"I want a girlfriend/boyfriend", and other such relationship advice

[rangeor]

Today in math I was bored so I drew a dartboard on a piece of paper and played by dropping my pencil on it. I only did it 'cause I was bored but I realized making board games and playing them with girls would probably be a good way to escalate a friendship.

 

It was real fun though, because I would add in random rings that subtracted 15 points instead of giving points :lol:

[Omar]

I'm on David D's mail list, though i don't know how. I occasionally go through one of his emails, they are mostly advertisements for his products but occasionally he sends out something useful. Thought some of you would be interested in this particular one, I couldn't put it better myself.

 

[hide] Ya know, this really is a great question.

 

One of the most important things to understand

as a man, is what to do when things are WORKING...

so you don't SCREW IT UP!

 

If you use the materials that you're learning

from me, you will start to have a magical thing

happen more and more often... women will start to

do and say things that clearly indicate that they

LIKE you.

 

Sometimes is will be a touch, sometimes a

compliment, and sometimes a smile. But these

things WILL happen more and more as you get better

and better.

 

I always laugh to myself when I bust a woman's

chops really hard, and she laughs and says "You're

so funny!" or "You really are good!" etc.

 

I still shake my head and wonder why the hell

it took me so long to figure all this stuff out.

 

But I digress... you know, while I'm

digressing, what's with you ending your email

with:

 

">From new hampshire, where men are men, women

are few, and sheep are nervous."

 

...?!

 

This is probably the third or fourth time that

I've seen this at the end of an email.

 

Tell me the truth... do chicks dig this?

 

You're making me nervous, man. Keep the sheep

talk on the DL, OK?

 

Uncool.

 

Now, when a woman does something that signals

"I like you," it is VITALLY important that you:

 

1) Know how to recognize it

 

2) DON'T do what MOST guy do

 

3) DO the right thing, and AMPLIFY it

 

So how can you tell if a woman is doing

something that says "I like you?"

 

Well, it's VERY important to remember that

women are far more "subtle" than men (most of the

time, that is).

 

If a man is interested in a woman, you can see

it all over his face. It's usually very obvious.

 

But women are different.

 

Women do SMALL things.

 

A little touch. A sly smile. Sometimes a

comment like "You're so cute" (as in your example

above).

 

But then IT'S GONE.

 

Women always seem to act like they're not quite

sure.

 

They don't send consistent signals that most

men can "read."

 

And when they DO send signals that are easy to

see, most guys respond in a way that makes those

signals stop... which makes things even MORE

confusing.

 

Again, women aren't as CONSISTENT as men.

 

A woman can seem like she's interested one

minute, then stand-offish the next.

 

So rule #1 is:

 

JUST BECAUSE SHE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT SAYS "I

LIKE YOU", DON'T THINK THAT IT MEANS "I LIKE YOU

NO MATTER WHAT."

 

Much better to interpret subtle "I like you"

cues as "I like you for a second, but if you start

acting like a Wuss Bag or a Dumb [wagon], it will all

be over in an instant."

 

Unfortunately for most guys, they take "I like

you" signals to mean "You've won my approval, now

you can do whatever you want".

 

And what do they do? Of course...

 

They turn into dorks, say or do a few stupid

things, and destroy it all.

 

Oh, how many times I've watched guys (myself

included) screw up perfectly good situations

because they just didn't get this concept.

 

Let me give you an example.

 

Let's say that you're out with a woman, and

you've been teasing her, and she smiles and says,

"I like you."

 

A typical "male" response is for a guy to think

to himself "OK, I'm in... she digs me" and to get

that rush in the head and chest.

 

Next thing you know, he's acting different.

 

He's talking about different things.

 

He's giving compliments.

 

He's being "nicer."

 

And what's the woman thinking while this is all

going on? Of course... she's thinking, "Uh oh, his

cool, calm, interesting personality was just a

cover for the secret inner-Wuss that was hiding

out, waiting for a little bit of approval from

me... AHHHHHH!"

 

Women KNOW that they're in control of the

situation. Or at least MOST of the time they

are... and they THINK that they are even during

the times when they're not.

 

They're constantly using different kinds of

communication to test and "feel out" the

situation.

 

Remember, MOST of the time when you're saying

something that you think is nice, charming, and

original, it's something that a woman has heard

about 47 times that week from other guys.

 

We guys act VERY predictably most of the time.

 

And women know how to tell if you're just

another loser who's pretending to be cool... who

will turn into an average Wuss at the first sign

of attraction from a cute woman.

 

Think about what I just said.

 

This is hard for a lot of guys to swallow...

but it's the reality of the situation.

 

There's something that women call "Sexual

Tension." It's also known as "Chemistry" or

"Attraction" as well. But only WOMEN know it this

way. I've got an entire program that can teach you

about this amazing skill, if you want to learn how

to use it... by the way:

 

http://www.DatingTechniques.com/SexualCommunication

 

When you tease a woman, make her laugh, play

hard to get with her, act unpredictably, etc. in

the right way, you will create this tension. This

is what usually leads to a woman saying something

like "You're cute" or "I like you."

 

It's the TENSION that makes her FEEL it and SAY

it.

 

THE TENSION!

 

In these very special moments, you need to turn

the tension UP. Dial it up. AMPLIFY it.

 

Don't diffuse it all by saying "You're cute

yourself" or "I like you, too". Or by smiling like

a jackass wussy dork who has just seen his first

rainbow.

 

This kind of thing RELEASES the tension, and it

usually takes that wonderful electric attraction

feeling that the woman is feeling and INSTANTLY

kills it.

 

Does this make logical sense?

 

Hell no.

 

But it IS what happens.

 

OK, so let's talk about the RIGHT way to handle

this type of situation.

 

Remember when I said that it's the TENSION that

makes a woman feel the feelings and make the

comments?

 

And that you need to AMPLIFY it when you're

getting a positive response?

 

Nice.

 

Once upon a time, there was a scene in a movie

that illustrated this concept PERFECTLY.

 

In fact, it might be the all-time greatest

example of this principle that has ever been

recorded on film.

 

Remember the end of "The Empire Strikes Back,"

when they were about to put Han Solo into the deep

freeze?

 

Remember when Leia said, "I love you"...?

 

Remember what Han said?

 

Right, he said... "I know."

 

Perfect.

 

All of the sexual tension that built up in Star

Wars and Empire culminated in Leia confessing her

love.

 

And Han says, "I know."

 

Awesome!

 

Imagine being Leia. What could be going through

her mind at this point?

 

An answer like this isn't easy to understand.

It has all kinds of implications.

 

It's confusing.

 

It says, "I know you love me, because it's been

obvious for a long time...." But, it doesn't let

HER know how he feels exactly. It requires

consideration. It dials up the tension. It's

amazing.

 

By the way, I read that when they were filming

that scene, Han was supposed to answer, "I love

you too," but the director didn't like it. They

tried all kinds of things, and in the end Harrison

Ford made up that line on the spot in one of the

takes... and they kept it. Nice.

 

By the way, one of the BIG reasons why the

newer movies in the Star Wars series suck is

because there is no character like Han... think

about it. It's all boring, predictable stuff.

There's no sexy, arrogant, funny, wildcard

personality messing things up.

 

Like I pointed out after I saw "Attack Of The

Clones," Anakin had to kill an ENTIRE VILLAGE of

Sand People just to convince Princess A. that he

wasn't a complete and total Wuss. Would have been

so much easier and more entertaining if he would

have just had a PERSONALITY.

 

Whatever.

 

Now, where was I...?

 

Oh, yeah... amplifying the sexual tension...

 

If you're out with a woman, and you tease her

because she's wearing four inch heels by saying

"What's the deal, are you four feet tall without

those?", and she opens her mouth with the classic

"Oh no you didn't" look (smiling of course, with

that surprised smile)... and you dial it up to the

next level with "Oh, I'm sorry...Four foot

three?"... and she hits you on the arm...

 

...and then she stops, puts her hand on your

arm, and says, "You know, you're funny"...

 

...what do you do?

 

YOU SAY, "YEAH, I KNOW"... in a serious tone.

 

Or "Don't try to use compliments to make me

like you. It won't work. Go buy me a drink or

something... I prefer gifts and money."

 

Or look down at her hand on your arm, lean back

slightly, turn your head, and put your eyebrows

together as if to say "Just WHAT do you think

you're doing touching me?!"

 

TURN IT UP, my friend!

 

You TURN UP the tension.

 

AMPLIFY it.

 

Keep it going.

 

If you keep amplifying the tension and

attraction at each of these wonderful moments,

good things will happen.

 

Good stuff.[/hide]

 

I wish he stopped slapping his Enter key. Good advice though.

[BlindBaker]

Today in math I was bored so I drew a dartboard on a piece of paper and played by dropping my pencil on it. I only did it 'cause I was bored but I realized making board games and playing them with girls would probably be a good way to escalate a friendship.

 

It was real fun though, because I would add in random rings that subtracted 15 points instead of giving points :lol:

I don't know about the board game, but the dartboard game sounds like a really good idea for school on Monday. :lol:

[RpgGamer]

Hopefully this will be my only update on the manner.

 

A few hours ago my ex was released from the hospital and was deemed clinically depressed. Fair enough. I don't think it really needed 8 hours to figure that out. Anyway, she called me from her boyfriend's phone...whom I stil haven't officially met...to say that she was out. Then I tell her that we have catching up to do, but then she rambles off that I'm a bad friend for not keeping her in the loop of my life. As I try to get her to hang out with me so we can catch up as friends and hopefully put this crap behind us, she hangs up on me. Real cool >.>

 

On the other hand, things seem to be going well with my new girlfriend. There's not a whole lot of sexual tension, but I feel pretty connected to her, so we're doing pretty well.

[Lenticular_J]

I'm on David D's mail list, though i don't know how. I occasionally go through one of his emails, they are mostly advertisements for his products but occasionally he sends out something useful. Thought some of you would be interested in this particular one, I couldn't put it better myself.

 

[hide] Ya know, this really is a great question.

 

One of the most important things to understand

as a man, is what to do when things are WORKING...

so you don't SCREW IT UP!

 

If you use the materials that you're learning

from me, you will start to have a magical thing

happen more and more often... women will start to

do and say things that clearly indicate that they

LIKE you.

 

Sometimes is will be a touch, sometimes a

compliment, and sometimes a smile. But these

things WILL happen more and more as you get better

and better.

 

I always laugh to myself when I bust a woman's

chops really hard, and she laughs and says "You're

so funny!" or "You really are good!" etc.

 

I still shake my head and wonder why the hell

it took me so long to figure all this stuff out.

 

But I digress... you know, while I'm

digressing, what's with you ending your email

with:

 

">From new hampshire, where men are men, women

are few, and sheep are nervous."

 

...?!

 

This is probably the third or fourth time that

I've seen this at the end of an email.

 

Tell me the truth... do chicks dig this?

 

You're making me nervous, man. Keep the sheep

talk on the DL, OK?

 

Uncool.

 

Now, when a woman does something that signals

"I like you," it is VITALLY important that you:

 

1) Know how to recognize it

 

2) DON'T do what MOST guy do

 

3) DO the right thing, and AMPLIFY it

 

So how can you tell if a woman is doing

something that says "I like you?"

 

Well, it's VERY important to remember that

women are far more "subtle" than men (most of the

time, that is).

 

If a man is interested in a woman, you can see

it all over his face. It's usually very obvious.

 

But women are different.

 

Women do SMALL things.

 

A little touch. A sly smile. Sometimes a

comment like "You're so cute" (as in your example

above).

 

But then IT'S GONE.

 

Women always seem to act like they're not quite

sure.

 

They don't send consistent signals that most

men can "read."

 

And when they DO send signals that are easy to

see, most guys respond in a way that makes those

signals stop... which makes things even MORE

confusing.

 

Again, women aren't as CONSISTENT as men.

 

A woman can seem like she's interested one

minute, then stand-offish the next.

 

So rule #1 is:

 

JUST BECAUSE SHE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT SAYS "I

LIKE YOU", DON'T THINK THAT IT MEANS "I LIKE YOU

NO MATTER WHAT."

 

Much better to interpret subtle "I like you"

cues as "I like you for a second, but if you start

acting like a Wuss Bag or a Dumb [wagon], it will all

be over in an instant."

 

Unfortunately for most guys, they take "I like

you" signals to mean "You've won my approval, now

you can do whatever you want".

 

And what do they do? Of course...

 

They turn into dorks, say or do a few stupid

things, and destroy it all.

 

Oh, how many times I've watched guys (myself

included) screw up perfectly good situations

because they just didn't get this concept.

 

Let me give you an example.

 

Let's say that you're out with a woman, and

you've been teasing her, and she smiles and says,

"I like you."

 

A typical "male" response is for a guy to think

to himself "OK, I'm in... she digs me" and to get

that rush in the head and chest.

 

Next thing you know, he's acting different.

 

He's talking about different things.

 

He's giving compliments.

 

He's being "nicer."

 

And what's the woman thinking while this is all

going on? Of course... she's thinking, "Uh oh, his

cool, calm, interesting personality was just a

cover for the secret inner-Wuss that was hiding

out, waiting for a little bit of approval from

me... AHHHHHH!"

 

Women KNOW that they're in control of the

situation. Or at least MOST of the time they

are... and they THINK that they are even during

the times when they're not.

 

They're constantly using different kinds of

communication to test and "feel out" the

situation.

 

Remember, MOST of the time when you're saying

something that you think is nice, charming, and

original, it's something that a woman has heard

about 47 times that week from other guys.

 

We guys act VERY predictably most of the time.

 

And women know how to tell if you're just

another loser who's pretending to be cool... who

will turn into an average Wuss at the first sign

of attraction from a cute woman.

 

Think about what I just said.

 

This is hard for a lot of guys to swallow...

but it's the reality of the situation.

 

There's something that women call "Sexual

Tension." It's also known as "Chemistry" or

"Attraction" as well. But only WOMEN know it this

way. I've got an entire program that can teach you

about this amazing skill, if you want to learn how

to use it... by the way:

 

http://www.DatingTechniques.com/SexualCommunication

 

When you tease a woman, make her laugh, play

hard to get with her, act unpredictably, etc. in

the right way, you will create this tension. This

is what usually leads to a woman saying something

like "You're cute" or "I like you."

 

It's the TENSION that makes her FEEL it and SAY

it.

 

THE TENSION!

 

In these very special moments, you need to turn

the tension UP. Dial it up. AMPLIFY it.

 

Don't diffuse it all by saying "You're cute

yourself" or "I like you, too". Or by smiling like

a jackass wussy dork who has just seen his first

rainbow.

 

This kind of thing RELEASES the tension, and it

usually takes that wonderful electric attraction

feeling that the woman is feeling and INSTANTLY

kills it.

 

Does this make logical sense?

 

Hell no.

 

But it IS what happens.

 

OK, so let's talk about the RIGHT way to handle

this type of situation.

 

Remember when I said that it's the TENSION that

makes a woman feel the feelings and make the

comments?

 

And that you need to AMPLIFY it when you're

getting a positive response?

 

Nice.

 

Once upon a time, there was a scene in a movie

that illustrated this concept PERFECTLY.

 

In fact, it might be the all-time greatest

example of this principle that has ever been

recorded on film.

 

Remember the end of "The Empire Strikes Back,"

when they were about to put Han Solo into the deep

freeze?

 

Remember when Leia said, "I love you"...?

 

Remember what Han said?

 

Right, he said... "I know."

 

Perfect.

 

All of the sexual tension that built up in Star

Wars and Empire culminated in Leia confessing her

love.

 

And Han says, "I know."

 

Awesome!

 

Imagine being Leia. What could be going through

her mind at this point?

 

An answer like this isn't easy to understand.

It has all kinds of implications.

 

It's confusing.

 

It says, "I know you love me, because it's been

obvious for a long time...." But, it doesn't let

HER know how he feels exactly. It requires

consideration. It dials up the tension. It's

amazing.

 

By the way, I read that when they were filming

that scene, Han was supposed to answer, "I love

you too," but the director didn't like it. They

tried all kinds of things, and in the end Harrison

Ford made up that line on the spot in one of the

takes... and they kept it. Nice.

 

By the way, one of the BIG reasons why the

newer movies in the Star Wars series suck is

because there is no character like Han... think

about it. It's all boring, predictable stuff.

There's no sexy, arrogant, funny, wildcard

personality messing things up.

 

Like I pointed out after I saw "Attack Of The

Clones," Anakin had to kill an ENTIRE VILLAGE of

Sand People just to convince Princess A. that he

wasn't a complete and total Wuss. Would have been

so much easier and more entertaining if he would

have just had a PERSONALITY.

 

Whatever.

 

Now, where was I...?

 

Oh, yeah... amplifying the sexual tension...

 

If you're out with a woman, and you tease her

because she's wearing four inch heels by saying

"What's the deal, are you four feet tall without

those?", and she opens her mouth with the classic

"Oh no you didn't" look (smiling of course, with

that surprised smile)... and you dial it up to the

next level with "Oh, I'm sorry...Four foot

three?"... and she hits you on the arm...

 

...and then she stops, puts her hand on your

arm, and says, "You know, you're funny"...

 

...what do you do?

 

YOU SAY, "YEAH, I KNOW"... in a serious tone.

 

Or "Don't try to use compliments to make me

like you. It won't work. Go buy me a drink or

something... I prefer gifts and money."

 

Or look down at her hand on your arm, lean back

slightly, turn your head, and put your eyebrows

together as if to say "Just WHAT do you think

you're doing touching me?!"

 

TURN IT UP, my friend!

 

You TURN UP the tension.

 

AMPLIFY it.

 

Keep it going.

 

If you keep amplifying the tension and

attraction at each of these wonderful moments,

good things will happen.

 

Good stuff.[/hide]

I think I've got this pretty good. Although, if you have a girl that can handle it, totally call her on her [cabbage] if she gives you signals then just stops. It's risky, but it worked for me today. I kinda dig that girl.

[muggiwhplar]

Food for thought, from one of the very few people who knows what they are talking about:

 

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=100386&fid=23

[VelvetEmber]

Y'know why I love highschool?

 

I broke up with my now ex girlfriend [the one that cheated on me like 14 times in 2.4 years] about 2 months ago. She meets a new guy within 2 weeks and is all over him. 2 months later, I get a girlfriend, and within 3 days she[my ex] goes into beserker hormone mode and becomes the harbinger of death. First she cuts herself. Then she says drugs are lookin' mighty fine. Then she tells the world over facebook she's contimplating suicide over jealousy. Then she tells me she's trying to break up with her boyfriend. Then she tells me she's still in love with me.

...

Literally 6 hours later she tells me that she's deided to stay with said boyfriend and get help for her depression issues that I never helped her with. Then she says that she loves him, and she feels like she should give him her whole heart, not just half of it, and that means getting over me. So now she's talking to my new girlfriend who's practically been having panic attacks of fear over what she [my ex] might do to her.

 

Oh yeah. Highschool?

Fun freakin' times

ooh crazy ex story time?

 

i had an ex, i dumped her like, 8 months ago, but we dated for 13 months. i dumped her because i was tired of her bs. she kept talking behind my back, cheating on me. i followed her one day to her town, and saw her have sex with 3 different guys, who were all being play, just like i was. but when i went out with Kassy (still am) it drove her crazy that i got over her so fast. she thought she had all of us in her mind game. i helped the other guys find this out by taking pictures of what happened. this girl is now known as a [bleep] in her town, and my school. all my friends, and people i never knew, had my back. i was confused. she apparently contemplated suicide and [cabbage] because of my actions.she also tried to break me and my girlfriend up millions of times all of them different reasons that have failed.

[Omar]

Food for thought, from one of the very few people who knows what they are talking about:

 

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=100386&fid=23

 

The first part about "all the other things", I get, the rest is really hard to understand...

[BlindBaker]

Food for thought, from one of the very few people who knows what they are talking about:

 

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=100386&fid=23

 

The first part about "all the other things", I get, the rest is really hard to understand...

I think it's trying to say you can show all the social value you want, but unless you actually HAVE it, women will see through it. Also, having that value boosts your confidence, and makes it hard to get rid of. Does that make sense?

[Omar]

That's what I sort of thought.

[Kalphite]

[hide=Background]

Generic Introduction here.

 

I'm in drama at my school on light crew, and this month we've been rehearsing for a statewide drama competition. Lighting people haven't had to start coming to rehearsals until last friday though. At the rehearsal on Firday I noticed a couple new people in lighting but I didn't really pay them much mind. At the end of rehearsal, Amy (the girl I went to homecoming with that turned out to be a lesbian and is in charge of lighting) told me that I had to be at the rehearsal that was this monday (MLK day so normally no school).

 

When I got there on monday, there was only one other person from lighting there, a new girl named Stacey (well I had known her before from my English class but never really talked to her or anything) who apparently was the only other one Amy told to come. Naturally I started talking to her early in the rehearsal, and as friday was literally her first day on lighting, she didn't really know all that much about it, so I showed her stuff like where to find things in the light booth, how to run the boards, etc. She was nice enough, and after I finished showing her around the booth we ended up sitting next to each other and watching the rest of the rehearsal (we didn't really have much else to do without Amy being there). We talked for most of the rest of the four hour rehearsal. I mean we did other things in between as well, like went on a little adventure throughout the open music rooms and auditorium to find something for a pit keyboardist and going up to the catwalks for a little while. As she was leaving I got her number and texted her for a little bit later in the night.

 

I didn't really talk to her that much until today, when we had another drama rehearsal (very little opportunity in the one class we have together). Though we didn't really talk much before the rehearsal (i mean we obviously both have other friends xD), She stayed by me for most of the rehearsal today too. We talked a lot again, especially when we were both in the booth running spotlights without anyone else up there, and there are a lot of breaks where we could talk.

 

By now, I want to ask her to the Snowcoming dance . It's coming up on February 6, so basically if I want to take her I'm going to have to act probably tomorrow. Now, here are the possible IOIs, I don't really know if any of them are legitimate.

-She talked to me for most of the rehearsal today even though some of her best friends were also there.

-Snowcoming eventually came up in our conversation on monday (well I sort of led it there xD), and she mentioned that she didn't have anyone to go with and didn't know if she'd even be going even though she was on student council planning it.

-I think i caught her staring at me in the light booth

-Towards the end of the rehearsal, Amy assigned her to do a spotlight and me to run the board in the auditorium. After like a minute she came down and sat next to me and started talking to me.

-Other people's relationships and that kind of stuff has come up multiple times when we talked on both days

-She always seems to follow me around in the auditorium and when Amy gives group instructions she always stands kind of close next to me.

 

Reading over this it seems kind of pathetic, but basically, does it seem like she likes me going off that? Seeing as I waited so late to post this I probably won't get a response before tomorrow when I'll probably ask her, but I just want some opinions.

[/hide]

 

I chickened out yesterday at the last minute.

 

Today, however, I asked her to snowcoming just as I was about to leave. She said maybe, and then explained that she didn't know if she could go yet or not, but if she could go then she would go with me. I guess I'll just have to see if this is a soft let-down or not, but I can hope.

 

EDIT: Guess not. She texted me later and said that she couldn't come because she had to sing at church and babysit and her parents wouldn't let her out of it or something. Ah well, at least rejections are getting easier to deal with.

[decebal]

[hide=Background]

Generic Introduction here.

 

I'm in drama at my school on light crew, and this month we've been rehearsing for a statewide drama competition. Lighting people haven't had to start coming to rehearsals until last friday though. At the rehearsal on Firday I noticed a couple new people in lighting but I didn't really pay them much mind. At the end of rehearsal, Amy (the girl I went to homecoming with that turned out to be a lesbian and is in charge of lighting) told me that I had to be at the rehearsal that was this monday (MLK day so normally no school).

 

When I got there on monday, there was only one other person from lighting there, a new girl named Stacey (well I had known her before from my English class but never really talked to her or anything) who apparently was the only other one Amy told to come. Naturally I started talking to her early in the rehearsal, and as friday was literally her first day on lighting, she didn't really know all that much about it, so I showed her stuff like where to find things in the light booth, how to run the boards, etc. She was nice enough, and after I finished showing her around the booth we ended up sitting next to each other and watching the rest of the rehearsal (we didn't really have much else to do without Amy being there). We talked for most of the rest of the four hour rehearsal. I mean we did other things in between as well, like went on a little adventure throughout the open music rooms and auditorium to find something for a pit keyboardist and going up to the catwalks for a little while. As she was leaving I got her number and texted her for a little bit later in the night.

 

I didn't really talk to her that much until today, when we had another drama rehearsal (very little opportunity in the one class we have together). Though we didn't really talk much before the rehearsal (i mean we obviously both have other friends xD), She stayed by me for most of the rehearsal today too. We talked a lot again, especially when we were both in the booth running spotlights without anyone else up there, and there are a lot of breaks where we could talk.

 

By now, I want to ask her to the Snowcoming dance . It's coming up on February 6, so basically if I want to take her I'm going to have to act probably tomorrow. Now, here are the possible IOIs, I don't really know if any of them are legitimate.

-She talked to me for most of the rehearsal today even though some of her best friends were also there.

-Snowcoming eventually came up in our conversation on monday (well I sort of led it there xD), and she mentioned that she didn't have anyone to go with and didn't know if she'd even be going even though she was on student council planning it.

-I think i caught her staring at me in the light booth

-Towards the end of the rehearsal, Amy assigned her to do a spotlight and me to run the board in the auditorium. After like a minute she came down and sat next to me and started talking to me.

-Other people's relationships and that kind of stuff has come up multiple times when we talked on both days

-She always seems to follow me around in the auditorium and when Amy gives group instructions she always stands kind of close next to me.

 

Reading over this it seems kind of pathetic, but basically, does it seem like she likes me going off that? Seeing as I waited so late to post this I probably won't get a response before tomorrow when I'll probably ask her, but I just want some opinions.

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I chickened out yesterday at the last minute.

 

Today, however, I asked her to snowcoming just as I was about to leave. She said maybe, and then explained that she didn't know if she could go yet or not, but if she could go then she would go with me. I guess I'll just have to see if this is a soft let-down or not, but I can hope.

 

EDIT: Guess not. She texted me later and said that she couldn't come because she had to sing at church and babysit and her parents wouldn't let her out of it or something. Ah well, at least rejections are getting easier to deal with.

 

Tbh, it sounds genuine, you shouldn't let yourself down.

[Kalphite]

no, i believe her, I already knew that she was in choir too so it's not like its anything unrealistic. It's just that I specifically asked her to that dance, not on a normal date I guess (meaning she might have been thinking we were going as friends or something like Amy did, then again Amy was gay), so I don't really know how to react to this now. I guess that would be my question then: Should I still be trying to date her or should I stop because of this?

[muggiwhplar]

Food for thought, from one of the very few people who knows what they are talking about:

 

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=100386&fid=23

 

The first part about "all the other things", I get, the rest is really hard to understand...

I think it's trying to say you can show all the social value you want, but unless you actually HAVE it, women will see through it. Also, having that value boosts your confidence, and makes it hard to get rid of. Does that make sense?

 

Well, not even that-- social value is just something that you make up to measure yourself and measure other people with. By believing in a concept such as "social value," you're weak to it and feel obligated to develop such a trait... but you really don't need to. What do you do when a girl does something to make you feel like you've lost some of your social value? Isn't it easier to just not believe in such a silly concept, and be unphased by whatever could cause such a threat?

[Omar]

So first, you should do all this self-improvement and fix a maximum of your shortcomings, so you can be the real deal. Then, you should stop worrying about social value, which is what you just worked on pretty much... It's not that I don't agree with most of what I understood, I just think I'm missing something here :P

[BlindBaker]

I'm starting to see a pattern here...

[Omar]

I'm starting to see a pattern here...

What pattern? I don't understand... ;)

[BlindBaker]

I'm starting to see a pattern here...

What pattern? I don't understand... ;)

Just seems like "not caring" comes up a lot here. Or maybe just not worrying.

[RpgGamer]

no, i believe her, I already knew that she was in choir too so it's not like its anything unrealistic. It's just that I specifically asked her to that dance, not on a normal date I guess (meaning she might have been thinking we were going as friends or something like Amy did, then again Amy was gay), so I don't really know how to react to this now. I guess that would be my question then: Should I still be trying to date her or should I stop because of this?

 

Don't let it deter you too much from her. The excuse sounded pretty legit to me. However if she gives you another excuse next attempt, take that as the hint to back off. This is a speed bump, not a road block.

[Omar]

Just seems like "not caring" comes up a lot here. Or maybe just not worrying.

Oh. I thought the pattern was me not understanding. Well, this is ironic.

[RpgGamer]

I wish I didn't have another update about this. But i just finished fighting with my ex for the past 7 hours. Lord have mercy. Somehow the conversation still ended in "i love you".

 

I'm pathetic aren't I?

 

I hope my current doesn't care

 

Oh crap...

[Iamdan]

Food for thought, from one of the very few people who knows what they are talking about:

 

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=100386&fid=23

 

I think this is just general knowledge though, probably not amongst the wannabe puras who take the specific techniques and routines too seriously.

 

Social value is hypothetical, but it''s still there in a way. Of course putting too much importance on it will cause problems.

[aquariusman]

I wish I didn't have another update about this. But i just finished fighting with my ex for the past 7 hours. Lord have mercy. Somehow the conversation still ended in "i love you".

 

I'm pathetic aren't I?

 

I hope my current doesn't care

 

Oh crap...

Who was the one saying "I love you". It seems like it would be worth it to drop her out of your life.

[Shazarabbit]

I wish I didn't have another update about this. But i just finished fighting with my ex for the past 7 hours. Lord have mercy. Somehow the conversation still ended in "i love you".

 

I'm pathetic aren't I?

 

I hope my current doesn't care

 

Oh crap...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it was your ex who said it. Don't tell your current girlfriend unless you plan on taking action on the situation. It will only cause more drama for your current relationship. Girls are [bleep]y, it's a fact. Well most are. Me, if my boyfriend told me his ex said she loved him, it wouldn't bother me. But you never know how a girl will react. It's like waiting for a bomb to explode.

 

If you were the one who said I love you, you need to be honest to yourself and your girl. Did you say 'I love you' to get her to shut up? Or do you really still care for her in that way? Of which you need to think about the reason's the relationship ended in the first place, and whether it is really worth getting back into it.

[Maxingmck]

lulz