Ginger_Warrior Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Her mom killed herself three days ago and she already has a step mom? She never knew she had a dad, much less that he had re-married. Don't ask. So in a way, she's actually dealing with two shocks at the same time then? Damn, that's heavy. It just underlines the need for her to receive professional help. I'm not saying friends are useless in helping her or anything like that, but she needs someone trained. What's stopping your parents from driving you? Are they callous [bleep]s or have you even told them? I live with my uncle, and they don't actually know anything yet... Tell him, or at least an adult close to you. Make sure you're OK first and you have someone to also talk to when it gets stressful. The #1 rule of First Aid is to make sure you're safe from any danger first. It's no different when dealing with someone who's thinking of suicide. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGuy Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, she's been on medication before, but her ex mom was, well... A druggie, an alcoholic, and.. well, nothing I can say on here without being censor pwnt. So I'll ask her about talking to her dad to get her to at least a therapist, and then a shrink preferably. I like stir fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, she's been on medication before, but her ex mom was, well... A druggie, an alcoholic, and.. well, nothing I can say on here without being censor pwnt. So I'll ask her about talking to her dad to get her to at least a therapist, and then a shrink preferably. Good idea. Professional help seems to be the best option here, and I suggest that you make sure that she is helped. I feel very sorry for her, she seems like someone who has been a victim of the bad side of life. Don't let it get you down either, it is not your fault in any way. I wish her all the best. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I just wanted to thank all of you... This means more than you know for me. Please, if you have any more advice, let me know. I appreciate all of your support and prayers, her name is Paine, for those of you who are praying. For more information, we text daily still and I try to talk to her at least once a day on the phone, and I think she's doing alot better... But yeah, I'm still reminding her how much I care about her, how much she means to me. Again... thank you, all of you. I'll keep on coming back until Paine is alright, I know how hard it must be on you. Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinjula Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 For gods sake, don't come on a game forum, especially not one based around a game aimed at 13-16 year olds with this sort of stuff. GET THEM SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!! There are plenty of charities who specialise in stuff like this, if you are in the UK, try phoning Mind and ask them their advice (If not in the UK there will be plenty of info in either your local paper or telephone book). They are trained professional, we are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 For gods sake, don't come on a game forum, especially not one based around a game aimed at 13-16 year olds with this sort of stuff. GET THEM SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!! There are plenty of charities who specialise in stuff like this, if you are in the UK, try phoning Mind and ask them their advice (If not in the UK there will be plenty of info in either your local paper or telephone book). They are trained professional, we are not. Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. With being suicidal in the past .. All I can say is be with her when she needs you .. Just help her all you can. That is the most helpful thing in the world when you are suicidal imo is just someone to talk to when you need someone. Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinjula Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. No, professional help from a psychiatrist, any mental health charity will be able to put her in touch with the psychiatric help she needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 She's still alive. Not determined enough to get it over with--and so there is a chance. You have been fueling her with positive feelings, since I'm sure you've been repeating how you care for her over and over again. I'm assuming that this is restoring her sense of purpose. Tell her that an international forum teeming with people of all ages heard a brief description of her, and is trying to rush to her aid. Tell her that anonymous people from anonymous locations have grown a collective, anonymous care for her, a care sprouting from your inexhaustible well of compassion for her. Tell her that she still has a reason to live. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purfishx Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Theres a suicide hotline I think. I'll pray for her. :pray: The joke there is that I repeatedly post on the religion thread that there is no such thing as god. http://www.instantrimshot.com Well that was relevant. :uhh: Sigs by: Soa | Gold_Tiger10 | Harrinator1 | Guthix121 | robo | Elmo | Thru | Yaff2 Avatars by: Lit0ua | Unoalexi | Gold Tiger . Hello friend, Senajitkaushik was epic, Good luck bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oegly41 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 She's still alive. Not determined enough to get it over with--and so there is a chance. You have been fueling her with positive feelings, since I'm sure you've been repeating how you care for her over and over again. I'm assuming that this is restoring her sense of purpose. Tell her that an international forum teeming with people of all ages heard a brief description of her, and is trying to rush to her aid. Tell her that anonymous people from anonymous locations have grown a collective, anonymous care for her, a care sprouting from your inexhaustible well of compassion for her. Tell her that she still has a reason to live. That is exactly what you should not do. Being over-positive towards her just reminds her of how miserable she is. What is important is really being "there". Don't tell any suicidal person how fantastic life it, it just reminds them how little you know about how they are. Just be there when they need you, and don't act any different than you normally would (considering you weren't actually mean to them). And why shouldn't this forum be consulted? Making a topic doesn't mean a professional won't be brought into the situation. How can this topic make anything worse? Filesharer.org - Upload your mugshot to support The Pirate Bay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bac_Talan Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The best thing to do to ensure that she doesn't commit suicide is to call 911 and get her to the emergency room ASAP. Something that worked for me in a similar situation was pointing out that they weren't trying to die, they were just trying to get rid of their pain. If you can convince her that there's a better way to get rid of the pain, you could get her efforts focused on something more productive and much less potentially destructive. I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.Pics or it didn't happen. I hate my generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureprayer Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 The best thing to do to ensure that she doesn't commit suicide is to call 911 and get her to the emergency room ASAP. Thats worse than leaving it alone. You are just broadcasting to everyone "I HAVE A PROBLEM" which lowers self esteem and kills you inside. This problem will take many months or even years to work out and will not come from a quick fix. Pureprayer, you're awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greene8535 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Try to get her involved with a positive religious group. I won't say which one. What she needs it a purpose for her life! So many people just don't think they have a reason to live, so they end their life. Suicide is really a tragic thing! An other thing I recomend is having her get involved with a soup kitchen or an organization that does something along those lines. That should get her eyes off of herself and her (Not so great) situation. As soon as she sees that she is blessed with all she has (No matter now much it might be) She might have some compassion for others, and think about them instead of herself. I don't really want to preach here, but I am giving what I belive is sound advice. I will pray for her. ~Greene8535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Try to get her involved with a positive religious group. I won't say which one. What she needs it a purpose for her life! So many people just don't think they have a reason to live, so they end their life. Suicide is really a tragic thing! An other thing I recomend is having her get involved with a soup kitchen or an organization that does something along those lines. That should get her eyes off of herself and her (Not so great) situation. As soon as she sees that she is blessed with all she has (No matter now much it might be) She might have some compassion for others, and think about them instead of herself. I don't really want to preach here, but I am giving what I belive is sound advice. I will pray for her. ~Greene8535 A good plan in theory but what if it backfires and now she's feeling sorrry for herself because she was paying more attention to herself rather than people who actually needed help? People are strange that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinPete112 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 *sigh* It's almost as if I've forgotten how to do that... hope. Idk.. Well, I've got one more day... All I can do is pray... Blah, anyone who else reads this thread know any helpful tips for a depressed insomniac? And if you have something to say about my friend, please... by all means post.. Not to come off as crude but, tell her to take a RECCOMENDED (<--Keyword) dose of sleeping pills/even Nitequill (sp??) and go to sleep. Tell her to keep doing this untill you can get to her. The sleep will make a diffrence by giving her energy/willpower. Tell her also, if she cannot bear school, drop out and get a job until next semester and start anew at another school. Be positive and stay on the phone with her. Ask her for her house number incase you ever need to contact her (or makeup an excuse). If she ever hangs up suddenly, gets irrational again, alert her stepparents/whoevers at home. Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. No, professional help from a psychiatrist, any mental health charity will be able to put her in touch with the psychiatric help she needs. Exactly the same as talking to a charity. All they do is sit and listen ... Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. No, professional help from a psychiatrist, any mental health charity will be able to put her in touch with the psychiatric help she needs. Exactly the same as talking to a charity. All they do is sit and listen ... That's a counsellor. Psychiatrists need a degree in Medicine, and are one of the few people allowed to diagnose patients and prescribe medication. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. No, professional help from a psychiatrist, any mental health charity will be able to put her in touch with the psychiatric help she needs. Exactly the same as talking to a charity. All they do is sit and listen ... That's a counsellor. Psychiatrists need a degree in Medicine, and are one of the few people allowed to diagnose patients and prescribe medication. Ill talk from personal here. Ive talked to charities councillors psychiatrists and other big named medical people. But In the end I found the charity the best simply because its like talking to a normal person not someone that wants you to swallow pills and label you with mental issues. Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Professional help from normal people that are volunteers .. Yeah oh so professional. No, professional help from a psychiatrist, any mental health charity will be able to put her in touch with the psychiatric help she needs. Exactly the same as talking to a charity. All they do is sit and listen ... That's a counsellor. Psychiatrists need a degree in Medicine, and are one of the few people allowed to diagnose patients and prescribe medication. Ill talk from personal here. Ive talked to charities councillors psychiatrists and other big named medical people. But In the end I found the charity the best simply because its like talking to a normal person not someone that wants you to swallow pills and label you with mental issues. Meh, I'd agree here. I had to talk to a psychologist once and I didn't feel any better about talking. I'd rather talk to friends that I know than a psychologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I dont see the use of a psychiatrist. I find telling someone who actually cares and loves you stuff much, much more important. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Psychiatrists aren't meant to be all warm and loving. They're not even meant to spend that long around patients. I'd look closer at the quality of your counsellors. They're the ones who should be making you feel accepted, and that all your options are open, and encouraging you to make choices, not them. The only problem is the role of a counsellor changes from place to place. Even state to state. Some states allow counsellors to make diagnoses, some don't. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Exactly why I hate psychiatrists. Wow, money for telling someone they're screwed up. It really helps. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGuy Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 To be honest, she did used to go to one before. However, she wasn't very... professional. They got into an argument and the doctor basically told her to [bleep] off after they had a bit of a fight >_> However, I would like to say that she is doing much better now, and.... We got together last week. n_n I'd like to thank each of you for your support, everyone's help in posting, I really have to say, I had almost given up. But I think that maybe we should keep this topic going, for other people who have friends who are suicidal or if even they them selves are. It's a welcome place that they know the people here, and they can trust them, the same reasons I created it here. I'm gonna edit the first post now, saying how anyone who needs help or has something they think would help someone, to please post. Again, thank all of yall sooo much... Yall rock. n_n I like stir fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oegly41 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 To be honest, she did used to go to one before. However, she wasn't very... professional. They got into an argument and the doctor basically told her to [bleep] off after they had a bit of a fight >_> However, I would like to say that she is doing much better now, and.... We got together last week. n_n I'd like to thank each of you for your support, everyone's help in posting, I really have to say, I had almost given up. But I think that maybe we should keep this topic going, for other people who have friends who are suicidal or if even they them selves are. It's a welcome place that they know the people here, and they can trust them, the same reasons I created it here. I'm gonna edit the first post now, saying how anyone who needs help or has something they think would help someone, to please post. Again, thank all of yall sooo much... Yall rock. n_n Great to hear that she is better! It seems like we're good at playing internet psychologists. \ If she is not all that serious about taking her life anymore, it is a sign that she is over the shock and reaction phase. This is when you can start with all the positive stuff. She is most likely a little depressed about the death about her mother, so telling her that there is still good in the world will not do any harm. (Still, don't be overpositive) Involving herself in charity or a religious group might be a good idea. I have been a lot better since I started doing activism with the political organisation Red Youth, and it probably won't do her any harm. Filesharer.org - Upload your mugshot to support The Pirate Bay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncdar2 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Shes 18, cronic cutter, no self esteem what so ever. Really [cabbage] situation at home, her mom just killed herself three days ago right in front of her, she had her blood on her face and everything. the step mom she has that she moved in with her dad hates her, she gets beat up when ever she goes to school.... Idk what to say anymore. =( I hope she'll be alright. Although I don't really pray she'll be in my thoughts. Edit: Before I read the entire topic I thought was suicidal, but she isn't anymore. ~Duncdar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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