The Game.

 

 

 

Stop making me lose.

 

It's a book, Lenticular_J reccomends it, good read too (been reading since last night.)

Woo more of my problems.

 

 

 

So I'm positive that she doesn't like me. I'm almost sure she likes one of my friends and was using my so they don't find out. I don't really care about her now, and he doesn't like her so whatever everyone lost.

 

 

 

What happened at the dance: she avoids me, doesn't talk to me, checks if I'm looking at her. Only 9 people stayed overnight for the dance from my grade; most important her and one of her friends. Everyone from our grade hung arround each other. And after I decided to get over her I started noticing her friend, who will be now know as her. I have thought about her before, but put it off pretty quickly. Anyways I relized that she's a great person, an I started to think about her and her being a possibility. By the end of the night I was sure That I like her, but I don't have a clue what she thinks about me. And of course a 'slow' song wasn't played for 7 hours. We rarely talk, and I don't know what to do. It's not a crazy crush like the last one where I had no choice to ask her out or I probably wouldve gone insane. But I do like her.

 

 

 

So my questions are:

 

1. How can I get her to notice me as more than just another guy

 

2. Should I ask her out now, or wait a while

 

3. What should I tell the other girl so she knows I don't like her

 

So my questions are:

 

1. How can I get her to notice me as more than just another guy

 

2. Should I ask her out now, or wait a while

 

3. What should I tell the other girl so she knows I don't like her

 

 

 

Talk to the first girl when they are both together, it gives you a chance to demonstrate value to her friend, and afterward you can talk to the new girl alone because you've already had a conversation with her.

 

 

 

Don't ask her out until she indicates interest and engages you back when you flirt with her.

 

As for asking her out, I just have to post this great way to do it. In the middle of a conversation bring up something cool you're doing but don't invite her. Then towards the end you can say 'you know what, you're pretty cool you should come along to x' Take a piece of paper and pen, write you number on part of it and rip the paper in half, hand her the other half with the pen. She'll know what to do with it, then just exchange pieces of paper. Then continue the conversation for at least 5 minutes, because otherwise she will be thinking the number was your goal and might get buyers remorse.

 

 

 

Don't bother telling the girl you aren't interested, women have great intuition. She will probably just know, if she doesn't, she will figure it out when you start talking less to her and more to her friend. Just don't ignore her, it's low value.

 

 

 

Do some research on peacocking - I started 2 trends that way when I was at school which kinda defeated the purpose :roll:

 

 

 

edit: One more thing, when you ask a girl out, don't go to the movies. The purpose of a 'date' is to make time to show her personality and let her show you yours. At a movie you just sit there in the dark in silence, do something original and fun. For example I love taking girls ice skating. In Australia most people have never done it. It's cheap, fun, and you can demonstrate value by teaching her.

edit: One more thing, when you ask a girl out, don't go to the movies. The purpose of a 'date' is to make time to show her personality and let her show you yours. At a movie you just sit there in the dark in silence, do something original and fun. For example I love taking girls ice skating. In Australia most people have never done it. It's cheap, fun, and you can demonstrate value by teaching her.

 

Now I wish I was a girl and lived in Brisbane, I love going ice skating, but my friends always want to go to the beach so I don't get to go -.-

Talk to the first girl when they are both together, it gives you a chance to demonstrate value to her friend, and afterward you can talk to the new girl alone because you've already had a conversation with her.

 

 

 

Don't ask her out until she indicates interest and engages you back when you flirt with her.

 

As for asking her out, I just have to post this great way to do it. In the middle of a conversation bring up something cool you're doing but don't invite her. Then towards the end you can say 'you know what, you're pretty cool you should come along to x' Take a piece of paper and pen, write you number on part of it and rip the paper in half, hand her the other half with the pen. She'll know what to do with it, then just exchange pieces of paper. Then continue the conversation for at least 5 minutes, because otherwise she will be thinking the number was your goal and might get buyers remorse.

 

 

 

Don't bother telling the girl you aren't interested, women have great intuition. She will probably just know, if she doesn't, she will figure it out when you start talking less to her and more to her friend. Just don't ignore her, it's low value.

 

 

 

Do some research on peacocking - I started 2 trends that way when I was at school which kinda defeated the purpose :roll:

 

 

 

edit: One more thing, when you ask a girl out, don't go to the movies. The purpose of a 'date' is to make time to show her personality and let her show you yours. At a movie you just sit there in the dark in silence, do something original and fun. For example I love taking girls ice skating. In Australia most people have never done it. It's cheap, fun, and you can demonstrate value by teaching her.

 

Better than I could've said. And I like the double paper-close, because he actually likes this girl.

 

 

 

In case you need indicators of interest - leaning towards you, asking somewhat personal questions about you, playing with your hands or something like that. If she ever touches you, say, "Hey, I usually charge five dollars a touch." She will be all over you. Cat-string. Cat-string. We could be a teaaaaam, dan!

 

 

 

Now I wish I was a girl

 

That part brings up whole new questions. Jokey joke.

Now I wish I was a girl

That parf brings up whole new questions. Jokey joke.[]

I'd be ones guys could understand, bbut you'd need to do better then a PUA ;)

Now I wish I was a girl

That parf brings up whole new questions. Jokey joke.[]

I'd be ones guys could understand, bbut you'd need to do better then a PUA ;)

 

 

 

Actually, if you were born a girl, you're whole exsistance would likely have been different.

I just brought up the introduction. Dan'll be able to help with the rest. I have like four hours of recordings from Mystery's seminars and stuff, and I just sit here and listen to them while I'm on the internet. And I gotta say, it's better to hear him talk like this. It just sorta embeds into your head better. He goes into a lot more detail of sets and stuff he's done, just stories and his own method.

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and dan brought up peacocking. Definitely true about that. You'll get a lot of attention by standing out.

This all seems so... fake. I read the description of the book, and it seems like its just meant to teach you how to pick up girls using a bunch of tricks that you learn from a book. I know if I were a woman(and even as a man), I would prefer someone who approaches me honestly, not with some tips they picked up from a book. A relationship should be based on something more than smooth lines and fast talking. I am, however, interested to see how this book magically turns any person who reads it into someone who can pick up almost anyone, though I am completely turned off by the concept.

I'm not planning on picking up large amounts of girls either, I still want the book (@bacon: as in, THE GAME) though.

That's what is known as AFC thinking by the guys in that game. They tend to simplicate guys into three groups: AFCs (average frustrated chumps), PUAs (pickup artists), and AMOGs (Alpha Male Other Guys). AFCs are most dudes who just can't really get a girl. They try the honest thing and all that, but to be honest, girls aren't that attracted to the guy nervously walking up to them and buying them a beer. Pickup artists are generally average guys (or naturals who've always known how) that have decided to take action and become the alpha male women really want. Alpha males are the strong, bulky, RAAAAWWWR MY GURL guys that would gladly just bash your head in to take the girl.

 

 

 

You might think it's all tricks and such, but if you look at it from an evolutionary point of view, it's how you continue your genes. It isn't smooth lines and fast talking, it's proven methods to help build attraction between strangers that otherwise may not have occurred because one party (namely the AFC) didn't have the confidence or just wasn't interesting enough for the girl. Girls definitely have the easy part in heterosexual couples. They sit there and look good until someone catches their attention enough to be considered a "mate".

 

 

 

For people who want real relationships, fine. This just builds confidence. None of this is lying; it's flirting.

I resent being called an AFC :P I happen to be in a stable relationship which formed of its own accord. If you're in it for fun, you're objectifying women, which is a problem of another sort.

 

 

 

But this is really a discussion of what one considers the purpose of dating to be, which really doesn't belong in this topic, so I will stop. I'm just expressing my personal opinion that anyone looking for a relationship should not use these techniques.

So....My question is pretty much, in 7th grade, how can you tell if a girl likes you? :)

 

EDIT: Oh, and dan brought up peacocking. Definitely true about that. You'll get a lot of attention by standing out.

 

haha, just read up on what that is, me mate used to pretty much do this by wearing this pair of rainbow coloured trainers, whenever a girl made a comment about them he had this story lined up about how he rescued a Taiwanese boy from a sweatshop who made him the trainers to say thank you. Not sure if that would be classed as peacocking but was always a decent and funny icebreaker that got im chatting.

So....My question is pretty much, in 7th grade, how can you tell if a girl likes you? :)

 

Same IOIs as most girls, really. Although if you know her, it's a little harder, since she probably won't be asking questions. If she touches you a lot after you tell her she can't, tries to get your attention if you talk t her and then leave, or leans towards you a lot when you talk, those are three of the most important ones.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and dan brought up peacocking. Definitely true about that. You'll get a lot of attention by standing out.

 

haha, just read up on what that is, me mate used to pretty much do this by wearing this pair of rainbow coloured trainers, whenever a girl made a comment about them he had this story lined up about how he rescued a Taiwanese boy from a sweatshop who made him the trainers to say thank you. Not sure if that would be classed as peacocking but was always a decent and funny icebreaker that got im chatting.

 

Great idea. Having a cute, personal, funny, yet not sexual or threatening story to back up something like that is one of the best ways to net most of the girls out there. That's why diamond companies make so much. Those are just a poor man's diamonds.

edit: One more thing, when you ask a girl out, don't go to the movies. The purpose of a 'date' is to make time to show her personality and let her show you yours. At a movie you just sit there in the dark in silence, do something original and fun. For example I love taking girls ice skating. In Australia most people have never done it. It's cheap, fun, and you can demonstrate value by teaching her.

 

Now I wish I was a girl and lived in Brisbane, I love going ice skating, but my friends always want to go to the beach so I don't get to go -.-

 

 

 

Buy me dinner and I'll see what I can do, touching is extra though :P

 

 

 

 

Better than I could've said. And I like the double paper-close, because he actually likes this girl.

 

 

 

In case you need indicators of interest - leaning towards you, asking somewhat personal questions about you, playing with your hands or something like that. If she ever touches you, say, "Hey, I usually charge five dollars a touch." She will be all over you. Cat-string. Cat-string. We could be a teaaaaam, dan!

 

 

 

Heh, too bad you're not a little older. I need a wing.. :lol:

 

 

 

Most my guy friends are either too dumb to stick with it/understand it all, too amog or too insecure to give it a try. Sarging alone isn't easy, it especially makes isolating much harder, and impossible in some situations.

 

 

 

This all seems so... fake. I read the description of the book, and it seems like its just meant to teach you how to pick up girls using a bunch of tricks that you learn from a book. I know if I were a woman(and even as a man), I would prefer someone who approaches me honestly, not with some tips they picked up from a book. A relationship should be based on something more than smooth lines and fast talking. I am, however, interested to see how this book magically turns any person who reads it into someone who can pick up almost anyone, though I am completely turned off by the concept.

 

Think about this: A guys attraction is based on around 20% personality, 80% looks. Girls use makeup, attention getting clothes etc to enhance their attraction. They learned how to use makeup from somebody.

 

 

 

A Girls attraction is based on 80% personality, 20% looks. The thing is, most guys don't go out and learn anything to enhance their own attraction. I don't see what's wrong with knowing what's attractive and using it. Sure they use canned lines, but only as beginners. If you use pre prepared stuff that you know works, you don't even have to think about it. You can keep your mouth moving while you concentrate on important things like your body language, voice tone, the girl or groups' reactions etc. Once you have that nailed, you know enough about the theory to use your own stuff and make it all real.

edit: One more thing, when you ask a girl out, don't go to the movies. The purpose of a 'date' is to make time to show her personality and let her show you yours. At a movie you just sit there in the dark in silence, do something original and fun. For example I love taking girls ice skating. In Australia most people have never done it. It's cheap, fun, and you can demonstrate value by teaching her.

 

Now I wish I was a girl and lived in Brisbane, I love going ice skating, but my friends always want to go to the beach so I don't get to go -.-

 

 

 

Buy me dinner and I'll see what I can do, touching is extra though :P

 

 

 

Trust me, you don't want to be alone with Mage_Man for an extended period. I even find it weird talking to him on MSN at times. (He knows what I mean.)

 

 

 

Though I hope to hell it wasn't him, or he was drunk. He kind of comes across as the kind of person who is stupid enough to have something remember him on his PSP, and have someone else use it.

Thanks guys.

 

 

 

Anyways I need to know/learn how to flirt, and how I can get her to like me. Also I need to know some more ways to tell If she likes me.

Well, a 50/50 one is playing with her hair. That means she's either bored or likes you.

 

 

 

But who cares if you're the one guy she's set on or not. Girls aren't very picky when they're single (for the most part, I know high-school girls are often an exception to this).

 

 

 

Flirting ... Well, you don't want to approach her alone. Get her in a two-set or three-set. MAKE SURE TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHOEVER SHE'S WITH. One thing my brother always did was make his "target" hold something, like a drink, while he won over her less-attractive (or male) friends. Whenever she tries to talk, PLAYFULLY say something along the lines of, "Man, she interrupts everything, how are you friends with her?" Do something like this a few times, it's called negging. A playful, seemingly unintentional insult. Girls go crazy about that, because they think they need to prove themselves to guys that don't drool over them. After a few minutes, ask the group if it's cool if you talk to her, they'll probably say yes, so you: turn to her and say, "Hey, sorry if I was a little bit of an [wagon]. Come here, I wanna show you something cool." Do something that involves mind-reading or personality, centering around here. Try not to make it seem like you're hitting on her. Oh yeah, this is important. When you lead her away, lead her by her hand. If you squeeze and she squeezes back, that's a MAJOR IOI. So do something like that, namely the cube routine is good for beginners (look it up). Then, if you've received at least three indications, either say: "Hey, we should continue this another time." And take her number. Or, if you're feeling like a man and you're confidant - plus she isn't a very shy girl - ask her if she'd like to kiss you. Flat out. Yes? Say "Ok" and go for it. Maybe? Say "Let's find out." No? Say "I wasn't planning on letting you. You just kept looking at me like you were expecting something."

 

 

 

When you're talking to the group, CONTROL YOUR BODY. No nervous movements. OOZE confidence. Rocking back and forth is okay though, because it makes you look like you'll leave any second. Oh, and make sure not to approach the group from the back. You want to hit them in the front, and be diagonal to your target.

 

 

 

GL BRO.

Dude, Lenticular, where do you learn all this stuff? You have it down to the exact detail.

Being blessed by a 22-year old brother who's started breeding me for cool and literature. The main things you need to look into are The Game by Neil Strauss, which I think everybody should read first, as an introduction and shock-absorber, and then, judging by what you like the most, delve deeper into:

 

 

 

Mystery Method

 

Speed Seduction

 

Juggler

 

Cocky-Funny

 

 

 

Although a nice mix of all is really good.

Try out negging if you want, but I wouldn't suggest doing it to highschool girls.

 

 

 

The reason why negging works on more attractive girls that are 23+ is because they are used to guys drooling over them. If you neg a girl that isn't used to it, they can get the idea you're 'too good' for them, and just reject you for the self esteem boost.

 

 

 

Negging works on attractive women who have been approached by lots of guys who all do the same nice guy stuff, and drool over their looks. If you neg, she gets curious as to why you don't act the way other guys do. It also is effective for removing the '[bleep] shield' that attractive women tend to have, to get rid of low value guys.

 

 

 

Basically they get a temporary slight drop in self esteem because they aren't getting the same reaction as they are used to from low value guys, so they might give fake indicators of interest, subconscious tests etc to see if they can 'win him over' to get that esteem back. That's when the flirting can start, and 'it's on'.

 

 

 

Most girls in HS don't have [bleep] shields, (if they do it's an immaturity issue) and they aren't hit on by 15 new guys a day. I suggest using disqualifiers instead, mixed with being cocky funny.

 

 

 

Instead of telling her she has something between her teeth, tell her she's funny but too bad she isn't your type etc. Blowing your nose in front of them is also a great disqualifier.

 

 

 

Only use these in attraction though. As a general rule I use negging on 9's and 10's only, maybe 1 neg on 8s but I just kinda use my gut feeling if I should or not.

 

 

 

Disqualifiers are also important when getting a girl to cheat on/break up with her boyfriend. I won't go into the whole technique but if they aren't used she will know you are just trying to get her to break up with him for you which is low value and she will get defensive.

Okay, so all this is really starting to disgust me. You guys are starting to treat women like prizes to be one, or big game to be hunted and taken down with the proper technique. Seriously, trying to get someone to break up with her boyfriend? That's low.

Okay, so all this is really starting to disgust me. You guys are starting to treat women like prizes to be one, or big game to be hunted and taken down with the proper technique. Seriously, trying to get someone to break up with her boyfriend? That's low.

 

I'm so used to guys that use techniques like that, at this point I don't even care that much. I used to be a lot more petty, I guess that's the right word, and hope people would break up so I could date the guy I liked. But, I learned a few facts about life that have served me well so far. It's pretty much impossible to explain though, but among other things, the only time I would ever try to break two people up is if I knew one of them was cheating, or something similar.

Okay, so all this is really starting to disgust me. You guys are starting to treat women like prizes to be one, or big game to be hunted and taken down with the proper technique. Seriously, trying to get someone to break up with her boyfriend? That's low.

 

All's fair in love and war, I guess. Plus, evolution can be a [bleep]. In today's day and age, everyone has a smorgasbord of choice in partners. Gotta work for what you want.