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Student [Computer Scientist] here, second year of college. I know a fair bit of Java (worked with it for about a year), working on learning some Python and C/C++. Taken a little detour to learn about bash scripting, to simplify my life on Linux just a touch. Going to be taking an assembly course here in a few days, looking forward to that.

 

I am not to big on java but good luck with C/C++ and ASM you'll have some fun.

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I did a year of C++ in high school. After a semester of it in College though (just as an elective) I decided it wasn't really for me. I'd much rather just stick to the design and art side of things. :P

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Going to be doing this at Tafe (sort of like the Aussie version of college, yet different) Gonna be hard seeing as I am positive a guy I know and have been refraining myself from punching will be doing the course, and a friend of mine that I trust really well isn't starting till next year :?

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Well, what can I say?

 

 

 

My country uses a modification of free pascal for the main exams, so I've around 2-3 years of practice in Turbo/Free Pascal (it haz no gui btw). I would qualify for the exam easily, though the questions are quite hard, for ex.:

 

1)You cannot use the compilator. The variables are given, or the code that assigns them is given.

 

2)writeln(A[12], 'blah blah', x, ' whatver ', c:8:16);

 

3)Please now write EXACTLY (including spacing) what would the compiler output

 

 

 

Whatever, there's no more than 5 (different difficulty) exercises in the exam out of total of ~50? excercises (they do not give the same amount of points btw).

 

 

 

Then I like kinda have a year of experience of Delphi (basically it's pascal with GUI)

 

 

 

Then I have a year c/cpp(++). The compiler/linker (I think it was borland) was omg crap. It was kinda easy. Except all the random errors due to natural compiler/linker failure... Liek u rerun the same code and once it works the other time it just throws a random unrelated error. Gnu (used it later) was sooooo much better.

 

 

 

Then, MySQL/Postgre (the differences are minor). Worth noting I use it in addition to some other programming language.

 

 

 

And finally, roughly 4 years of exp in Java. In an 'academy' i've been in I've designed a "Bookstore sales management" client+server applications for convenient management. I was just simulating packet system at that moment by the way (encoded string tokens were sent, not binary).

 

And in java... I can design a GUI application, a data analyzer (which I'm using atm for high alch & GE prices), client-server protocols, a relative 'bot' (which would work on the screen).

 

 

 

Someone wrote .NET (former visual basic) is fast. Fast for someone to create a program using it? Because the performance is as awful as c#. Plus, even c/++ has wider cross-platform capabilites...

 

 

 

P.S. Yeah, I can code php and webpages (Like someone can't nowadays). Please note I will never do the design part because I really think hiring a programmer isn't the same as hiring a two-in-one programmer+designer.

 

 

 

P.S. The only thing I think I'm lacking is excellent ASM knowledge. That would make so many things so much easier.

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I've been thinking of getting into C/++ lately, preferably C (My favorite open source programs are written in it, like GIMP :P ) But I don't know where to start. Any suggestions?

 

Get some books and a C compiler. I think that Borland is freely available for Windows.

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I've been thinking of getting into C/++ lately, preferably C (My favorite open source programs are written in it, like GIMP :P ) But I don't know where to start. Any suggestions?

 

Get some books and a C compiler. I think that Borland is freely available for Windows.

 

MinGW is a good compiler too. It is basically gcc in windows.

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*Time to high jack this thread*

 

 

 

Anyone recommend any good C++ books and/or any good SDL books focusing on C++?

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Java, PHP, C++, ActionScript 3.0, ASP, C#, COBOL and I can write the ultimate basics in assembler.

 

 

 

In our school the focus lies on Java thou, which isn't always a good thing, specially for learning C++. I was baffled by memory pointers when we first had C++, since Java had made me very ignorant of those things ^^.

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Meh, I know PHP to the point that I can describe in detail how a program written in it would work, but when I go to write it nothing parses or works like I want it to. -.-

 

 

 

Sounds like me when I took Intro to Comp. Sci. The class was basically on basic Java programming; I had no problem understanding the algorithms and such, it was just the syntax and semantics that screwed me over #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think I baaaaarely squeezed by with a B, by the way :thumbsup:

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Meh, I know PHP to the point that I can describe in detail how a program written in it would work, but when I go to write it nothing parses or works like I want it to. -.-

 

 

 

Sounds like me when I took Intro to Comp. Sci. The class was basically on basic Java programming; I had no problem understanding the algorithms and such, it was just the syntax and semantics that screwed me over #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think I baaaaarely squeezed by with a B, by the way :thumbsup:

 

I would find it hard to take a computer science class in school. I would pry end up in a lot of arguments with the teacher over the way it should be done. Once you know the syntax to the language you kind of want to do things your way the things that they can be done a few different ways.

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About 3 years of Java and 1 of C, looked over some x86 and z80 assembly, but never wrote anything.

 

 

 

I would find it hard to take a computer science class in school. I would pry end up in a lot of arguments with the teacher over the way it should be done. Once you know the syntax to the language you kind of want to do things your way the things that they can be done a few different ways.

 

 

 

A halfway decent teacher wouldn't be like that, or so I hope. Unless they are teaching a specific data structure/algorithm, it should not matter to the teacher if you do things differently, so long as you reach the objective set out by the teacher. Oh, and if you already know the language, most of the time (in my High School at least) there is a lot of free time to code whatever you want.

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*Time to high jack this thread*

 

 

 

Anyone recommend any good C++ books and/or any good SDL books focusing on C++?

 

I'll give you three choices.

 

 

 

Introduction to Programming with C++ - Y. Daniel Liang - ISBN: 9780132254458

 

Starting out with C++ Brief Edition, 5th Edition - Tony Gaddis and Barret Krumpnow - ISBN: 9780321412911

 

Starting out with C++ Early Objects, 6th Edition - Tony Gaddis, Judy Walters and Godfrey Muganda - ISBN: 9780321512383

 

 

 

I have absolutely no clue about the prices of any of these, so I provided ISBNs for you to figure that out on Amazon. All three were a freebie from my Java professor. <3: I listed them in order of book size, so that should be least-expensive to most-expensive. I'd imagine that one of those would run above $50, though.

 

 

 

I would find it hard to take a computer science class in school. I would pry end up in a lot of arguments with the teacher over the way it should be done. Once you know the syntax to the language you kind of want to do things your way the things that they can be done a few different ways.

 

 

 

Sometimes I feel the same way, but I usually remember this statement that another professor made when I'm programming.

 

 

 

"Not everyone thinks the same way you do, and not everyone will declare their variables at the earliest convenience, so get used to it."

 

 

 

- This was after I griped about a code-reading assignment, people were declaring stuff out of freaking nowhere, and I was none too happy.

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I'm not currently experienced in any programming language, although I have a question for everyone. What is one of the most useful programming languages that isn't too hard to learn. Also, is there a good place to learn this either online or from a book most likely available in a local library. My high-school doesn't teach any programming classes but I'm interested in learning.

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I'm competent with delphi, and half decent with java.

 

 

 

I'm not currently experienced in any programming language, although I have a question for everyone. What is one of the most useful programming languages that isn't too hard to learn. Also, is there a good place to learn this either online or from a book most likely available in a local library. My high-school doesn't teach any programming classes but I'm interested in learning.

 

 

 

I would say start with delphi, it's a good language and easy to learn. (I posted a beginners tutorial here back in the day, I could dig it up for you if you want.) VB is also an easy language to start with, however I personally don't like it. Then maybe move on to java. Java is somewhat limited when it comes to applets interacting with the computer it is running on, but it is still powerful and cross platform.

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I'm not currently experienced in any programming language, although I have a question for everyone. What is one of the most useful programming languages that isn't too hard to learn. Also, is there a good place to learn this either online or from a book most likely available in a local library. My high-school doesn't teach any programming classes but I'm interested in learning.

 

Python's starting to build in popularity. It's easy and relatively painless to learn. Of course, if you're one of those programmers that are used to curly braces, or white space not meaning anything, it'll take some getting used to.

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I would personally go with PHP. You can start with procedural and advance into object-oriented. It's quite powerful. And it doesn't only run on web servers, there's a CLI version too. Otherwise, I think Python would be a good choice.

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What are all the uses for these languages? Are they all going to be able to do relatively the same thing? Are some more useful? In what ways?

 

 

 

Also, what would I use if I wanted to make a runescape stat signature or something similar to that? That's one thing I really want to try.

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What are all the uses for these languages? Are they all going to be able to do relatively the same thing? Are some more useful? In what ways?

 

 

 

Also, what would I use if I wanted to make a runescape stat signature or something similar to that? That's one thing I really want to try.

 

 

 

Some languages are learning languages, to help you start out. Languages like Java and C++ are object oriented, most of the programs you use would be written in those. Languages like html, Javascript and php are mainly web-based. In fact, these forums are written in php ;)

 

 

 

I've done a fair bit of Java, C++, Linux scripting, html and php. Haven't touched C or C++ yet, which I am planning to change soon.

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What are all the uses for these languages? Are they all going to be able to do relatively the same thing? Are some more useful? In what ways?

 

 

 

Also, what would I use if I wanted to make a runescape stat signature or something similar to that? That's one thing I really want to try.

 

PHP is a server-side hypertext-preprocessor. That means that it makes changes to HTML before it reaches your browser. Python is a more general-purpose code if I understand it right.

 

 

 

But if you want to make a stat sig, it would be PHP without a doubt.

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Ok, I know a bit of HTML and Javascript. I think that I will learn more of those and also learn a bit of Php, for all the website coding that I will ever do. Also, I think that I will learn something else, maybe Python, VB, C++, or maybe Delphi, whatever I can find a good tutorial on. Preferably one that doesn't just teach me how to do it, but also gives me instructions on how to make some basic program, because it's a lot easier to learn if I'm actually doing it.

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Now I am fairly food with Html, and I'm learning Javascript right now. Javascript is a fair bit more confusing though.

 

 

 

For anyone wondering, a good site to learn any kind of coding is http://www.w3schools.com/

 

I'm planning to learn Php next.

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