Something written by the most awesome guy ever.

 

 

 

My two cents' worth:

 

 

 

Frenaskrae is the plane where the warriors who fought in the God Wars were called from. They were armoured well apparently, and were equipped with dragon weapons and armour before they were brought to Gielenor to fight. Thus, the case appears to be that Jukat (thought it used to be Jakut?) sells dragon weapons that came from this plane, from some stockhouses probably. Of course, they were made by the dragonkin, but then stored in Frenaskrae to arm the warriors.

 

 

 

Of course, that's pure speculation

 

 

 

What do you mean with that?

 

the only ones from Freneskae who fought in the God Wars where the Mahjarrat.

 

And they were brought here way before that.

 

 

 

No other warriors

 

That's my two cents, wich compared to your two cents is like fifty bucks.

 

 

 

No one knows that. During the God Wars, Zamorak was said to have called forth many foul and savage beasts new to Gielinor. It is entirely possible that he called over some of Frenaskrae's native species.

Something written by the most awesome guy ever.

 

 

 

My two cents' worth:

 

 

 

Frenaskrae is the plane where the warriors who fought in the God Wars were called from. They were armoured well apparently, and were equipped with dragon weapons and armour before they were brought to Gielenor to fight. Thus, the case appears to be that Jukat (thought it used to be Jakut?) sells dragon weapons that came from this plane, from some stockhouses probably. Of course, they were made by the dragonkin, but then stored in Frenaskrae to arm the warriors.

 

 

 

Of course, that's pure speculation

 

 

 

What do you mean with that?

 

the only ones from Freneskae who fought in the God Wars where the Mahjarrat.

 

And they were brought here way before that.

 

 

 

No other warriors

 

That's my two cents, wich compared to your two cents is like fifty bucks.

 

 

 

No one knows that. During the God Wars, Zamorak was said to have called forth many foul and savage beasts new to Gielinor. It is entirely possible that he called over some of Frenaskrae's native species.

 

So those natives were armed by the dragonkin? Or the dragon metal somehow found its own way into Frenaskrae?

Although someone has probably posted this(I haven't read all the replies) the elder dragons aren't related to the Dragonkin as you meet an elder dragon during Recipe for Disaster and they appear to be tiny little dragon things.

 

 

 

How do you know? What evidence is there of this? Clearly that tiny dragon thingy wasn't a true dragon, but what points to it being an elder dragon?

 

 

 

It's examine is "must be an Elder dragon" AND 'it is said that as long as Elder dragons continue to live,the world shall not end...'

 

A bit cryptic ain't it? :o

No one knows that. During the God Wars, Zamorak was said to have called forth many foul and savage beasts new to Gielinor. It is entirely possible that he called over some of Frenaskrae's native species.

 

So those natives were armed by the dragonkin? Or the dragon metal somehow found its own way into Frenaskrae?

 

 

 

Well... no one knows that either. Its possible that the fairy which says the dragon weapons are from Frenaskrae is left in there by mistake, which is what I find to be the most likely. If its not a mistake however, some other possibilities emerge. One is that the Dragonkin themselves are from Frenaskrae. This is not very likely, because they were said to have been enslaved by Jas to protect his stone before even the First Age. The Mahjarrat, along with the other gods apart from Guthix, came to Gielinor in the Second Age. This time difference between Jas supposedly pulling the Dragonkin into the realm of Gielinor, then the Mahjarrat coming in the Second Age, a time difference of thousands of years, is what kills this theory from me.

 

 

 

If the dragon weapons really ARE from Frenaskrae, then the explanation for this, to me, is that the Dragonkin made their dragon weapons with a power-link back to themselves. The more blood is shed and the more lives are taken with the weapons, the more power is transferred to them. In order to ensure a large amount of bloodshed, they sent their weapons, with their magic, to Frenaskrae, where they appeared, inexplicably, to the inhabitants there. They used these very strong, deadly weapons to kill their enemies, completely unaware that they were making the Kin more powerful. As for how they wound up here in Gielinor, it is possible that the Dragonkin put their weapons all over the place. After all they needn't fear their weapons being used against them, so why not proliferate them? Even if they were to be found, the Dragonkin would likely be immune to their own weapons.

 

 

 

That would be pretty cool though, fighting a dragonkin with a dragon weapon, every blow you land on them transfers power to them... its like trying to fill a sieve with sand!

No one knows that. During the God Wars, Zamorak was said to have called forth many foul and savage beasts new to Gielinor. It is entirely possible that he called over some of Frenaskrae's native species.

 

So those natives were armed by the dragonkin? Or the dragon metal somehow found its own way into Frenaskrae?

 

 

 

Well... no one knows that either. Its possible that the fairy which says the dragon weapons are from Frenaskrae is left in there by mistake, which is what I find to be the most likely. If its not a mistake however, some other possibilities emerge. One is that the Dragonkin themselves are from Frenaskrae. This is not very likely, because they were said to have been enslaved by Jas to protect his stone before even the First Age. The Mahjarrat, along with the other gods apart from Guthix, came to Gielinor in the Second Age. This time difference between Jas supposedly pulling the Dragonkin into the realm of Gielinor, then the Mahjarrat coming in the Second Age, a time difference of thousands of years, is what kills this theory from me.

 

 

 

If the dragon weapons really ARE from Frenaskrae, then the explanation for this, to me, is that the Dragonkin made their dragon weapons with a power-link back to themselves. The more blood is shed and the more lives are taken with the weapons, the more power is transferred to them. In order to ensure a large amount of bloodshed, they sent their weapons, with their magic, to Frenaskrae, where they appeared, inexplicably, to the inhabitants there. They used these very strong, deadly weapons to kill their enemies, completely unaware that they were making the Kin more powerful. As for how they wound up here in Gielinor, it is possible that the Dragonkin put their weapons all over the place. After all they needn't fear their weapons being used against them, so why not proliferate them? Even if they were to be found, the Dragonkin would likely be immune to their own weapons.

 

 

 

That would be pretty cool though, fighting a dragonkin with a dragon weapon, every blow you land on them transfers power to them... its like trying to fill a sieve with sand!

 

 

 

Maybe that's a hidden req if you ever fight against one. Wear NO Dragon stuff.

 

That would be pretty cool though, fighting a dragonkin with a dragon weapon, every blow you land on them transfers power to them... its like trying to fill a sieve with sand!

 

 

 

Wet the sand, then put it in the sieve! :thumbup:

 

That would be pretty cool though, fighting a dragonkin with a dragon weapon, every blow you land on them transfers power to them... its like trying to fill a sieve with sand!

 

 

 

Wet the sand, then put it in the sieve! :thumbup:

 

 

 

Hmmm

 

Enchanted Dragon Equipment...

=D> Wow! Very amazing research done to present this!

 

I Enjoyed reading it so much, it was very fascinating good job!! =D> =D>

Say, I just thought of something.

 

Appereantly you can talk to Juna during While Guthix Sleeps and she will mention the Balance Elemental.

 

This implies that she knows of the Stone and its guardians. Maybe she knows more things that she reveals...

 

 

 

Anyways, can someone get the exact transcript from that conversation. She speaks of it after you defeat the Balance Elemental and before Movario shows up (maybe she tells more after Lucien has taken the Stone, but this I do not know).

NO IDEA :thumbdown: :thumbup: =D>

 

 

Useless post for epic win =D>

 

 

 

Btw if Juna knows about the Element it doesn't necessarily means that she knows that he is the guardian ... she (Juna is she right o.O) might knew him before he became the guardian ...

NO IDEA :thumbdown: :thumbup: =D>

 

 

Useless post for epic win =D>

 

 

 

Btw if Juna knows about the Element it doesn't necessarily means that she knows that he is the guardian ... she (Juna is she right o.O) might knew him before he became the guardian ...

 

 

 

This is taken from the RS Wikia. Some confirmation of the authenticity might be handy.

 

 

 

Player: What do you think of Movario?

 

Juna: He is a villain. He and his Master seek power that mortals are not meant to have.

 

 

 

P: I'm trying to stop him.

 

J: Are you sure your intentions are pure? Look into your heart. A part of you seeks this power for yourself. You must reject this part, and be a faithful servant of Guthix in all things.

 

 

 

P: What is at the bottom of the chasm?

 

J: It is something that Guthix Himself hid, and it is not your place to uncover it. It is set aside for Guthix alone, and for a mortal to use it would be an affront to the cosmic order. That is all you need to know.

 

 

 

P: Will you try to stop him?

 

J: I have no need to. There is another guardian, more powerful than I, whom Guthix tasked to protect the prize. Movario will not succeed.

 

 

 

P: The Balance Elemental? I defeated it.

 

J: You are an enemy of Guthix. I shall speak to you no more

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Happy New Year! \

Awesome reading, I had to skip some parts though, everything related top the grandmaster quest, since I've not done it, I don't want any spoilers around ^^

 

 

 

Thanks for the reading, keep it up, if you ever need help to explore dangerous places in RuneScape for your researchs, I'm all available, not now since I'm not member, but if you ever need this kind of help, let me know on my blog

 

 

 

~J35

Talking to Juna during the quest was a great idea, I never thought of that #-o

Zomg wrong thread :wall: sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

But anyways, all this talk about wgs makes me want to quest lol. I cant wait for the 2nd grandmaster quest so i can hear you guys talk about it rofl \

Completed the Quest on 31rd of December \

 

 

 

Saw the cutscene after the exp rewards two weeks after (wasnt herbie 65 yet -.- )

 

 

 

I think that the Dragonkin have been bound to the Stone's power. They say the power 'resonates'. Perhaps the player's absorption of partial power of the Stone activated a link where the Dragonkin could tap power from? Just a guess. But it sounds possible to me...

Completed the Quest on 31rd of December \

 

 

 

Saw the cutscene after the exp rewards two weeks after (wasnt herbie 65 yet -.- )

 

 

 

I think that the Dragonkin have been bound to the Stone's power. They say the power 'resonates'. Perhaps the player's absorption of partial power of the Stone activated a link where the Dragonkin could tap power from? Just a guess. But it sounds possible to me...

 

 

 

I think it's more likely because the guardian is dead and the Stone has been moved out of it's hiding place. Still an interesting theory.

Say, I just thought of something.

 

Appereantly you can talk to Juna during While Guthix Sleeps and she will mention the Balance Elemental.

 

This implies that she knows of the Stone and its guardians. Maybe she knows more things that she reveals...

 

 

 

Anyways, can someone get the exact transcript from that conversation. She speaks of it after you defeat the Balance Elemental and before Movario shows up (maybe she tells more after Lucien has taken the Stone, but this I do not know).

 

Time for the Oracle again:if Juna knows about Stone of Jas and Elemental then why Oracle says that the great snake of Guthix(dramatic pause)guards more than she knows? Is there anything left?Maybe the Dragonkin in the same place?

If Juna says something different to you after you defeat the Balance Elemental, I wonder if Fiara will say something different, too.

If Juna says something different to you after you defeat the Balance Elemental, I wonder if Fiara will say something different, too.

 

 

 

It's only during the quest. After the quest Juna says nothing about it.

If Juna says something different to you after you defeat the Balance Elemental, I wonder if Fiara will say something different, too.

 

 

 

It's only during the quest. After the quest Juna says nothing about it.

 

 

 

I didn't say after the quest, I said after defeating the Balance Elemental. You can defeat the B.E. and then tele and bank. I did, because I thought I'd have to fight Lucien :ohnoes:

I have what I believe is confirmation of the large underground city beneth Castle Drakan. When you get caught by the Vyrewatch and get sent to the mines talk to any of the miners and ask them about the ore. I couldnt get my screenshots to work so I'll type it the conversation myself :roll:

 

 

 

Miner: We're mining for daeyalt. Don't rightly know what it does-we don't ask too many questions- but I've been doing it since I was a kid. The carts keep getting filled, and they keep going along the tracks. Goes to some huge refinery place, it does-massive, like another city under the earth.

 

 

 

Me: What? Have you seen this place?

 

 

 

Miner: Not myself, like, but other people I know of have seen it and they wouldn't lie!

 

 

 

So I trust this miner and I believe a city is there, though who lives there is hard to say, but obviously either Drakan/Dragonkin

I have what I believe is confirmation of the large underground city beneth Castle Drakan. When you get caught by the Vyrewatch and get sent to the mines talk to any of the miners and ask them about the ore. I couldnt get my screenshots to work so I'll type it the conversation myself :roll:

 

 

 

Miner: We're mining for daeyalt. Don't rightly know what it does-we don't ask too many questions- but I've been doing it since I was a kid. The carts keep getting filled, and they keep going along the tracks. Goes to some huge refinery place, it does-massive, like another city under the earth.

 

 

 

Me: What? Have you seen this place?

 

 

 

Miner: Not myself, like, but other people I know of have seen it and they wouldn't lie!

 

 

 

So I trust this miner and I believe a city is there, though who lives there is hard to say, but obviously either Drakan/Dragonkin

 

like Keldagrim?

I have what I believe is confirmation of the large underground city beneth Castle Drakan. When you get caught by the Vyrewatch and get sent to the mines talk to any of the miners and ask them about the ore. I couldnt get my screenshots to work so I'll type it the conversation myself :roll:

 

 

 

Miner: We're mining for daeyalt. Don't rightly know what it does-we don't ask too many questions- but I've been doing it since I was a kid. The carts keep getting filled, and they keep going along the tracks. Goes to some huge refinery place, it does-massive, like another city under the earth.

 

 

 

Me: What? Have you seen this place?

 

 

 

Miner: Not myself, like, but other people I know of have seen it and they wouldn't lie!

 

 

 

So I trust this miner and I believe a city is there, though who lives there is hard to say, but obviously either Drakan/Dragonkin

 

like Keldagrim?

 

 

 

That very well could be, but ask yourself, why would vampires be shipping the ore to Keldagrim?

^ They're making the dwarves process the ore before sending it off to Mourners who are building somesort of super death ray gun that shoots dark beasts at Camelot, meanwhile a million people all over tipit put 2+2 together and make 27 when it comes to these storylines.

 

 

 

The miner is probably referring to the city said to exist below Castle Drakan and Meiyerditch not actually Keldagrim..

^ They're making the dwarves process the ore before sending it off to Mourners who are building somesort of super death ray gun that shoots dark beasts at Camelot, meanwhile a million people all over tipit put 2+2 together and make 27 when it comes to these storylines.

 

 

 

The miner is probably referring to the city said to exist below Castle Drakan and Meiyerditch not actually Keldagrim..

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah thats what I was getting at...I don't know how that guy came up with Keldigram...

 

 

 

But I think thats pretty good evidence there is a city under Mortania