summoning, farming, theiving)

 

you are going to work hard for those mentioned skills no matter what you do. When I see one of those skill capes, it makes me want to applause. =D> =D> =D>

 

So thieving is more work than firemaking? Isn't that a little silly? Considering that thieving is faster to get to 99. :roll:

 

 

 

I don't know how you think of "buying" skills, but you don't just pay a genie 110m gp and instantly get 99 prayer. :lol:

 

 

 

it may be faster...in some ways, but at least you didn't "cheat" your way by buying a bunch of logs to burn.

 

 

 

no, what you do is BUY BONES to get to lvl 99! doh!

[Troacctid]

Even if you have the money to buy the runes/logs/range supplies/ herblore supplies, those skills are still not as honerable as a skill that you CAN'T buy.

 

(i.e. slayer, summoning, farming, theiving)

 

you are going to work hard for those mentioned skills no matter what you do. When I see one of those skill capes, it makes me want to applause. =D> =D> =D>

 

So thieving is more work than firemaking? Isn't that a little silly? Considering that thieving is faster to get to 99. :roll:

 

 

 

I don't know how you think of "buying" skills, but you don't just pay a genie 110m gp and instantly get 99 prayer. :lol:

 

 

 

it may be faster...in some ways, but at least you didn't "cheat" your way by buying a bunch of logs to burn.

 

 

 

no, what you do is BUY BONES to get to lvl 99! doh!

 

So in other words, you pay a Grand Exchange 110m and instantly get 99 prayer?

 

 

 

And where do you think the money comes from? This isn't real life, where loads of rich people just inherited their fortunes from their families. You can't just instantly get 110m to pay for those bones. In fact, you could get 99 fishing TWICE and still not have that much. So again, another "buyable" skill that takes a lot longer than that other supposedly "non-buyable" skill.

[steveberry05]

people that complain abt "buying" skills are actually ignorant as there are skillsthat require you to "buy" them. Look at construction for instance, there is no "free" way to train this. Peopl need to stop complaining, get necessary skills and work hard to earn the money to make skils easier for them to lvl its simple as that :mrgreen:

[hohto]

it may be faster...in some ways, but at least you didn't "cheat" your way by buying a bunch of logs to burn.

 

 

 

So in the other words it's cheating to support the hardworking woodcutters who aren't buying their way to 99 (even tho they are working a lot less than those who bu... err cheat their way to 99 pray) or spend the money you've gained into a thing that rises your combat level? Well no wonder you still are playing without "cheating" and teaching us how to skill while having no skills 90+. Have fun doing things harder to yourself than they really are, you are the one who suffers from it, not me or anyone else.

[bluehooloovo]

Even if you have the money to buy the runes/logs/range supplies/ herblore supplies, those skills are still not as honerable as a skill that you CAN'T buy.

 

(i.e. slayer, summoning, farming, theiving)

 

you are going to work hard for those mentioned skills no matter what you do. When I see one of those skill capes, it makes me want to applause. =D> =D> =D>

 

So thieving is more work than firemaking? Isn't that a little silly? Considering that thieving is faster to get to 99. :roll:

 

 

 

I don't know how you think of "buying" skills, but you don't just pay a genie 110m gp and instantly get 99 prayer. :lol:

 

 

 

it may be faster...in some ways, but at least you didn't "cheat" your way by buying a bunch of logs to burn.

 

 

 

no, what you do is BUY BONES to get to lvl 99! doh!

 

 

 

So, since your smithing is level 72, I assume you do all you melee fighting in mithril armor with a mithril weapon (or, possibly, an adamant dagger or mace), that you made yourself, right? Because if you buy things to help you train, that's cheating! :shock: Yeah, sounds stupid, doesn't it? So does getting to 99 prayer without buying bones.

[kwarlord]

 

 

 

So, since your smithing is level 72, I assume you do all you melee fighting in mithril armor with a mithril weapon (or, possibly, an adamant dagger or mace), that you made yourself, right? Because if you buy things to help you train, that's cheating! :shock: Yeah, sounds stupid, doesn't it? So does getting to 99 prayer without buying bones.

 

 

 

buying weapons and armour doesn't count. For all you know, I could've fletched my way to lvl 80 and high-alch the bows to get the money (which I did). I didn't buy a single bow and I increased fletching while I was at it to raise the money for my whip/rune/dragon armour.

 

 

 

and getting your bones from the dragons you kill yourself doesn't make you look stupid...it makes you richer.

[Troacctid]

 

 

 

So, since your smithing is level 72, I assume you do all you melee fighting in mithril armor with a mithril weapon (or, possibly, an adamant dagger or mace), that you made yourself, right? Because if you buy things to help you train, that's cheating! :shock: Yeah, sounds stupid, doesn't it? So does getting to 99 prayer without buying bones.

 

 

 

buying weapons and armour doesn't count. For all you know, I could've fletched my way to lvl 80 and high-alch the bows to get the money (which I did). I didn't buy a single bow and I increased fletching while I was at it to raise the money for my whip/rune/dragon armour.

 

 

 

and getting your bones from the dragons you kill yourself doesn't make you look stupid...it makes you richer.

 

It certainly doesn't make you richer if you use them all up yourself.

[kwarlord]

 

 

 

So, since your smithing is level 72, I assume you do all you melee fighting in mithril armor with a mithril weapon (or, possibly, an adamant dagger or mace), that you made yourself, right? Because if you buy things to help you train, that's cheating! :shock: Yeah, sounds stupid, doesn't it? So does getting to 99 prayer without buying bones.

 

 

 

buying weapons and armour doesn't count. For all you know, I could've fletched my way to lvl 80 and high-alch the bows to get the money (which I did). I didn't buy a single bow and I increased fletching while I was at it to raise the money for my whip/rune/dragon armour.

 

 

 

and getting your bones from the dragons you kill yourself doesn't make you look stupid...it makes you richer.

 

It certainly doesn't make you richer if you use them all up yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

sigh...you use the bones you get from the dragons. Are you forgetting that you also get dragonhide/bars AND another item for your kill?....apparently so.

[Mike_Ike111]

I don't know about you all, but I started fletching with just 1k yews I had cut with WC. I got 99 fletching with those logs, selling the products and buying supplies. I gained 12m, then decided to get 99 WC. Once I had 99 WC, I used all the cash from fletching and WC to get 99 cooking with.

 

 

 

None of these skills were bought up in reality. They all started from a single source, which in my case was woodcut.

 

 

 

I think, if you have never received any amount of cash from an outside source (via a free gift before the trade update) then you can not consider a skill to be lesser than another. Money doesn't randomly appear in your bank, therefor the skills you have were not given for free.

[Troacctid]

sigh...you use the bones you get from the dragons. Are you forgetting that you also get dragonhide/bars AND another item for your kill?....apparently so.

 

So what if you sell all the bones and hides, and then three weeks later you buy the same amount of bones and hides and use them to train crafting and prayer? Have you still "bought" those skills? Because you certainly didn't get those materials yourself. You bought them from somebody else, no?

[harbringerjm]

people that complain abt "buying" skills are actually ignorant as there are skillsthat require you to "buy" them. Look at construction for instance, there is no "free" way to train this. Peopl need to stop complaining, get necessary skills and work hard to earn the money to make skils easier for them to lvl its simple as that :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Wrong. Tears of Guthix gets a lot for free, and if you have a lot of time you can do it the really cheap way:

 

Mine ore, make bars and smith nails.

 

Collect planks from spawns.

 

Use the nails and planks to get the level for clay fireplaces.

 

Mine clay and wet it.

 

Use the clay fireplaces to get the level for limestone fireplaces.

 

Mine limestone.

 

Use the limestone to make fireplaces till 99.

 

(note that you can make attack stones later to save time, but since that requires a games room, that may count as buying)

 

 

 

It will take a hell of a long time (Trust me, I got many of my levels with clay and limestone), but it can be done.

 

 

 

Edit: Oops, forgot the cost of a house. Nvm, you can still ToG, lamp, book, etc your way to 99. It will just take longer.

[Numer0_un0]

Time is money.

 

 

 

"Self-Sufficiency" is more like "self-limiting".

 

 

 

Example: Self-sufficient (SS) does this:

 

1. cuts yews

 

2. fletches yews

 

3. picks flax

 

4. spins flax

 

5. strings bows.

 

6. mines pure essence

 

7. crafts nature runes

 

8. alches bows

 

 

 

Total profit: 768 per bow

 

 

 

Time Is Money player does this:

 

1. cuts yews, sells, OR crafts natures.

 

2. ends up with hella lot more money than the bow alching self sufficient player, with which he buys 5 times the bows SS made and alches them all. Lot more magic exp, if training is what TIM (time is money) is after.

 

If he is training fletching or crafting, he could also buy maples/dragonhide/leather and fletch or craft those, still earning a lot more exp than SS.