OldJoe Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Pic of the guy - http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2009/03/11 ... enden.html English version - http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03 ... index.html " Tim Kretschmer, 17, began his rampage at a school where he used to be a student in Winnenden, a small town about 20 kilometers (12 miles) northeast of Stuttgart, said KIoeller, of the police in the nearby town of Waiblingen. "The suspect broke into the school. He went into the classroom and shot wildly around himself and left the building and fled on foot," Hans Ulrich Stuiber, another police spokesman, said. Three teachers and 10 students were killed at the Albertville-Realschule Winnenden school, Kloeller said. The shooting, which began around 9:45 a.m. (4:45 a.m. EDT), lasted about two minutes, police said. Kretschmer fired shots into three classrooms, Kloeller said. On his way out of the school, the gunman killed a person who was working in a hospital nearby, then hijacked a car, taking the driver hostage. He drove to the nearby town of Wendlingen, where he let the driver go, Kloeller said. The driver alerted the police. Video More about the gunman's deadly route » Kretschmer was spotted by police in Wendlingen at around 12:20 p.m. (7:20 a.m. EDT) and shot two of them, injuring them. He then killed two more people before being killed himself in a shootout with police, authorities said." Seven people were also injured. --- I know you guys dislike news topics, but i thought this is quite important. I'm surprised, yet not. I really don't know what to say... I guess i'm just chocked and it's hard to grasp this. I really can't understand why these young people do this... Just the last 10 years, there's been several of these event... I really don't know why this is getting so "popular"... J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Only in Ameri- ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryjoe Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Horrible stuff. Seems it's always your stereotype outcast that does this kind of thing. Think they are sick of not being noticed and don't have the social skills to get along with other people so get angry at the world. It's so sad. I can't imagine how the families are feeling right now. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilya Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 not again! What's with all these phyco's? We have Filters for a reason. Don't bypass them.~Lionheart_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Only in Ameri- ... Only in America will you hear a joke like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryomancer Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Another kid who wanted to go down in a blaze of infamy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Another kid who wanted to go down in a blaze of infamy? It's scary that this sort of thing isn't just a unique occurrence. There's definitely a problem that needs fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Another kid who wanted to go down in a blaze of infamy? It's scary that this sort of thing isn't just a unique occurrence. There's definitely a problem that needs fixed. Armed security guards would help. Though people would [bleep] about the country becoming a police state. They want protection, but they don't want weapons. It's one or the other, you can't have both. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_burritos Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Why would anyone do this ? 10 minutes of fame ? People who do this, in my opinion are mentally ill, and should be treated as such. School kids, sheesh. Regarding the article, is there any information concerning why he did it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I want to know why he did it, not like that is going to change his mental illness though. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 There is only one solution: we attempt a fully-fledged communism. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameHawk18 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Why would anyone do this ? 10 minutes of fame ? People who do this, in my opinion are mentally ill, and should be treated as such. School kids, sheesh. Regarding the article, is there any information concerning why he did it ? Well, I heard a lot of motives for some shootings were inspired to "outdo Harris and Klebloid." :| But, considering this didn't happen in the US, I doubt that. Though, it's still a possibility that was the motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Another kid who wanted to go down in a blaze of infamy? I hope there isn't a guy on 4chan who said he wanted to do this. :| But in all seriousness, I'm not really concerned. This is like, the only school shooting I've ever heared from Germany. Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Armed security guards would help. Though people would [bleep] about the country becoming a police state. They want protection, but they don't want weapons. It's one or the other, you can't have both. I meant something should be done to prevent kids from even wanting to do this in the first place. In situations like these, usually more than just the kid is to blame. It could just as easily come down to the peers if they were bullying him, or the teachers and parents if they weren't taking proper action. We need a change here. I think most of our modern anti-bullying "techniques" are somewhat counterproductive. If you tell an adult, you'll just get picked on for being a tattletale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameHawk18 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Armed security guards would help. Though people would [bleep] about the country becoming a police state. They want protection, but they don't want weapons. It's one or the other, you can't have both. I meant something should be done to prevent kids from even wanting to do this in the first place. In situations like these, usually more than just the kid is to blame. It could just as easily come down to the peers if they were bullying him, or the teachers and parents if they weren't taking proper action. We need a change here. I think most of our modern anti-bullying "techniques" are somewhat counterproductive. If you tell an adult, you'll just get picked on for being a tattletale. Well, on the subject of tattling, it's just a lose-lose. You don't tattle, you get bullied more. You do tattle, the bully gets a short suspension or something, then continues to pick on you more for tattling. Not much you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I do think there are better techniques. For one - sticking up for yourself (but not looking like a doofus at the same time) seems to be obviously and brilliantly effective. Of course this doesn't come easily for many, and school administration cannot say this due to fear of parents suing. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Dang. And some guy in Alabama drove around town and killed at least ten people just walking around before killing himself the other day. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameHawk18 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Still, sticking up for yourself can have downsides. It can result in a fight, which, in turn can get you suspended yourself, if it's a word-against-word accusation. Kid A says Kid B bullied him, Kid B denies it. No proof that Kid B ever bullied Kid A. So it's word-against-word, in that case. :? Although, it can work. Most of the time I just say something witty that the bully doesn't understand, people go "wtf" and walk away. Or laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Regarding the article, is there any information concerning why he did it ? Maybe someone hacked his Runescape Points and Powers? :wall: It's pathetic teenagers are looking to use such drastic mesurements to justify their own cause. To kill INNOCENT people to prove a point? I'd make sure he was alive, and torture the little [cabbage]. I honestly cannot stand such stupid teens. Bullying, theres no way of stopping it, even with these attacks, fight clubs etc school kids are beating and killing each other more and more because of it, and the Teachers 90% response is "Its to tuffen them up". NO, Thats what a Sporting Club or prison is for, Schools are supposed to be safe. [throws brick at teacher] Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hate news stories. Always want to know the whole story.... maybe I should do some more law :? It would be so much more interesting if you had a run down on their life, feelings, friends, conflicts, difficulties, upbringing. The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I heard on the news all bar one of the people he killed in the school were female, good clue to his motive... The ones in America don't effect me much, but this one is so close to home, althought i'm a few countries away, it's the same kind of society in Germany as here in the Uk basically, kind of makes me glad i'm not still in school, we definately had some people who seemed mentally unstable where i was. What i'm wondering is how did the plice let 2 people get killed in the crossfire before he was killed. I know it was a small town, but it's near a major German city, i would have thought they would contain the area much better. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceBeam Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Why would anyone do this ? 10 minutes of fame ? People who do this, in my opinion are mentally ill, and should be treated as such. School kids, sheesh. Regarding the article, is there any information concerning why he did it ? I think you mean 2 minutes of fame. Wtf is with all of these problem people? Really, school shootings are starting to reach the level that we'll think it an everyday occurrence. Oh yeah, and I've thought of taking babies and throwing them. For funsies. - Lenticular J"Isn't it pathetic how everything in our society is built around someone screwing someone else out of their money?" - killerbeer0 on American SocietyRebdragon can't wiz a woz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Maybe Germany should consider a restriction on guns. :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 This is why I'm nice to people. If one of the emos in my school bring a gun one day, I cam remind them that I was nice to them. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hate news stories. Always want to know the whole story.... maybe I should do some more law :? It would be so much more interesting if you had a run down on their life, feelings, friends, conflicts, difficulties, upbringing. Though I doubt anyone would want to actually give someone who did something like this such positive encouragement as writing a biography of that person. Most of the people who do this kind of stuff are all the same, anyways. They were social outcasts who probably were bullied through school, they had uncaring parents and/or lived in a dysfunctional family. Just a whole bunch of negative factors that end up culminating into a severe mental illness and a desire to "get back" at the people who they percieved as wronging them in some way. This is why I'm nice to people. If one of the emos in my school bring a gun one day, I cam remind them that I was nice to them. Shooters generally don't pick and choose though. Maybe the class they go into, but once in there they just fire into the mass. You could try reasoning with them, but most likely you'd just end up dieing like a coward. Personally I'd just try to beat the [cabbage] out of them with a chair or something. If I'm going to die anyways might as well go down fighting. EDIT: Added some more useless details. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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