The Case for Slayer

[Owned_Nex]

1.) You train several skills at once, with decent to good exp/h rates.

 

2.) You will profit, as combat skills are one of the few that require very little to start (equipment).

 

3.) Charms. Screw bursting Lobs. Slayer ftw.

 

 

 

 

 

Fundamental errors.

 

 

 

1. It is faster to train one skill at a time if the EXP is roughly equal. Would you rather train on controlled or Attack, Str, then Def?

 

2. Just no. Sorry.

 

3. Depends on monster.

 

 

 

 

 

What is efficient is the question. Having 99-99 is going to make melee training very simple. Also, slayer isin't a "combat" skill, and you get HP from othe sources, notably range.

 

 

 

Money. If you wanted that don't slay. Any gathering skill or RC gets more money.

 

 

 

Charms. Depends on monster, but it is more efficient to burst/wfiends then rely on slayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end, it is all preference. I liked slayer for a bit, but there is very little variety if you get it up. In the end, its just a circle. It might be fun the first time. Or the second, but by the 100th repetitive task, I don't think you'll love it as much.

 

 

 

 

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

[Bauke]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

[Troacctid]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

Since it is purely subjective, it is an argument that has no relevance to the discussion.

[Bauke]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

Since it is purely subjective, it is an argument that has no relevance to the discussion.

 

It is purely subjective whether you want to do slayer or not. I don't see why this is an discussion in the first place.

[Troacctid]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

Since it is purely subjective, it is an argument that has no relevance to the discussion.

 

It is purely subjective whether you want to do slayer or not. I don't see why this is an discussion in the first place.

 

Because the OP has claimed that slayer is one of the best skills in the game and put forth some very specific arguments besides "Slayer is my favorite skill and it's fun." I happen to disagree, on the basis that training slayer is a suboptimal method for training combat, earning money, and/or collecting charms.

[un4given]

The people who say slayer sucks are usually the ones who grind every single thing in the game, so usually their opinion isnt that important since they only play to win

 

And usually they lose.

 

usually lose lol? last time i checked leveling slayer is useless in boss hunting or pking. and if youve somehow forgotten since youre semi retired, much of rs is based on grinding.

 

 

 

your post is full of fail.

[Owned_Nex]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

 

 

Slayer is bad I win.

 

 

 

Sound like a rediculous arguement right?

[Bauke]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

Since it is purely subjective, it is an argument that has no relevance to the discussion.

 

It is purely subjective whether you want to do slayer or not. I don't see why this is an discussion in the first place.

 

Because the OP has claimed that slayer is one of the best skills in the game and put forth some very specific arguments besides "Slayer is my favorite skill and it's fun." I happen to disagree, on the basis that training slayer is a suboptimal method for training combat, earning money, and/or collecting charms.

 

One plays this game for fun (lets assume that). Training a skill is based on whether one likes the skill or not (or simply wishes to complete all skills). Xp/h and gp/h might be important factors for some people, but in the end, all that matters is whether you like to do the skill or not.

 

 

 

I mean, sure, you can debate whether slayer is a good money maker or a good way to gain xp, but the topic starter wants to prove that slayer doesn't suck. And whether something sucks is purely subjective. Therefore all arguments are useless. It's simply based on preference. And preferences are different among people. Someone can state that slayer is bad xp/h and gp/h, and I'll simply say I don't give a crap, because I like the skill.

 

 

 

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

 

 

Slayer is bad I win.

 

 

 

Sound like a rediculous arguement right?

 

Yeah. But that's because you fail to comprehend my post.

[Troacctid]

[hide=troacctid wrote]

 

Also, "i enjoy" is not an arguement.

 

Since this is a game, it is the only argument that matters.

 

Since it is purely subjective, it is an argument that has no relevance to the discussion.

 

It is purely subjective whether you want to do slayer or not. I don't see why this is an discussion in the first place.

 

Because the OP has claimed that slayer is one of the best skills in the game and put forth some very specific arguments besides "Slayer is my favorite skill and it's fun." I happen to disagree, on the basis that training slayer is a suboptimal method for training combat, earning money, and/or collecting charms.[/hide]

 

One plays this game for fun (lets assume that). Training a skill is based on whether one likes the skill or not (or simply wishes to complete all skills). Xp/h and gp/h might be important factors for some people, but in the end, all that matters is whether you like to do the skill or not.

 

 

 

I mean, sure, you can debate whether slayer is a good money maker or a good way to gain xp, but the topic starter wants to prove that slayer doesn't suck. And whether something sucks is purely subjective. Therefore all arguments are useless. It's simply based on preference. And preferences are different among people. Someone can state that slayer is bad xp/h and gp/h, and I'll simply say I don't give a crap, because I like the skill.

 

And you have every right to not give a crap. But here we can happily define sucking as being bad xp/h and gp/h, or otherwise inefficient for most players, for the purposes of the debate. And the OP has kindly provided a premise that is conducive to debate, as well as suggesting some criteria. So there is still plenty of room for discussion. Obviously any skill should be trained for enjoyment; nobody is likely to dispute that. But this topic is for discussion of whether slayer is the "best" skill and whether it is the "best" way to train combat.

[Bauke]

Fair enough. Though the topic starter seems to be wanting to claim that slayer is fun because of certain arguments. I'm saying that it's not possible to define "fun" like that. But if your intention is to discuss the optimal way to train combat, then I agree with you.

[Owned_Nex]

If all your going to say is 'I think slayer is fun', then stop wasting your time.

 

 

 

A discussion is supported by facts. Yeah, you can go ahead and rip the question, but dont waste our time.

 

 

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares if you like slayer. Like troacctid said, if you don't give a crap, don't bother posting.

 

 

 

In the end, it's a proven fact that slayer isin't the best exp, money, or source of charms,

[D Jay99]

In the end, it's a proven fact that slayer isin't the best exp, money, or source of charms,

 

It isn't really a proven fact, because no one agrees with the data the opposing party provides. It does seem that slayer isn't the fastest method to gain exp/money/charms, but it hasn't been conclusively proven yet. And unfortunately, even when it eventually gets proven, slayer lovers will always keep saying it is better, even though it's been proven it isn't. :P

[Owned_Nex]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed]es who don't understand efficiency.

[Bauke]

If all your going to say is 'I think slayer is fun', then stop wasting your time.

 

 

 

A discussion is supported by facts. Yeah, you can go ahead and rip the question, but dont waste our time.

 

 

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares if you like slayer. Like troacctid said, if you don't give a crap, don't bother posting.

 

 

 

In the end, it's a proven fact that slayer isin't the best exp, money, or source of charms,

 

And your point is, what?

[RayOxide]

If all your going to say is 'I think slayer is fun', then stop wasting your time.

 

 

 

A discussion is supported by facts. Yeah, you can go ahead and rip the question, but dont waste our time.

 

 

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares if you like slayer. Like troacctid said, if you don't give a crap, don't bother posting.

 

 

 

In the end, it's a proven fact that slayer isin't the best exp, money, or source of charms,

 

And your point is, what?

 

 

 

Either that slayer is useless, which as a skill it kinda is, or that Slayer is.. useless? :roll:

 

 

 

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

 

 

Keepign slayer at 1 is essentially the same thing as not training summoning. It has down sides but in the long run it helps alot, and both are very optional.

[perfetc]

If all your going to say is 'I think slayer is fun', then stop wasting your time.

 

 

 

A discussion is supported by facts. Yeah, you can go ahead and rip the question, but dont waste our time.

 

 

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares if you like slayer. Like troacctid said, if you don't give a crap, don't bother posting.

 

 

 

In the end, it's a proven fact that slayer isin't the best exp, money, or source of charms,

 

And your point is, what?

 

 

 

Either that slayer is useless, which as a skill it kinda is, or that Slayer is.. useless? :roll:

 

 

 

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

 

 

Keepign slayer at 1 is essentially the same thing as not training summoning. It has down sides but in the long run it helps alot, and both are very optional.

 

 

 

Summoning helps with all skill were as slayer only lets you kill more monsters which may or may not drop unique weapons such as the whip.

 

 

 

So not training slayer is a small loss comapred to not training summoning and you can train each without the other.

 

 

 

For the quickest way to max level though training them all at the same time is the quickest.

[Troacctid]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

[EpicWin]

Slayer is the most efficient and profitable way to get 99 melees, as well 99 ranged ( with ranging some of the tasks ) and 99 Summoning. You'll get enough profit, even when pietying tasks and it's much more experience per day than just camping. I got 25M + 4M from points with 3M Slayer experience. 25M in runes, arrows, armor etc ( visage, whips, boots, bows go for buying prayer potions, cannonballs etc ). That was with pietying, cannoning some tasks and I still end up with epic profit. Good luck having 72 Slayer and complaining about the cost of bursting for Summoning ;).

[perfetc]

If you don't like slayer than you can get better experiance just killing the same monster the same way you would kill that monster if you were doing slayer, if you know what I mean.

 

 

 

For example, just cos your not killing kalphites as part of your slayer doesn't mean you can't cannon them for exp and charms etc, it just means you don't have to stop after killing X amount to go to a slayer master and be told to cannon something else.

 

 

 

Of course if you want a maxed out account you need to train slayer before being 138 otherwise it's highly inefficient.

[Owned_Nex]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

 

 

 

If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed.

 

 

 

Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a

 

Canifis teleport.

 

 

 

Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts.

 

 

 

Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify

 

the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down.

 

 

 

Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

[Troacctid]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

 

 

 

If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed.

 

 

 

Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a

 

Canifis teleport.

 

 

 

Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts.

 

 

 

Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify

 

the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down.

 

 

 

Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

 

...I can disagree from personal experience. Slayer rings are an incredibly useful piece of jewellery. Broad bolts are the most efficient bolts to train ranged with. Managing Miscellania is one of the most profitable activities in the game. Ava's Accumulator is a godsend for ranging. Proselyte is the best prayer armour in the game. All valid reasons to train. Can't leave that stuff out.

[perfetc]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

 

 

 

If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed.

 

 

 

Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a

 

Canifis teleport.

 

 

 

Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts.

 

 

 

Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify

 

the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down.

 

 

 

Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

 

...I can disagree from personal experience. Slayer rings are an incredibly useful piece of jewellery. Broad bolts are the most efficient bolts to train ranged with. Managing Miscellania is one of the most profitable activities in the game. Ava's Accumulator is a godsend for ranging. Proselyte is the best prayer armour in the game. All valid reasons to train. Can't leave that stuff out.

 

 

 

Which all require very low slayer level to get, I think the highest is 55.

 

 

 

Edit: I know it comes across like I hate slayer but I actually quite like it.

[Skeptical]

Nice to see a thread in defense of Slayer: I personally enjoy it and find it rewarding, although the XP seems unnaturally slow.

[Troacctid]

[hide=troacctid wrote]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

 

 

 

If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed.

 

 

 

Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a

 

Canifis teleport.

 

 

 

Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts.

 

 

 

Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify

 

the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down.

 

 

 

Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

 

...I can disagree from personal experience. Slayer rings are an incredibly useful piece of jewellery. Broad bolts are the most efficient bolts to train ranged with. Managing Miscellania is one of the most profitable activities in the game. Ava's Accumulator is a godsend for ranging. Proselyte is the best prayer armour in the game. All valid reasons to train. Can't leave that stuff out.[/hide]

 

 

 

Which all require very low slayer level to get, I think the highest is 55.

 

 

 

Edit: I know it comes across like I hate slayer but I actually quite like it.

 

The point is that they're a very valid reason to train slayer, and you shouldn't go about as though they don't exist. I agree that there is no reason to train slayer after a certain level; however, until that point, I believe it's a well-designed skill that is worth training.

[perfetc]

[hide=troacctid wrote]

It is proven by many trusted sources. And its a consensus among anyone who have researched it.

 

 

 

 

 

Slayers slay because they enjoy it, or they are [developmentally delayed] who don't understand efficiency.

 

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements...

 

 

 

You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek:

 

 

 

If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed.

 

 

 

Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a

 

Canifis teleport.

 

 

 

Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts.

 

 

 

Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify

 

the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down.

 

 

 

Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

 

...I can disagree from personal experience. Slayer rings are an incredibly useful piece of jewellery. Broad bolts are the most efficient bolts to train ranged with. Managing Miscellania is one of the most profitable activities in the game. Ava's Accumulator is a godsend for ranging. Proselyte is the best prayer armour in the game. All valid reasons to train. Can't leave that stuff out.[/hide]

 

 

 

Which all require very low slayer level to get, I think the highest is 55.

 

 

 

Edit: I know it comes across like I hate slayer but I actually quite like it.

 

The point is that they're a very valid reason to train slayer, and you shouldn't go about as though they don't exist. I agree that there is no reason to train slayer after a certain level; however, until that point, I believe it's a well-designed skill that is worth training.

 

 

 

Well-designed?