ikillreid Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey... so I'm sure many of you know the PvP 26ker trick very well... and was hoping you could shed some light on my situation. So I'm doing the whole EP thing... mining/fishing until I get 97-100% EP... then I get a friend to hold 26003 gp, and attack me, while I'm risking 144232 gp. I've done this trick from 100-0 EP 3 times and the sum of my drops have been 500k, 350k, and like... 100k. Also... when I die for him, his EP goes down around 25%, and when I get my first kill on him, my EP goes down around 72%.. (i.e. from 100 to 28). For instance.... this last kill I got on him, with 100 E.P. after hours of mining was: glory amulet, rune hatchet, 32 addy arrows, and a ranged potion. Whereas, each time he kills me, he gets like 1-3m totalling in items. I thought maybe I was getting unlucky... like hey... you look at the items, and that seems just like bad luck... but what indicates to me that it's something more is the fact that my EP goes down way faster than his. This is 3 rounds of 100-0 EP in a row now. My friend is level 133, whereas I am level 101. I just got members again after many years... so my construction is 15, summoning is 4, and hunter is 3. I'm only telling you this because I just brainstorming ANY possible reason for the discrepency in loot. Perhaps it's his combat level? Or one of my poor skills? Does ANYONE know what I am doing wrong.. or what I can do to get both better drops, and to stop my EP from draining in like one kill? Thank you!! (Account name: Darin1.. if you need to look it up for w/e reason.. I dunno). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Combat level is a large factor. As for what you're doing wrong, you're 26king. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLootChests Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 are you using a ring of wealth while killing him? Effigies: 5 draconic visage: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nope.. ring of wealth is needed? =o I'll try that! What's wrong with 26king, Philip? When I gain EP, I risk 75k+ if that's what you thought. EDIT: So is lower combat level ideal? or around the same? What's the cutoff around for reasonable combat? Is combat also the reason for the fast-draining EP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Before random answers, I'll tell you now that combat levels, your loot, and other things you're going to say don't affect your loot. My brother suffers from the same thing. 3 kills for 0 ep, and I get around 6. No matter who he does it with, no matter what loot he gets, he always loses 50 ep and then 30 ep the next kill. It's always been like this since he started... [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 wow... so I'm just stuck like this forever? Because my account was the lucky winner of PvP screwage? perhaps it's total skill level? Or something to do with skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nope. My other brother has like 1k total and he gets similar loot as me (2029) while my brother I was talking about has ~1500-1800 total lv (forgot) [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 So frustrating... I just don't get it. I just finished that 3rd EP off finally w/ the same level 133 friend... Took 3 more times... at 28... 6.. and then 1% Got around 150k of stuff, maybe... bringing total of 3rd round up to 300k or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbydog95 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well even though 26king isnt accepted, i cant stop you so i may as well get ya some loot try this - 1. Get 100% E.P. 2. Make sure you parnter is wearing armour (rune is good as it acts as the 26k + armour) 3. Have them use a familiar. 4. MAKE SURE YOUR IN A HOTZONE!!!! This is what i did when i tried 26king, and got Zarros stat. on 100% ep :) PSN: Skaterguy1224 Tactical Nukes - 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well even though 26king isnt accepted, i cant stop you so i may as well get ya some loot try this - 1. Get 100% E.P. 2. Make sure you parnter is wearing armour (rune is good as it acts as the 26k + armour) 3. Have them use a familiar. 4. MAKE SURE YOUR IN A HOTZONE!!!! This is what i did when i tried 26king, and got Zarros stat. on 100% ep :) You don't get it. All of that doesn't make a difference for some reason only to certain people. And on those people, nothing seems to stop their ep from going down 2x as fast as everybody else. Their loot also tends to be a bit lower, although they can get good loot. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The first numbers you threw out were staggering. I never heard of anyone lose so much ep in one kill. However... Took 3 more times... at 28... 6.. and then 1% That's actually more normal. If you 26k regularly, you're going to hit points where you only get 600-800k down from 100%. Even if you skill/pk, that's typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 You ever been muted? I reckon jagex are blocking people with alot of black marks from getting alot of money from PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 26king is sounding more and more interesting, even if some people are getting "garbage" drops (I'd personally be happy with just a few hundred thousand). Where would be a good and secluded spot to do this and how does one go about raising EP? Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0odspriteV2 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Oh poor you, you're only getting 200k for nothing ): boohoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Oh poor you, you're only getting 200k for nothing ): boohoo Actually, it's like 2-3 hours of work, and constantly dodging pkers and typically dying a few times when I get ancient maged in 36 wildy w/ no way of defending myself. Also, I never created this thread for your sarcastic sympathy, so you can take it somewhere else =). I do, however, welcome any and all ideas pertaining to the source of my problem. Thanks for the ideas so far guys! And in answer to 3hitmageu, I think I was muted once like 5 years ago. I was set-up by someone who didn't like me... provoked me with a mod friend nearby... and I only insulted him in finnish too.. gimme a break. I guess the mod translated it.. -.- Seems like an awfully long time to keep me on a black list though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffy1 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Actually, it's like 2-3 hours of work, and constantly dodging pkers and typically dying a few times when I get ancient maged in 36 wildy w/ no way of defending myself. Also, I never created this thread for your sarcastic sympathy, so you can take it somewhere else =). I do, however, welcome any and all ideas pertaining to the source of my problem. Thanks for the ideas so far guys! And in answer to 3hitmageu, I think I was muted once like 5 years ago. I was set-up by someone who didn't like me... provoked me with a mod friend nearby... and I only insulted him in finnish too.. gimme a break. I guess the mod translated it.. -.- Seems like an awfully long time to keep me on a black list though. Offences form such a long time ago don't actually count. As far as Jagex is concerned, I don't think they discriminate between offenders and regular players as that would be a lot of trouble for nothing to gain.. Oh poor you, you're only getting 200k for nothing ): boohoo Lol, now there's some truth. You could always go skilling.... and try your luck in pvp another time. I guess the luck is random. Tip.It Website Crew Leader[hide=Quotes]I love it how Jafje comes outa nowhere and answers my questionsHehe now we know what real life does...drugs, drugs, more drugs. Thank god we are addicted to something that won't kill us. [/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The first numbers you threw out were staggering. I never heard of anyone lose so much ep in one kill. However... Took 3 more times... at 28... 6.. and then 1% That's actually more normal. If you 26k regularly, you're going to hit points where you only get 600-800k down from 100%. Even if you skill/pk, that's typical. Actually, I lose similar amounts when I pk. It's quite annoying. I just stick to bounty targets now rather than normal PvP worlds since I can just kill at 0% ep for good loot. Is the OP by chance 107+2 combat with a decent skilling level? :lol: EDIT: Oh, and I have 0 black marks as well. *looks at next post* PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Oh poor you, you're only getting 200k for nothing ): boohoo Lol. I didn't know 2.5k chaos and 2 hours was nothing. Ok... You ever been muted? I reckon jagex are blocking people with alot of black marks from getting alot of money from PVP. I don't think so, my brother has never been muted and he suffers the same thing. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyu13 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Pvp isn't failing, and ep is overrated. I usually get 800kish on 90-100 ep. Today with my friend, I 26ked cosntantly for 2 hours and 0 ep. I got a zaros and 2 serene statuettes. I earned 13m and a pair of mage brawlers on 0 ep. Ep is fail imo, and was instituted by jagex to deter people from doing what i didand making 6.5m an hour, or in my friend's case, 4m an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 Lol... the thread title was meant to be a specific reference to myself... and by pvp, I actually meant 26king. Maybe I'll try doing it with 0EP sometime. And I'm actually 101+0 combat lol... level 4 summoning atm.. just joined rs again 16 days ago after quite a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyu13 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I have todo more testing with it to see if it is that stable, but seems good sofar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 So how does one actually go about raising EP efficiently? Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillreid Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 0 EP didn't work at all. Not for me at least... I got nothing but like addy skirt, and half eaten cakes + bad pots with 1 dose. I did it like 5x and best drop was a 30k thing. My friend meanwhile, got like 50k first drop, and then another 150k one and some other better drops than mine the other 3x or so. So the 0 EP idea is a scratch for me. I still haven't tried someone with a lower level though... perhaps the first poster is correct about the combat level being a factor? So frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Its combat level. High levels get awesum drops, low levels get nothing. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Its combat level. High levels get awesum drops, low levels get nothing. Lol somebody doesn't read anything but the frst post. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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