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In this case he will have to get his money back because they let him back in the game, so IF he did nothing illegal this time then hes fine and has to be refunded, if not he can sew them.




Sew them what? A new shirt?

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Well thanks a lot.

One of my accounts was recently unbanned for 'autoing' (which I might add I didn't do..) and now I see an announcement at the top of the page that says that you're going to be re-banning the accounts.



Well, I recently put a years membership on it ($140 AUD)

Will I get my money redeemed?




Harsh, but I lol'd.


Haha, ouch. As others have said, I think it is a bit much to re-ban him and cause him to lose all that money, considering that he has not done anything wrong since being unbanned. However, I think he may have sent in his money a little prematurely, it is a well known fact that Jagex doesn't like macroers too much.

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I say give them another chance. If they actually macroed, then the game is going to be boring training legitly. Also, if they have been banned for a while then any advantage they gained macroing is offset by the lengthy ban(except for the fact that they didn't gain the levels themselves)...



Give them a second chance, if they get caught again, drop the ban-hammer.



off topic: Honestly, I don't see macroing as a terrible thing. Runescape is a grinding game that is very repetative. Macroing teaches a low-level real life skill (programming/scripting). In my opinion, it would be pretty cool if Jagex implemented their own macroing system. Make it so you have to develop your own code and that copying code results in revoking the privilage. Because there is no copy and paste in runescape, the only way people would be able to do this is to type it all out and then someone else copies it.



Similiar to how schools teach programming languages, if some code is similar, both the person who copies and the person who gave them the code would have the privilege revoked.



I'm sure there are many flaws in this like similar code by coincidence and I'm also sure that many people will disagree with this, and I'm positive this would never be implemented, but it's kind of a fun idea.
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Thats unfair on Jagex's part. You can't unban them then reban them. That seems a bit wrong.




It may be wrong, or even immortal or sadistic, but it's all ok to do, legally at least. After all, remember that ultimately, JAGEX owns all the accounts and all of the items/achievements on it, NOT you.

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it's happened before, they unbanned a handful of players and they paid for whatever amount of membership before getting rebanned due to a "mistake" as jagex referred to it. they refunded those players
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it's happened before, they unbanned a handful of players and they paid for whatever amount of membership before getting rebanned due to a "mistake" as jagex referred to it. they refunded those players


I was about to post about how it is fair to re-ban the accounts, but that they should definitely be refunded. If that is true, then hopefully they'll refund this time too. If not, Jagex will be pretty much screwed by the bad reputation :?

It's definitely fair to re-ban the macroers, they deserved the bans to begin with, but they better get their money back for any new memberships they made, because that's completely unfair, it would be like an unintentional scam based on accidental misinformation from Jagex :?

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They might have actually unbanned you because they saw their mistake. Wait it out.



off topic: Honestly, I don't see macroing as a terrible thing. Runescape is a grinding game that is very repetative. Macroing teaches a low-level real life skill (programming/scripting). In my opinion, it would be pretty cool if Jagex implemented their own macroing system. Make it so you have to develop your own code and that copying code results in revoking the privilage. Because there is no copy and paste in runescape, the only way people would be able to do this is to type it all out and then someone else copies it.




What part of this sounds like a good idea exactly? :|
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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.



It seems like a similar thing here- Jagex, the judge, decided to unban the characters. To go back in and re-ban them seems to be a violation of rights. I know it's a stretch, but video game law in itself is a stretch.

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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.



It seems like a similar thing here- Jagex, the judge, decided to unban the characters. To go back in and re-ban them seems to be a violation of rights. I know it's a stretch, but video game law in itself is a stretch.


Interesting way of putting it... But I see it as more of a case that the prison warden was letting people out because they had finished their sentences, but someone screwed up the paperwork, so some people who had the life sentence* were let out by mistake, and had to be locked up again :?

What I'm mainly concerned with is that they'd better get their money back nonetheless, because that part is definitely unfair, regardless of how one looks at it.



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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.



It seems like a similar thing here- Jagex, the judge, decided to unban the characters. To go back in and re-ban them seems to be a violation of rights. I know it's a stretch, but video game law in itself is a stretch.


Interesting way of putting it... But I see it as more of a case that the prison warden was letting people out because they had finished their sentences, but someone screwed up the paperwork, so some people who had the life sentence* were let out by mistake, and had to be locked up again :?

What I'm mainly concerned with is that they'd better get their money back nonetheless, because that part is definitely unfair, regardless of how one looks at it.



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Another example goes back a few hundred years, when people who somehow survived hangings were given the right to life. In a way, these people survived their hangings, and I believe they get a right to life.

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In this case he will have to get his money back because they let him back in the game, so IF he did nothing illegal this time then hes fine and has to be refunded, if not he can sew them.




We also do not give refunds to players who have been banned from the game for violating the terms and conditions of use, including the Rules of RuneScape.




Good luck




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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.






Lol @ comparing a game to criminal trials
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Definitely against Jagex on this one.



It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.






Lol @ comparing a game to criminal trials


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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.






Lol @ comparing a game to criminal trials




Wasn't that also the basis of a TV movie? I can't remember the name.
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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.


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Good on you Jagex. Show them cheaters who's Boss.



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Actually Jagex clearly states that once you got permanently banned for macroing, you will not get unbanned. Everyone who read the rules at least twice knows that, and everyone that has a macro-or-related permabanned account knows that even if you submit 20 appeals during different time periods, they all will be denied (that's why I'm not even trying to use the newly issued appeal chance).



So lets summarize up:

They knew they will not get unbanned.

They paid for a permabanned account.



Sorry, but I can see only their fault here.

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Found this on the RSOF:



Well thanks a lot.

One of my accounts was recently unbanned for 'autoing' (which I might add I didn't do..) and now I see an announcement at the top of the page that says that you're going to be re-banning the accounts.



Well, I recently put a years membership on it ($140 AUD)

Will I get my money redeemed?




Harsh, but I lol'd.

fail, hehe. It does say in the terms and conditions there are no refunds if you get banned.




Sigh: and it also says that the terms can never be higher than the local player's laws: and -at least in the netherlands- the law is that you GET a refund: so if that player wants he could always force a refund...

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It's illegal in the United States (according to the constitution) and the UK (common law) to retry someone a second time for the same crime. It's called double jeopardy.






Lol @ comparing a game to criminal trials




Wasn't that also the basis of a TV movie? I can't remember the name.




It was a real movie. Double Jeopardy, with Tommy Lee Jones and whatnot.





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