NoMoreDead Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 (I believe this constitutes it's own thread, and I don't think there is one which poses the same question. I think that the only thread like this is the one about paranormal experiences.) Over the last few years I've taken great interest in the paranormal. Through this interest I found one of my heroes, James Randi. For those of you who don't know about James, he is considered to be the world's most famous investigator of the paranormal, and offers ONE MILLION DOLLARS to any person who can provide evidence of the paranormal under proper observing conditions. Many have tried, but no one has claimed James' million dollars, and to this day no thing has ever crossed his path that passes his tests. I'd like to get your views on this. Do you believe in those who claim they communicate with the dead? Do you believe in psychics? Do you believe in metal benders or psychic surgeons? Do you believe in faith healing? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickeley102 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I believe in faith healing and whatnot. I believe people can be cured by outside forces. It happened recently to someone close to me. Meh. This is going to turn into one of those "Is god real...." Threads and flames will start licking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreDead Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Meh. This is going to turn into one of those "Is god real...." Threads and flames will start licking. I have no interest in discussing god here. Faith in other things, but not god. I'd prefer to leave that in the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Some paranormal-believers just debunk James Randi as being biased and scared of the truth, which is hilarious if you actually reviewed some of the applicants. The money will be paid out if somebody can actually demonstrate their supernatural skills or "abilities" in double blind testing and with precise computer technology. None of the applicants ever succeed in reading a sealed letter's contents, using telepathy or whatever they claim to do, once actually being tested. The sad thing is, these conmen and -women can go for years and scam people out of their money by 'supernatural' feats or fortunetelling, while doing nothing at all in reality. I'd go as far as saying some of them are delusional and detached from reality for even participating in the $1M challenge, because deep down they must've known beforehand that they really had no abilities to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 The sad thing is, these conmen and -women can go for years and scam people out of their money by 'supernatural' feats or fortunetelling, while doing nothing at all in reality. I'd go as far as saying some of them are delusional and detached from reality for even participating in the $1M challenge, because deep down they must've known beforehand that they really had no abilities to begin with. You hit the mark right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't believe in the paranormal, but hey, what if I turn out to be wrong? "I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him." IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Doesn't exist. This thread is now under surveillance by His Holy Inquisition. The Emperor Protects. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinjula Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Im a believer in a lot of paranormal things, particularly telepathy and empathy. I'm not very telepathic, but I am very empathic - I feel the emotions of those around me more strongly than my own. One of my favourite perspectives on it is that its a hyper awareness of those around you, much in the same way people pick up body language but in a far more intense way. I'm very Buddhistic in my attitudes, so to me the universe is one, we are connected to everything and everyone at a fundamental level, so hyper awareness can include a connection to people not in ones immediate vicinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 No. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Nothing paranormal has ever happened to me before so ill have to say no.. Can't remember from where, but a famous quote: The surest sign of intelligent life outside our planet is that they haven't tried to contact us. Thats not the exact quote but yeah, its the jist of it. O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 faith healing yeah, and to an extent some of the other things.... Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I believe there are elements/substances which we haven't discovered yet, but sometimes we use them without us knowing by accident and thus small things happen. Not bringing people back to life, not communicating with the dead, or anything, but like small healing and such. There is a video on YouTube or something about a guy living in the west though, that performs surgeries, with no blood (caught on tape), and has saved hundreds from lethal diseases, and believes that the devils or something overtake him and thus he is able to peform the surgeries. The video is somewhere on YouTube, hopefully someone can direct us to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I believe in the real ones just being able to stop their human ideas of the world getting in the way of perception in the world. But I don't even know if there are any real ones these days. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Humans only use 10% of the brain. Who knows? If a scientist uses 11% which is MUCH more, they still wont figure out if its possible to have supernatural powers. But, I believe in it - not werewolves or vampires, but more like telekenisis. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinjula Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Just out of curiosity and because im aware of the large number of christians on the forums, do those of you who believe in faith healing believe in faith healing for religeons other than your own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoi_Tu Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Humans only use 10% of the brain. Who knows? If a scientist uses 11% which is MUCH more, they still wont figure out if its possible to have supernatural powers. But, I believe in it - not werewolves or vampires, but more like telekenisis. We use most of our brain, not 10%. It's how we think and, you know, live. Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlefemm Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 There are a lot of things that happen in our world that are not easily explainable, I always find it interesting how people can in one breath profess to strong beliefs in various "unprovable" religious groups, and in the next say that anything paranormal or psychic is crap and doesn't exist. Even worse are those who consider any form of psychic gift to be some kind of evil thing. Ignorance is the cause of fear... I find the "super psychics", the ones who seek fame and glory and spend their time creating dramatic backdrops for their gifts all in the name of doing good to be pretty repugnant. I have no doubt that most of them do have some gifts, but the roads they took to deal with them are ugly and only serve to reinforce the negative reactions of people to the entire phenomenon of the psychic world. There is a pretty huge world community of people with gifts or curses depending on how you look at it who keep it mostly to themselves, because they feel no need to play to the hype, no need to be "known," no need to be believed. They can do what they can do and really could care less whether others want to debunk their abilities. They just live with them. Empaths exist. Telepaths exist. Healers exist. Paranormal phenomena exists. That's my stance. No one needs to get their ass on their shoulders about this--the_tallest1"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see."-- Arthur SchopenhauerMy deviantart gallery --- Turtlequirks Zazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 offers ONE MILLION DOLLARS to any person who can provide evidence of the paranormal under proper observing conditions. The one million is held in "negotiable bonds." The actual money the winner would receive may be much less than the expected amount. Hypothetically, the bonds could be completely worthless. And not "any person" can join -- as of April 2007, the challenge only accepts those with an existing media profile. The James Randi challenge should not be seen as some scientific refutation of the paranormal. The challenge aside, there is a huge body of peer-reviewed, scientific research that supports the existence of certain so-called "paranormal" events (ranging from cases suggestive of reincarnation to psychokinesis). Here's a short list of some of this research: An Assessment of the Evidence for Psychic Functioning (1995) Does Psi Exist? Replicable Evidence for an Anomalous Process of Information Transfer (1994) The Conscious Universe by Dean Radin - Chapter 1 The PEAR Proposition (2005) Engineering Anomalies Research (1987) More PEAR publications... Anomalous Mental Phenomena Research in Russia and the Former Soviet Union - A Follow Up (1992) More Cognitive Sciences Lab Publications... Observation of a Psychokinetic Effect Under highly Controlled Conditions (1993) More from The RetroPsychoKinesis Project... University of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies: Books and Articles about Reincarnation, Near-Death Experiences and other Phenomena In my opinion? The paranormal, by definition, is something that will always be out of our understanding. As soon as a paranormal phenomenon becomes naturally understood (e.g. via science), it is no longer seen as paranormal. I suspect that, with further research into the field, a similar shift in understanding will eventually occur in respect to the aforementioned research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 If telekinesis exists, I will force the next person to post WITH MY [bleep]ING MIND Made it smaller. Also: I believe if you can think it, it can happen. Just we make ourselves believe it can't, through our silly human physics and such. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinjula Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 The Randi Prize is no longer available (I believe) he withdrew it earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purfishx Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'm too scared to believe in it. Sigs by: Soa | Gold_Tiger10 | Harrinator1 | Guthix121 | robo | Elmo | Thru | Yaff2 Avatars by: Lit0ua | Unoalexi | Gold Tiger . Hello friend, Senajitkaushik was epic, Good luck bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomai Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The Randi Prize is no longer available (I believe) he withdrew it earlier this year. It's ending in 2010. http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/08/en ... james.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Totaly fake, defies all laws of science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Totaly fake, defies all laws of science So did gravity before everyone accepted it. I've had too many experiences to deny that things like that exist. From hearing foot steps when nothing was there, to seeing full body apparitions. Though I don't know i'd say ghost. Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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