Ravenkana Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Just because something becomes illegal, it doesn't prevent people from doing it. TBH, I doubt the Chinese government will really fund and put effort into something like this. Compared to the economic crisis that's bound to hit them with the bill Obama is trying to pass (it puts huuuuge fines/taxes on companies who go overseas for cheap labor, its an attempt to get more U.S. people back in work) I think china has bigger fish to fry.He's seriously doing that? I had no idea something that asinine was even in the works! Ha, say hello to rises in the cost of living and goodbye to competitive business, folks! Yay America will be back to normal......!If by normal, you mean giving the shaft to the world market which America is a part of. In a global economy, everyone wins because EVERYTHING CAN BE DONE CHEAPER. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Pessimist: If there was already a good amount of illegal workings involved, will this really change much? Optimist: So can we have free trade back? :D :lol: There are still a ton of nerds playing games 20/7. Same thing really. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 This is good to see, I imagine it will have more effect on WOW though. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Just because something becomes illegal, it doesn't prevent people from doing it. TBH, I doubt the Chinese government will really fund and put effort into something like this. Compared to the economic crisis that's bound to hit them with the bill Obama is trying to pass (it puts huuuuge fines/taxes on companies who go overseas for cheap labor, its an attempt to get more U.S. people back in work) I think china has bigger fish to fry. That statement might hold true in any other country but China, but uh...China's sanctions and Internet filters are insane enough to pull this off. Consider that the government actually has control of all of the ISPs, they could really block this. I've got a mixed feeling here...sure, gold sellers to legitimate gamers were a nuisance, but those people needed to put food on their tables. I don't know what to think, it's a shame for them to lose their jobs, really; I'd imagine at this point that most of WoW's RWT problems would evaporate, though. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Not only that, but there goes 9 million of WoW's subscribers. well may be not 9m but ... well a lot. I dont know how much is the monthly payment/tax but .. that would be a huge loss even for a company like Blizzard ... right :? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandorf61 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Doesn't the Chinese government highly regulate what people there can access on the internet? So now won't they just block these online games people are gold farming in? It's 1:30 AM for me so bare with me on my thinking... Oh yeah isn't Newgrounds blocked in China for some reason? If the Chinese government can easily block sites like that then I guess it would work. But then how would they block games like WOW which are downloaded and played on the computer rather than online like Runescape? Pyramid Plunder Guide Tip.it Forum Rules Adventurer's LogThanks to Cowboy14 for the awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 As far as gamers farming items for themselves goes, in China, gamers under the age of 18 will have difficulty playing online for the long hours required to farm any significant amounts. According to a CNBC news report, a new mandate by the Chinese government requires online games to have monitoring software for users younger than 18 with built-in warnings to stop and exercise after three continuous hours of play, and to stop playing after five hours. Gamers must wait a minimum of five hours before returning to gameplay, or the system will not reset. Minors who violate this new mandate may be required to attend an Internet Addiction Clinic if they don't reform. Also, to play online, gamers will be required "to register with a real name and ID card number so that the system knows if they are under 18 or not" source wikipedia their sources # http://kotaku.com/gaming/hardhitting-ne ... 288839.php # http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/04/chinese_governm/ soooo I guess they can control it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hvid Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Not only that, but there goes 9 million of WoW's subscribers. well may be not 9m but ... well a lot. I dont know how much is the monthly payment/tax but .. that would be a huge loss even for a company like Blizzard ... right :? ? 100% of them are goldfarmers? Can you estimate how many of them are like us just playing for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Optimist: So can we have free trade back? :D :lol: This was my first thought :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 And then you remember. The sweatshop workers are now replaced with robots. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demby123 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Optimist: So can we have free trade back? :D :lol: This was my first thought :thumbup: What suprised me was, this wasnt everybody elses. :? :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 All I really see this doing is just driving whoever is doing this deeper into the underground, and not much changing after the dust settles. The internet is really its own violent, nonphysical unregulated country (beyond the scant self-regulation that resembles early tribal organization), and I could do just as much by declaring war on cute kitten pictures. It's about as effective as the pope condemning violence. It would be fun to assume all the Catholic murderers are going to drop their weapons because the pope said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runeman231 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 As far as gamers farming items for themselves goes, in China, gamers under the age of 18 will have difficulty playing online for the long hours required to farm any significant amounts. According to a CNBC news report, a new mandate by the Chinese government requires online games to have monitoring software for users younger than 18 with built-in warnings to stop and exercise after three continuous hours of play, and to stop playing after five hours. Gamers must wait a minimum of five hours before returning to gameplay, or the system will not reset. Minors who violate this new mandate may be required to attend an Internet Addiction Clinic if they don't reform. Also, to play online, gamers will be required "to register with a real name and ID card number so that the system knows if they are under 18 or not" source wikipedia their sources # http://kotaku.com/gaming/hardhitting-ne ... 288839.php # http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/04/chinese_governm/ soooo I guess they can control it .. That in itself solves the whole problem, I'd say. Wouldn't sweat shops more than likely employ younger people because they could be more easily convinced. Now if they would enforce it then this could affect RuneScape if you really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 But couldn't they move there base of operations to some 3rd world countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamtaro Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 This will put millions of families out of jobs! Not only that, but there goes 9 million of WoW's subscribers. This is true. Player since 2004. All skills 1M+ XP."If it were possible to cure evils by lamentation..., then gold would be a less valuable thing than weeping." - Sophocles"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycai Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Doesn't the Chinese government highly regulate what people there can access on the internet? So now won't they just block these online games people are gold farming in? It's 1:30 AM for me so bare with me on my thinking... Actually, there is a lot of censorship in China. My parents told me when they were little they couldn't read the book Romance of the Three Kingdoms. I'm also aware that Brokeback Mountain is banned. I wouldn't be too surprised if gold-buying/selling websites were legitimate. 95/99 Summoning95/99 Slayer [hide=This is what you look like when you play RS too long][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppet Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Its not like Goldfarmers were making money they use stolen credit cards on the accounts to get the money off the credit cards in a way. Still when you do something Illegal something bad happens to the children. :l Edit:Also its not like they don't kill the children already. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 But couldn't they move there base of operations to some 3rd world countries? Gold farming is happening in several countries. China is just mentioned first because it has the most. Though I don't think this will cause any change. As I said before, China isn't the only nation to have gold farmers. Gold will still sell. Though, why would China have any reason to bad gold farming? "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Did anyone read the full article? About halfway through, it states that the ban only applies to virtual currency, so virtual gear may still be okay. :wall: Great. Gold farmers can't sell you 5m but they can sell you 3-4 Abyssal whips... what a complete and undeniable revolutionary success! :roll: Who the factor wrote this law? Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suiku Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Did anyone read the full article? About halfway through, it states that the ban only applies to virtual currency, so virtual gear may still be okay. :wall: Great. Gold farmers can't sell you 5m but they can sell you 3-4 Abyssal whips... what a complete and undeniable revolutionary success! :roll: Who the factor wrote this law? Lol... I think items counts as currency too Veteran Cape Owner (10 year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Did anyone read the full article? About halfway through, it states that the ban only applies to virtual currency, so virtual gear may still be okay. :wall: Great. Gold farmers can't sell you 5m but they can sell you 3-4 Abyssal whips... what a complete and undeniable revolutionary success! :roll: Who the factor wrote this law? Lol... I think items counts as currency too Read the article. It says specifically, halfway through the article, that the ban only applies to virtual currency, and not necessarily virtual gear. The extent to which the Chinese government will apply its virtual currency rule to online role playing games remains unclear. A report in the English-language China Daily says that in-game gear is not considered virtual currency, so selling virtual items may be allowed to continue. Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsar Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Those poor poor chinese... :( Anyway, this doesn't change anything. Most of the goldfarming companies have been working secretly and their employees have vowed not to betray their "masters". But now there is an actual legal act that can be executed against those caught. A few hundred might have to serve a sentence and/or get a fat fine. The rest go about their daily "business" as usual, like nothing happened. The chinese government have other more pressing concerns to worry about. I don't think they have the funds to have the police or national guard search every building, abandoned or not, in the country for these illegal establishments. So it makes this yet another law only effective on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Felix Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 timmy's granny is probably going to sue china [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppet Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 timmy's granny is probably going to sue china Fluffy is sueing Gold farmers for not farming "real" gold. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Like it's actually going to DO anything... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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