This means that prosecution may become possible, a huge boon to both the gameing and software industrys.

 

 

 

Allow me to sound really calus and awful for a minute, and let my practical side speak. The upside to all the job losses is that this might facilitate a population drop that could be of great benifit to china.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds awful, but thats what you get when you separate the emotional and practical thinking processes.

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this. A 146million dollar a year industry must have quite a few workers if they are paying them such low salaries.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

 

 

More importantly;

 

 

 

If a company is operating illigitemately in China, it means they're probably not report income on their taxes. Not doing so, should they be caught illegally operating a business, would constitute tax fraud. In China, an act as simple as Tax Fraud can carry the death penalty.

 

 

 

But wait, there's more! China rolled out a legion of death busses, roaming on-the-go lethal injections to anywhere in China to deal with the high number of executions performed every year (China executes more per 100,000 than any other country, and those are just confirmed. The real number is kept a state secret). And I do mean anywhere.

 

 

 

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

First, Spriroff90, who do not let people eat? Do you know how many percent of people can not eat in China? China will be No2 total GDP in the world this year, only difference is they may not have as good and plenty food as we have. People will go hungragy there, that is your assumption.

 

Second, Great_one, please have have a visit to China and see what is going on there. Do not imagine something you do not know at all.

 

I was there and things are so much different than what I was told from media and books. China is changing, very fast, all the time. People need to update their picture of China often.

I think it is too politically here. We are discussing about game. However, too many people with too limited knowledge about China are attacking China with a lot assumptions. I think this should go to some other forum, not in the game discussion. I suggest forum MOD lock this thread or we stop argue about political things.

This means that prosecution may become possible, a huge boon to both the gameing and software industrys.

 

 

 

Allow me to sound really calus and awful for a minute, and let my practical side speak. The upside to all the job losses is that this might facilitate a population drop that could be of great benifit to china.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds awful, but thats what you get when you separate the emotional and practical thinking processes.

True. Very true. A large population drop in mainland China WOULD ensure that the survivors are far, far wealthier. But, if we let emotion, morals, and ethics enter in it becomes... abominable. Because people, regardless of who or where are more than just numbers.

 

 

 

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

First, Spriroff90, who do not let people eat? Do you know how many percent of people can not eat in China? China will be No2 total GDP in the world this year, only difference is they may not have as good and plenty food as we have. People will go hungragy there, that is your assumption.

 

Second, Great_one, please have have a visit to China and see what is going on there. Do not imagine something you do not know at all.

 

I was there and things are so much different than what I was told from media and books. China is changing, very fast, all the time. People need to update their picture of China often.

What media and what books? If I cited sources about the American Civil War from a book titled "Stopping the Confederacy: Halting a Great Evil" I'd get laughed off this forum. Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics? Giving the citizens more rights? Is their population decreasing? And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful? A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

Why aren't the scamming goldfarmers 'banned' compared to the people who actually conduct business?

 

 

 

Goldfarming is up to the game makers to police, not entire nations. Seems...asinine.

Why aren't the scamming goldfarmers 'banned' compared to the people who actually conduct business?

 

 

 

Goldfarming is up to the game makers to police, not entire nations. Seems...asinine.

They are banned... but they make a new account five minutes later.

 

 

 

Armed robbery is up to stores and banks to police, not entire nations. Seems... asinine.

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This means that prosecution may become possible, a huge boon to both the gameing and software industrys.

 

 

 

Allow me to sound really calus and awful for a minute, and let my practical side speak. The upside to all the job losses is that this might facilitate a population drop that could be of great benifit to china.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds awful, but thats what you get when you separate the emotional and practical thinking processes.

True. Very true. A large population drop in mainland China WOULD ensure that the survivors are far, far wealthier. But, if we let emotion, morals, and ethics enter in it becomes... abominable. Because people, regardless of who or where are more than just numbers.

 

 

 

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

First, Spriroff90, who do not let people eat? Do you know how many percent of people can not eat in China? China will be No2 total GDP in the world this year, only difference is they may not have as good and plenty food as we have. People will go hungragy there, that is your assumption.

 

Second, Great_one, please have have a visit to China and see what is going on there. Do not imagine something you do not know at all.

 

I was there and things are so much different than what I was told from media and books. China is changing, very fast, all the time. People need to update their picture of China often.

What media and what books? If I cited sources about the American Civil War from a book titled "Stopping the Confederacy: Halting a Great Evil" I'd get laughed off this forum. Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics? Giving the citizens more rights? Is their population decreasing? And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful? A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

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Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

Then what? I have been to China and you did not.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics?

 

What ethics? There is no universal one. There are religions and others. Something you think right does not need to be correct from others.

 

 

 

Giving the citizens more rights?

 

If compare it with 30 years ago or even 10 years ago, then they do have more. They are getting better. This is called more.

 

 

 

Is their population decreasing?

 

Do you have the knowledge of population? Let me tell you. If their peak birth rate is at 1970s ( might be 1960s ), those people need to be old enough to die before the total population number to go down. Plus people are living longer than before, this will also be a big factor. They need another 20-50 years ( not sure, but not now ) to get the population number down. It is not that you announce one child policy then the population will go down immediately.

 

 

 

And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful?

 

Like atomic power, it has both sides. You and me can not give a judge of the changes of China to the whole world. It might be bad for someone, and good for others. From economcs point of view, China is doing good things to the world to help us from the finance crisis now. If they use the money on weapons while not to the people, then it is a bad thing.

 

 

 

A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

 

It does mean less people go hungray. Every country has rich and poor. The most important thing is to reduce the difference between the rich and poor. Even you are rich, if the gap is too big, still a lot of people will go hungry. I have not check over the last 10 years, who it doing better.

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This means that prosecution may become possible, a huge boon to both the gameing and software industrys.

 

 

 

Allow me to sound really calus and awful for a minute, and let my practical side speak. The upside to all the job losses is that this might facilitate a population drop that could be of great benifit to china.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds awful, but thats what you get when you separate the emotional and practical thinking processes.

True. Very true. A large population drop in mainland China WOULD ensure that the survivors are far, far wealthier. But, if we let emotion, morals, and ethics enter in it becomes... abominable. Because people, regardless of who or where are more than just numbers.

 

 

 

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

First, Spriroff90, who do not let people eat? Do you know how many percent of people can not eat in China? China will be No2 total GDP in the world this year, only difference is they may not have as good and plenty food as we have. People will go hungragy there, that is your assumption.

 

Second, Great_one, please have have a visit to China and see what is going on there. Do not imagine something you do not know at all.

 

I was there and things are so much different than what I was told from media and books. China is changing, very fast, all the time. People need to update their picture of China often.

What media and what books? If I cited sources about the American Civil War from a book titled "Stopping the Confederacy: Halting a Great Evil" I'd get laughed off this forum. Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics? Giving the citizens more rights? Is their population decreasing? And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful? A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

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Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

Then what? I have been to China and you did not.

 

Been there, shmeen there. In what capacity? As a tourist? Government agent? Spy? Missionary? The latter three are far more credible, actually interacting with the government or populace.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics?

 

What ethics? There is no universal one. There are religions and others. Something you think right does not need to be correct from others.

 

Ethics are universal. Name one, just one, civilization that prizes dishonor over honor. That prizes evil over good.

 

 

 

Giving the citizens more rights?

 

If compare it with 30 years ago or even 10 years ago, then they do have more. They are getting better. This is called more.

 

But to they have adequate rights? Do they vote for their ruler? Are they allowed to go where ever, within reason, they want at any reasonable time? Are they allowed a fair trial by a jury of their peers? Freedom of speech?

 

 

 

Is their population decreasing?

 

Do you have the knowledge of population? Let me tell you. If their peak birth rate is at 1970s ( might be 1960s ), those people need to be old enough to die before the total population number to go down. Plus people are living longer than before, this will also be a big factor. They need another 20-50 years ( not sure, but not now ) to get the population number down. It is not that you announce one child policy then the population will go down immediately.

 

 

 

And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful?

 

Like atomic power, it has both sides. You and me can not give a judge of the changes of China to the whole world. It might be bad for someone, and good for others. From economcs point of view, China is doing good things to the world to help us from the finance crisis now. If they use the money on weapons while not to the people, then it is a bad thing.

 

From an ethical, political, and religious point of view, they're doing terribly. Sure, economically they're well off, in a hive mind sort of way, but so was the Roman Catholic church in the 1500s. Furthermore, mechanization is not very useful when manual labor is so much cheaper. That was what I meant.

 

 

 

A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

 

It does mean less people go hungray. Every country has rich and poor. The most important thing is to reduce the difference between the rich and poor. Even you are rich, if the gap is too big, still a lot of people will go hungry. I have not check over the last 10 years, who it doing better.

 

Britain. America. Japan. France. They all do it better. Why? Well, even bums in New York City can, at the very least, scrape together at least one meal a day in between charity and state sponsored programs. Furthermore, these nations all have a healthily large middle class.

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics?

 

What ethics? There is no universal one. There are religions and others. Something you think right does not need to be correct from others.

 

Ethics are universal. Name one, just one, civilization that prizes dishonor over honor. That prizes evil over good.

 

 

 

 

Stop talking complete rubbish.

 

 

 

Honour and Good are morals not ethics.

 

 

 

Equally most people universally agree that no-one is complete good or bad, theres many shades of grey.

 

 

 

Plus ethics are NOT universal.

 

 

 

To those who like the death penalty it is ethical to kill criminals

 

To those agaisnt it, it is un-ethical.

 

 

 

To those who are white supremecists or other such radical parties/groups it is ethical to discriminate of race, sexuality, religion etc etc

 

To most of us it is not.

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This means that prosecution may become possible, a huge boon to both the gameing and software industrys.

 

 

 

Allow me to sound really calus and awful for a minute, and let my practical side speak. The upside to all the job losses is that this might facilitate a population drop that could be of great benifit to china.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds awful, but thats what you get when you separate the emotional and practical thinking processes.

True. Very true. A large population drop in mainland China WOULD ensure that the survivors are far, far wealthier. But, if we let emotion, morals, and ethics enter in it becomes... abominable. Because people, regardless of who or where are more than just numbers.

 

 

 

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

First, Spriroff90, who do not let people eat? Do you know how many percent of people can not eat in China? China will be No2 total GDP in the world this year, only difference is they may not have as good and plenty food as we have. People will go hungragy there, that is your assumption.

 

Second, Great_one, please have have a visit to China and see what is going on there. Do not imagine something you do not know at all.

 

I was there and things are so much different than what I was told from media and books. China is changing, very fast, all the time. People need to update their picture of China often.

What media and what books? If I cited sources about the American Civil War from a book titled "Stopping the Confederacy: Halting a Great Evil" I'd get laughed off this forum. Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics? Giving the citizens more rights? Is their population decreasing? And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful? A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

 

 

 

Few, very few, sources are completely unbiased.

 

Then what? I have been to China and you did not.

 

Been there, shmeen there. In what capacity? As a tourist? Government agent? Spy? Missionary? The latter three are far more credible, actually interacting with the government or populace.

 

 

 

And, true, China is changing, and fast. But are they changing their ethics?

 

What ethics? There is no universal one. There are religions and others. Something you think right does not need to be correct from others.

 

Ethics are universal. Name one, just one, civilization that prizes dishonor over honor. That prizes evil over good.

 

 

 

Giving the citizens more rights?

 

If compare it with 30 years ago or even 10 years ago, then they do have more. They are getting better. This is called more.

 

But to they have adequate rights? Do they vote for their ruler? Are they allowed to go where ever, within reason, they want at any reasonable time? Are they allowed a fair trial by a jury of their peers? Freedom of speech?

 

 

 

Is their population decreasing?

 

Do you have the knowledge of population? Let me tell you. If their peak birth rate is at 1970s ( might be 1960s ), those people need to be old enough to die before the total population number to go down. Plus people are living longer than before, this will also be a big factor. They need another 20-50 years ( not sure, but not now ) to get the population number down. It is not that you announce one child policy then the population will go down immediately.

 

 

 

And, if so, fast enough to make the changes useful?

 

Like atomic power, it has both sides. You and me can not give a judge of the changes of China to the whole world. It might be bad for someone, and good for others. From economcs point of view, China is doing good things to the world to help us from the finance crisis now. If they use the money on weapons while not to the people, then it is a bad thing.

 

From an ethical, political, and religious point of view, they're doing terribly. Sure, economically they're well off, in a hive mind sort of way, but so was the Roman Catholic church in the 1500s. Furthermore, mechanization is not very useful when manual labor is so much cheaper. That was what I meant.

 

 

 

A large GDP means nothing if the populace is several magnitudes larger.

 

It does mean less people go hungray. Every country has rich and poor. The most important thing is to reduce the difference between the rich and poor. Even you are rich, if the gap is too big, still a lot of people will go hungry. I have not check over the last 10 years, who it doing better.

 

Britain. America. Japan. France. They all do it better. Why? Well, even bums in New York City can, at the very least, scrape together at least one meal a day in between charity and state sponsored programs. Furthermore, these nations all have a healthily large middle class.[/hide]

 

 

 

This will be my last post with you. Everyone has the right to say their opinion. Only problem is that ou seems hate China very much. Everything in your eye is bad. That can not be true. A bad person can do good thing. You are trying to raise a lot of facts that China is bad to prove you. As I told you about the population, you can be wrong. The point is, you made too many assumptions.

 

 

 

Britain. America. Japan. France. They all do it better. Why? Well, even bums in New York City can, at the very least, scrape together at least one meal a day in between charity and state sponsored programs. Furthermore, these nations all have a healthily large middle class.

 

As I said, you need to compare, not the abusolute value. China was poor, you need to compare the change. They can not be good in a day. This applies to every thing. They start to ban the goldfarmer, this is good. Even they only ban one. It is still better than before, they are making progress. Have you checked any data of these counties of last ten years before you post? Give food in New york city will not prove they are doing better over the last ten years. If they gave more ten years ago, then it is worse. Use facts and data, not assumptions.

 

Back to the topic, I like to see if that can do something, although it might turn out to be not so effective. This is a good move. Goldfarmers is really a very tiny group of people and they are mainly not from the poorest. I do not think people will go hungrary because they stop goldfarming for a game.

 

If you go to the public computer places in China, ( they call it "computer bar" or "internet bar" ), more than 80% are young people. More than 30% of them ( this is based on 4 different "bars" I was there ) are playing WoW. They just play for fun. What I want to say that I guess pure goldfarmers ( work for companies) might not be that much percentage as we feel. No one is playing Runescape :thumbdown: . The problem is if people play for fun and sell their gold at the same time. That will still be a large number.

 

If more stolen credit cards are used in the virual game, more and more countries will ban RWT. I do not believe any government cares about fair and enjoyble of our games. RWT will cause more problems in real world.

The gold farmers are selling something that does not belong to them. That makes them scammers/frauds. They are selling it to cheats/cheaters. Screw both ends of it, the buyers and the sellers. I personally don't care if either end eats. They are no diferent than any other scammer and should be dealt with very harshly.

 

 

 

Too bad other countries don't adopt the Chinese regulations on underage internet usuage. Wouldn't mind if everyone had an internet I.D. card either as it would definitely put a crimp in identity theft. Nigeria should seriously adopt that practice with all the scams coming out of there.

With that much money involved there is nothing that can stop them. Once that government figures out how to tax it GAME ON!

Britain. America. Japan. France. They all do it better. Why? Well, even bums in New York City can, at the very least, scrape together at least one meal a day in between charity and state sponsored programs. Furthermore, these nations all have a healthily large middle class.

 

 

 

Try setting a minimum wage for a huge population?

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure you are using extreme selective perception. What is your data? How do you know all bums in NYC eat a meal every day? Or are you just inferring that?

 

 

 

I'd like to know where you backing is for what you are saying. I don't want to be rude, but it seems to me you are just pulling stuff out of thin air to support you.

Britain. America. Japan. France. They all do it better. Why? Well, even bums in New York City can, at the very least, scrape together at least one meal a day in between charity and state sponsored programs. Furthermore, these nations all have a healthily large middle class.

 

 

 

Try setting a minimum wage for a huge population?

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure you are using extreme selective perception. What is your data? How do you know all bums in NYC eat a meal every day? Or are you just inferring that?

 

 

 

I'd like to know where you backing is for what you are saying. I don't want to be rude, but it seems to me you are just pulling stuff out of thin air to support you.

Ok, yes, I'm not citing sources but, to be fair, neither are you.

 

 

 

A lot of what I'm saying comes from what I'd like to call personal experience. I live in Texas, a border state. I have friends, some of which have parents who are illegals. Others are second generation or third. But they're not starving. Their parents have minimal skills, but still manage to easily feed their families with hard work. Heck, my grandad was raised as a single child, back in the 20s due to a work related accident. I.E. he had nothing. He died a multi millionaire, including, of course, property and stocks.

 

 

 

My point? These are people I know or knew who had little or nothing, and some of which who are still lower class, who not only manage to feed themselves, but thrive and are steadily getting better. Does China have that?

 

 

 

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http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... tid=121964

 

There's a bit of proof. In a study conducted, it was found that the average monthly income of panhandlers, i.e. beggars, was 300$ strictly from begging, about 650$ with other sources. Going with the former number, that's 10$ a day in your average month, a little more or less. Let's take half of that and say it goes to other necessities/amenities. Surely, 5$ should be adequate for at least a single meal- heck, you could just buy four of whatever from the McDonald's Dollar Menu with tax. You could buy forty or so packages of instant ramen. True, this is not very nutritious sustenance, but the point here is that they are getting the single meal a day I attested they could.

Btw I can eat like a pig for a day with 2$ ... you dont need to count the food in "McDonaldz", if you understand me ...

 

 

 

And if ramen is anything near spaghuetti (and IMO its a lot like spaghuetti) its cheap and yeah its nutritious.

 

 

 

It all depends on the country .. TBH I need like 250$ per month to live with no limitations (most of which are just to rent an apartment) I dont think its different in China/Japan/anyother similiar country.

 

 

 

How to put it in words - my father is able to "feed" (dang I cant find a better word) me, my mother, syster, her child and my gradnma with 1000$ per month (and to be honest most of them go for coca cola and cigarettes so why should I care about goldfarmers who can make up to (put a random amount of money in here).

 

 

 

In short - 150$ in China/Japan/any other similiar country arent the same as 150$ in USA, especially if you eat in MCDonalds everyday (and that's not healty if you as me). Lets say "mommy" and "daddy" both work as goldfarmers and each of them makes 200$ per month I dont see how can they have any problems feeding themselfs and lets say 2 kids.

 

 

 

(yeah yeah I know - I have horrible grammar)

Ok, yes, I'm not citing sources but, to be fair, neither are you.

 

 

 

A lot of what I'm saying comes from what I'd like to call personal experience. I live in Texas, a border state. I have friends, some of which have parents who are illegals. Others are second generation or third. But they're not starving. Their parents have minimal skills, but still manage to easily feed their families with hard work. Heck, my grandad was raised as a single child, back in the 20s due to a work related accident. I.E. he had nothing. He died a multi millionaire, including, of course, property and stocks.

 

 

 

My point? These are people I know or knew who had little or nothing, and some of which who are still lower class, who not only manage to feed themselves, but thrive and are steadily getting better. Does China have that?

 

 

 

And he's my personal experience:

 

 

 

2 years ago, my uncle was living in an apartment with my aunt and cousins. I know this because I've visited them back then. Now they own a house in Vegas, one in Shanghai, and another in Beijing. My uncle just spent 1 month vacationing in Vegas and my aunt and cousins are traveling the US for 3 weeks. They left our house for Washington DC yesterday morning.

 

 

 

There are stories of successes in China too, you know. Like that person who opened one of the first Chinese casinos. He made 1 million dollars every hour, every hour of the day, I think it was for 2 weeks.

 

 

 

Now you bring up how people in the West are making more money, even the very poor, than Chinese poor. First, I don't know what you are saying, since food is even cheaper in China and is easily affordable. Second, remember that the population is so much bigger. Setting a minimum wage would simply harm the economy too much. Is you doubled the population of the US, wouldn't there be a lot more poor people? Wouldn't a lot more of them go hungry?

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

Well to be honest in all companies the profit isn't given completly to the workers. The guys at the top make the majority of the money. For example when i worked in McDonald's part time when studying i got 3.85 pounds an hour i think and i was taking in at least 200 pounds an hour i reckon. Probably making the company profit of at least 100 pounds probably alot more per hour, yet i';m only getting ;paid 3.85, there exploiting me right? So i don't think that is a justified reason for saying the goldfarming is wrong. It happens everywhere, you just don't notice.

I wonder how many people wont eat tonight because of this.

 

 

 

146million dollar a year industry at the rate they pay their workers.

 

 

 

I think letting people eat is more important than stopping a few 12 year olds from buying in game money.

 

why don't they do what normal poor people do then and steal food, that imo is not nearly as bad as goldfarming. because with goldfarming you affect a lot more people around the world and the profit is also not given completely to the workers. they are both illegal and one is technically less bad so to speak, so i'm all for those workers stealing food to support themselves if they are that hungry.

 

 

 

Well to be honest in all companies the profit isn't given completly to the workers. The guys at the top make the majority of the money. For example when i worked in McDonald's part time when studying i got 3.85 pounds an hour i think and i was taking in at least 200 pounds an hour i reckon. Probably making the company profit of at least 100 pounds probably alot more per hour, yet i';m only getting ;paid 3.85, there exploiting me right? So i don't think that is a justified reason for saying the goldfarming is wrong. It happens everywhere, you just don't notice.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah basically no company gives the profit to the workers.

 

 

 

I get like 5.80 an hour and I work in a store that can turn like £2000 in a single till in 4 hours, and we are open for 12 hours with 6 tills

Don t think much will change similar operations will probably spring up in other countries and in China they are still allowed to trade virtual items for cash so it will probably just mean a change in the way they go about their business rather than an end to a whole black market economy.