An ambulance was called and Jake was rushed to Scarborough Hospital, but he was pronounced dead two days later as a result of hanging.

 

 

 

This is the thing that threw me the most. It took two days? Why?

 

 

 

Welcome to America.

 

 

 

An ambulance was called and Jake was rushed to Scarborough Hospital, but he was pronounced dead two days later as a result of hanging.

 

 

 

This is the thing that threw me the most. It took two days? Why?

 

 

 

Welcome to America.

 

 

 

This wasn't in America. Read the article next time.

 

 

 

 

 

This is the thing that threw me the most. It took two days? Why?

 

 

 

Welcome to America.

 

 

 

This wasn't in America. Read the article next time.

 

 

 

:XD:

If he was stupid enough to kill himself as a teenager, then he wouldn't have been a very rational or productive member of society.

 

When the Red Army was standing 100 yards away from his bunker, I suppose Hitler was also irrational to kill himself. He clearly would not have been a productive member of society. The fact he came close to conquering the whole of Europe is neither here nor there.

 

 

 

Suicide is rarely completely rational, but it can be. If you have a psychological report which states otherwise, I'll shut up.

Whatever. I really should've said "Welcome to the Hospital System"

Whatever. I really should've said "Welcome to the Hospital System"

 

It could have been an issue of brain damage from the hanging. He may have technically been alive for two days, but kept on life support. Why so critical on hospitals?

Whatever. I really should've said "Welcome to the Hospital System"

 

It could have been an issue of brain damage from the hanging. He may have technically been alive for two days, but kept on life support. Why so critical on hospitals?

 

 

 

I've heard some hospitals cost, like, $10,000 a night, and the fact that so many people get injured so often that makes me mad because some people cant afford insurance and they have to pay so much just to save someone.

 

 

 

And if someone hasn't been breathing for like, 4 minutes, doesn't that mean they suffocate? And how do you breathe if you're dead?

Doubt that was the only reason.

 

 

Sucks to be him, though.

 

He probably had some mental issues, or as said he was just doing something stupid.

 

 

 

Also did anyone else think of the story of the kid who killed his dad over Myspace?

Whatever. I really should've said "Welcome to the Hospital System"

 

It could have been an issue of brain damage from the hanging. He may have technically been alive for two days, but kept on life support. Why so critical on hospitals?

 

 

 

I've heard some hospitals cost, like, $10,000 a night, and the fact that so many people get injured so often that makes me mad because some people cant afford insurance and they have to pay so much just to save someone.

 

 

 

And if someone hasn't been breathing for like, 4 minutes, doesn't that mean they suffocate? And how do you breathe if you're dead?

 

Health insurance is a mess, but doctors still have to make money. I might think otherwise if they didn't have to spend half a million dollars and a decade of their life working to become a doctor.

 

 

 

I'm not exactly how resuscitation works, but people can be brought back to life in those cases. The problem is when you go for that long without oxygen to the brain, a lot of the brain dies, so there's no reason keeping the body alive.

I've read somewhere that the longest you can go without breathing is like 4 or 5 minutes. So if you haven't been breathing for that long doesnt that make you dead? How did they not find that out?

Suprised the mail didn't try to blame Princess Diana in someway :roll:

 

 

 

Anyway the kid must of been really [bleep]ed up, its just another one of those cases where the media will find any tiny shread of evidence that computer games ruin peoples lives and are no good for anyone, so bloody stupid :wall: .

I've read somewhere that the longest you can go without breathing is like 4 or 5 minutes. So if you haven't been breathing for that long doesnt that make you dead? How did they not find that out?

 

Yeah, I'm really not sure anymore. I just read that after 6 minutes without oxygen the brain dies. Somehow they must have been quick enough to have started the kids heart again and later determined there to be too little brain activity. We need trapical here right about now.

 

 

 

 

 

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Medical effects

 

 

 

A hanging may induce one or more of the following medical conditions:

 

 

 

* Close the carotid arteries causing cerebral ischemia

 

* Close the jugular veins

 

* Induce carotid reflex, which reduces heartbeat when the pressure in the carotid arteries is high, causing cardiac arrest

 

* Break the neck (cervical fracture) causing traumatic spinal cord injury

 

* Close the airway

 

 

 

The cause of death in hanging depends on the conditions related to the event. When the body is released from a relatively high position, death is usually caused by severing the spinal cord between C1 and C2, which may be functional decapitation. High cervical fracture frequently occurs in judicial hangings, and in fact the C1-C2 fracture has been called the "hangman's fracture" in medicine, even when it occurs in other circumstances. Usually, accidental C1-C2 fracture victims do not immediately become unconscious; instead death occurs after some minutes.[citation needed] Another process that has been suggested is carotid sinus reflex death. By this theory, the mechanical stimulation of the carotid sinus in the neck brings on terminal cardiac arrest.

 

 

 

In the absence of fracture and dislocation, occlusion of blood vessels becomes the major cause of death, rather than asphyxiation. Obstruction of venous drainage of the brain via occlusion of the internal jugular veins leads to cerebral edema and then cerebral ischemia. The face will typically become engorged and cyanotic (turned blue through lack of oxygen). There will be the classic sign of strangulationpetechiaelittle blood marks on the face and in the eyes from burst blood capillaries. The tongue may protrude.

 

 

 

Compromise of the cerebral blood flow may occur by obstruction of the carotid arteries, even though their obstruction requires far more force than the obstruction of jugular veins, since they are seated deeper and they contain blood in much higher pressure compared to the jugular veins. Only 31 newtons (7 lbf or 3.2 kgf) of force may be enough to constrict the carotid arteries to the point of rapid unconsciousness.[citation needed] Where death has occurred through carotid artery obstruction or cervical fracture, the face will typically be pale in color and not show petechiae. There exist many reports and pictures of actual short-drop hangings that seem to show that the person died quickly, while others indicate a slow and agonizing death by strangulation.[7]

 

 

 

When cerebral circulation is severely compromised by any mechanism, arterial or venous, death occurs over four or more minutes from cerebral hypoxia, although the heart may continue to beat for some period after the brain can no longer be resuscitated. The time of death in such cases is a matter of convention. In judicial hangings, death is pronounced at cardiac arrest, which may occur at times from several minutes up to 15 minutes or longer after hanging. During suspension, once the prisoner has lapsed into unconsciousness, rippling movements of the body and limbs may occur for some time which are usually attributed to nervous and muscular reflexes. In Britain, it was normal to leave the body suspended for an hour to ensure death.

 

 

 

After death, the body typically shows marks of suspension: bruising and rope marks on the neck. Moreover, sphincters will relax spontaneously and urine and feces will be evacuated. Forensic experts may often be able to tell if hanging is suicide or homicide, as each leaves a distinctive ligature mark. One of the hints they use is the hyoid bone. If broken, it often means the person has been murdered by manual choking. Also, there have been cases of autoerotic asphyxiation leading to death. Children have accidentally died playing the choking game.

 

Looks like it could have been a number of things he died from - not necessarily suffocation.

Am I the only one who read this and thought "the Wii is not a computer, and it's not a computer game, it's a Wii game?" :ugeek:

 

 

 

Anyways, it's not really saddening to me, it's just stupid. Kid got pissed because he couldn't play his games...that describes bad parenting to me. They should have taught him games aren't everything, and looked for help because, as said in the article, this isn't the first time a tantrum had been thrown over games (or over something else), and it seems they were quite serious.

 

 

 

And how the hell did they think the hanging wasn't on purpose? Of course it was [bleep]ing on purpose. He was hanging from his bed with the tie wrapped around the bar. That doesn't happen by the damn suicide fairy.

 

 

 

And to Adam007 and some others, how does the brain die after 6 minutes...Anyone remember David Blaine's "Drowned Alive" thing? He spent 7 minutes and 8 seconds underwater, on one breath, so apparently that theory is out the door. Someone else did it for 9 minutes and 15 seconds (the world record), and many others have attempted the same feat...So, apparently the brain can last for more than 6 minutes..

 

 

 

If you hang someone, your intention is to first break their neck, causing them to be paralyzed (and therefore immobile). Then, they die of suffocation because they can't move to remove the noose. This causes the brain to shut down due to lack of blood flow, cardiac arrest (slowed heartbeat due to lack of blood flow), and, of course, suffocation due to a restricted airway. So yes, there are many different possible causes of death, including some not listed...

If he was stupid enough to kill himself as a teenager, then he wouldn't have been a very rational or productive member of society.

 

When the Red Army was standing 100 yards away from his bunker, I suppose Hitler was also irrational to kill himself. He clearly would not have been a productive member of society. The fact he came close to conquering the whole of Europe is neither here nor there.

 

 

 

Suicide is rarely completely rational, but it can be. If you have a psychological report which states otherwise, I'll shut up.

 

 

 

Hitler was a very productive (Not really in a positive way) member of society. He killed himself because he did not want to face death after a long trial. I don't even see how that relates to this topic.

 

 

 

Again, I REFUSE to be sympethetic on the issue of a self-inflicted death.

If he was stupid enough to kill himself as a teenager, then he wouldn't have been a very rational or productive member of society.

 

When the Red Army was standing 100 yards away from his bunker, I suppose Hitler was also irrational to kill himself. He clearly would not have been a productive member of society. The fact he came close to conquering the whole of Europe is neither here nor there.

 

 

 

Suicide is rarely completely rational, but it can be. If you have a psychological report which states otherwise, I'll shut up.

 

 

 

Hitler was a very productive (Not really in a positive way) member of society. He killed himself because he did not want to face death after a long trial. I don't even see how that relates to this topic.

 

 

 

Again, I REFUSE to be sympethetic on the issue of a self-inflicted death.

 

 

 

You haven't gone through what I have, and I'm not even going to try to explain it to you because there is no real way to explain it. But, if someone very close to you is pushed to the point of suicide, maybe (and hopefully) you'll understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And it may help to read this.

 

 

 

(Several other pages on that site are interesting as well..)

Wow. Thats rough. I can't help but notice that it said computer game, and then mentioned a wii, he wanted to play a computer game, on the wii? Everything else has already been said.

 

 

 

P.S. Shame on the person who said he doesn't feel sorry for him because he killed himself. All ppl make irrational decisions, it's human to make mistakes, and that includes you.

How is a game console considered a computer game? These people know nothing about technology.

 

 

 

Obviously, the console being taken away threw him over the edge. Something was most likely bothering him. Maybe a school bully, he was worrysome, or got in a fight with a friend at school?

If he was stupid enough to kill himself as a teenager, then he wouldn't have been a very rational or productive member of society.

 

When the Red Army was standing 100 yards away from his bunker, I suppose Hitler was also irrational to kill himself. He clearly would not have been a productive member of society. The fact he came close to conquering the whole of Europe is neither here nor there.

 

 

 

Suicide is rarely completely rational, but it can be. If you have a psychological report which states otherwise, I'll shut up.

 

 

 

Hitler was a very productive (Not really in a positive way) member of society. He killed himself because he did not want to face death after a long trial. I don't even see how that relates to this topic.

 

 

 

Again, I REFUSE to be sympethetic on the issue of a self-inflicted death.

 

I'm not asking you to be sympathetic. I'm asking you to recognise that not all people who commit suicide are doing so for irrational reasons.

Wow. Thats rough. I can't help but notice that it said computer game, and then mentioned a wii, he wanted to play a computer game, on the wii? Everything else has already been said.

 

 

 

P.S. Shame on the person who said he doesn't feel sorry for him because he killed himself. All ppl make irrational decisions, it's human to make mistakes, and that includes you.

 

 

 

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it was a wii game, not a computer game.

 

 

 

But to your other comment, suicide will get no pity from me, for it doesn't deserve any. You all can go feel bad and have a little cry-fest with your feelings, while I laugh at the idiot and be thankful that's one less gene I have to worry about affecting the gene pool.

But to your other comment, suicide will get no pity from me, for it doesn't deserve any. You all can go feel bad and have a little cry-fest with your feelings, while I laugh at the idiot and be thankful that's one less gene I have to worry about affecting the gene pool.

 

 

 

Sigh... -.- Every goddamn time a thread like this pops up.

 

 

 

Suicide (generally) happens due to a person hitting absolute rock bottom. To them, that is the only way out, due to the chance that they are most likely suffering from Major Depression (a clinical mental illness). He wasn't stupid, he was sick.

Wii = a computer. Stop being techical. -.-

 

 

 

This doesn't surpise me... My regards are for the parents and friends. RIP I guess.

This actually became a meme on /b/ for a while. They called him 'an hiiro'.

 

We also raided his memorial bebo til it got closed, hehe.

 

OT: Sad.

But to your other comment, suicide will get no pity from me, for it doesn't deserve any. You all can go feel bad and have a little cry-fest with your feelings, while I laugh at the idiot and be thankful that's one less gene I have to worry about affecting the gene pool.

 

 

 

Sigh... -.- Every goddamn time a thread like this pops up.

 

 

 

Suicide (generally) happens due to a person hitting absolute rock bottom. To them, that is the only way out, due to the chance that they are most likely suffering from Major Depression (a clinical mental illness). He wasn't stupid, he was sick.

 

 

 

I know, because I've tried it before -.- Then I figured out what a completely idiotic and senseless act it was, and it's not the only way to deal with the problem.

 

 

 

Clinical depression is a lame excuse for getting "happy pills." It doesn't take much to stop depression, or at least it never did for me, and I have plenty of reasons to be depressed.

 

 

 

I don't feel bad for them because if your stupid enough not to see reason, then you're just wasting space and resources.

 

 

 

And I'll be as technical as I want to, thank you. How about everyone stop being technical. Then we're all screwed. Take, for example, the military not being technical and thorough while monitoring missile launches? Guess who just got blown up - you did. The Wii a computer, but it's a gaming console. It's a specialized type of computer, a sub-class of computers. A desktop computer game will not play on a Wii, and a Wii game will not play on a desktop computer. There is a large difference between the two, and that difference should be observed.

 

I know, because I've tried it before -.- Then I figured out what a completely idiotic and senseless act it was, and it's not the only way to deal with the problem.

 

 

 

Clinical depression is a lame excuse for getting "happy pills." It doesn't take much to stop depression, or at least it never did for me, and I have plenty of reasons to be depressed.

 

 

 

I don't feel bad for them because if your stupid enough not to see reason, then you're just wasting space and resources.

 

 

 

And I'll be as technical as I want to, thank you. How about everyone stop being technical. Then we're all screwed. Take, for example, the military not being technical and thorough while monitoring missile launches? Guess who just got blown up - you did. The Wii a computer, but it's a gaming console. It's a specialized type of computer, a sub-class of computers. A desktop computer game will not play on a Wii, and a Wii game will not play on a desktop computer. There is a large difference between the two, and that difference should be observed.

 

Not everyone has it as well off as you do, not everyone is like you. Just because it was easy for you to get over depression doesn't mean it would've been easy for this kid. Not to mention that when you're mad, it's often hard to see reason...

 

And for the record, I was the first to mention the computer/Wii thing. :roll:

Clinical depression is a lame excuse for getting "happy pills." It doesn't take much to stop depression, or at least it never did for me, and I have plenty of reasons to be depressed.

 

 

 

 

Most ignorant statement of the year. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

"Major depressive disorder, also known as major depression, unipolar depression, clinical depression, or simply depression, is a mental disorder characterized by a pervasive low mood, loss of interest in usual activities and diminished ability to experience pleasure. "