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[Latinoking]

How is the state of oil in this year? (2051-2052?)

[Nero]

How is the state of oil in this year? (2051-2052?)

 

Useless, by now green energy is cheaper and more efficient :thumbup:

 

Though it's still a fairly useful thing for offensive ops, when the magical grass batteries fail :P

[Latinoking]

How is the state of oil in this year? (2051-2052?)

 

Useless, by now green energy is cheaper and more efficient :thumbup:

 

All the spaceships, boats, military teleportation, etc. are green? I strongly DOUBT that.

[Wisp]

Oil has been saved up for decades by Brazil. We probably have more than 50% of the remaining oil in the world, and we're just stockpiling it for god knows what. There still is probably a good amount left on the market though, and it's still useful for high powered cars, tanks, military stuff, planes, and so on.

 

Our ships are nuclear powered.

[ThurinEthir]

 

Nah, someone said that any 4 NWO countries could take me on toe to toe, so I just included the 4 that had the weakest militaries. It wasn't meant as a "I could invade Taiwan and win", it was meant as "I wouldn't be in any serious trouble in Taiwan attacked me".

 

 

Yea, I got that. Just wanted to clarify, since I don't have much land, and people tend to associate that with a small army. Although Taiwan's modern day army is already one of the largest in the world.

 

My military really wasn't trained too well for offensive measures anyway, it's more of a defensive force. And I agree that not any 4 NWO countries could take on a superpower, that's kind of like saying that any 20 UN countries could take on the US or Russia, which clearly isn't the case if you pick 20 countries with a tiny military, or even no military.

 

 

 

 

I did not take singapore so have at it also You do realise that err I'm the malaysian empire and at 10% of my total population i can send out 40 million troops (if i so desire)

 

I think I underestimated your size myself. :P

 

But what you can muster and what you actually have are different things. If I remember correctly, you were only maintaining a force of maybe 5-10 million (or was that someone else? my bad if it was). On the other hand, once I train all those Nepalese men, I'll have 15-20 million troops (mainly in reserve forces, if you were wondering if that would destroy my economy at all). Of course you have HAWs so that can make up for your small(er) army size.

 

And thanks for Singapore. Now that you're part of the NWO I hope that our intersecting borders won't be a cause of conflict.

 

As for me and oil, basically all of Taiwan is running on renewable resources, or something. We used to get a lot of oil from Indonesia (as a peace deal I had...way back when this was just starting), which was able to last as I was setting up the wind farms and solar panels and water turbines. As mentioned, there are some things you simply can't use renewable energy for, and what oil I'm able to harvest is being used for those things. And I'm hoping that the NWO has some sort of "oil bank", allowing any oil collected by a nation in the order to be used by any NWO country.

[Latinoking]

I want to know how spaceships are getting up in Mars without oil.

 

 

 

After 40 years of oils use increasing, I'm sure we'd be out by now. If not every advanced ship or anything like it would have to be green powered or it simply would be outdone by everything else.

 

There's only like like major oil supplier and that's me. There's no way, as I went green very early in this game. Besides...I've only sell to like one nation....Japan.

 

 

 

Oil has been saved up for decades by Brazil. We probably have more than 50% of the remaining oil in the world, and we're just stockpiling it for god knows what.

 

What? You most certainly do not have more than 50% of the remaining oil, I only have one big consumption nation and that's China. You're tried to save while you have a lot of countries who consume a lot.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onsumption

 

 

 

We're suppose to be realistic afterall, right?

[RpgGamer]

I would like to join the NWO also my RFG research has been completed as well as my HAW's are now being refitted with rail guns(whose research has been finished) and I'm construction a terravenger (should take 10 years) also Ross sorry i couldnt go I was on a family vacation :x Ohh yes just about forgot I am sending up 10 rfg units into geosynchronous orbit around malaysia.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would be awesome if we renamed the NWO Eastasia.

 

 

 

40b surplus has been carried over into the Japanese budget for 2050. [i think we're in 2050 now?]

 

 

 

 

 

You never put any money towards the TerraVenger program, though.

 

 

 

Nor I think does he have the money to do what he wants to anyway..

 

Aside from the fact that I'm funding the project as well, what does his monetary status have to do with anything?

 

Just because he doesn't have the funds to zerg-develop the thing, that doesn't mean that everyone somehow manages to get the plans to it. I'm pretty sure Lux was researching it for like 10 years.

 

 

 

Oh you are? I thought we'd agreed to play somewhat realistically to our national budget. - wait, I think you mean the program not Malaysia's one.. I'm confused now though, heh.

 

Also yes, I agree on the teching thingy.

 

 

 

What exactly is it? I think I missed Lux's opening post about it..

 

 

 

Wait. You were starting production on something that you didn't even know what it was?

 

I'm helping fund Luxembourg's TerraVenger program.

 

 

 

Okay first of all it's called a TerrAvenger.

 

Secondly, it's a massive space stationesque chunk of mass. Consider it like a chunk of earth being sent into space. It's roughly the size of a moderate city. I've been wary to post actual numbers because it's supposed to be like 5x what Brazil's colony ship was, while still being realistic. I used alot of the technology from Brazil's colony ship to be honest. I just made it friggin' huge. It also took ~15 years of just research (at the Haven, it would have been longer). It also took jillions of moneys, but was helped in funds by Malaysia, former Germania, and Brittania. And possibly Bulgaria, I forget. It's meant for very distant space exploration to explore the final frontier. Making another is near pointless, but feel free to compete with me and my awesome production abilities.

 

 

 

The shere size of this beast does not allow me to launch it as a whole, so it's being produced on Earth, and constructed in space by being sent via colony ship. This process in it's self will take decades. But it's gonna be a hell of a ship when it's done.

 

 

 

and THAT is the TerrAvenger.

[Nero]

*shrug* Russia sells me all the oil I need.

[Wisp]

I want to know how spaceships are getting up in Mars without oil.

 

 

 

After 40 years of oils use increasing, I'm sure we'd be out by now. If not every advanced ship or anything like it would have to be green powered or it simply would be outdone by everything else.

 

There's only like like major oil supplier and that's me. There's no way, as I went green very early in this game. Besides...I've only sell to like one nation....Japan.

 

 

 

Oil has been saved up for decades by Brazil. We probably have more than 50% of the remaining oil in the world, and we're just stockpiling it for god knows what.

 

What? You most certainly do not have more than 50% of the remaining oil, I only have one big consumption nation and that's China. You're tried to save while you have a lot of countries who consume a lot.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onsumption

 

 

 

We're suppose to be realistic afterall, right?

 

We just bought up as much of the oil we could afford earlier on in the game, and put it into our reserves. There's some post about it, but since no one ever said anything about stopping production of oil, or in general making everything run on solar whatevers, most of the oil would be gone at this point, with the massive amount of expansionism and production this game has seen. 50% could be be way off, but since I was the only one to post,and make that initiative that I've seen, I just threw that number out.

[Nero]

Doom, don't you think hoarding all that oil and diamonds would've taken a huge chunk out of your annual GDP? That would probably be like 30% of your funds that would've been cut for the past 50 years or so.

[Latinoking]

Still waiting on that spaceship question.

 

 

 

We just bought up as much of the oil we could afford earlier on in the game, and put it into our reserves. There's some post about it, but since no one ever said anything about stopping production of oil, or in general making everything run on solar whatevers, most of the oil would be gone at this point, with the massive amount of expansionism and production this game has seen. 50% could be be way off, but since I was the only one to post,and make that initiative that I've seen, I just threw that number out.

 

What? Just because I might have produce it during the years doesn't mean I just suddenly lose it. I went green very early and I only sell to Japan. How is it almost gone?

 

 

 

So you have a lot of oil supposedly reserved while making spaceships and having a lot of countries who consume oil? Sorry not a convincing story.

 

 

 

You don't even have that much reserved, Doom.

 

 

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... n_reserves

 

 

 

You just have Venezuela, Mexico, and Brazil at this point as main reservoir if they even have much. As America was destroyed and had to be rebuilt.

[Wisp]

Doom, don't you think hoarding all that oil and diamonds would've taken a huge chunk out of your annual GDP? That would probably be like 30% of your funds that would've been cut for the past 50 years or so.

 

iirc only 9 billion worth of diamonds are produced each year. And I wasn't even getting all of that.

 

The oil thing was done earlier on. Most of the costs of that have been negated by selling spaceships and various private deals.

 

I guess the 50% thing was an overstatement, but I was basing that off what the oil reserves would be in 50 years or so based on how much oil is left, and how much we have now, at the rate that we're going at in real life, since calculating game rates is difficult, if not impossible.

[RpgGamer]

Still waiting on that spaceship question.

 

 

 

As in mine?

 

I just posted last page -.-

 

 

 

And to answer those who helped fund it, you may place a small (by no means insignificant) amount of colonists on my ship. These people will have to pass a test though and will be ensured to maintain peace and order on the long voyage ahead.

 

 

 

I'm sending an ion cannon and a cloning factory up as well to ensure the survival of the colonists (it's still self sustaining, but I'm making it better). There will be a fixed population, so once a certain quota is reached, there will be no more breeding. All dead bodies aboard are to be sent into the great beyond to conserve space. Food and goods will be strictly rationed. And because it is my TerrAvenger, the people inside are under my jurisdiction (my population will be the majority regardless).

 

 

 

If there was already world peace, the rules wouldn't have to be so strict :shame:

[The Dark Lord]

Latino is talking to Doom about the spaceships, and he's wondering how Brazil has all that fuel with their vast space programme.

 

 

 

We thank New Luxembourg for allowing us to use their cloning facilities in order to create 2,000,000 human soldiers. They will be assimilated into the Britannian military immediately and will be given some of the best equipment we can offer. They may have a relatively short life-span (65 years), but they will stay in prime condition for the rest of their lives. They will be treated with the utmost respect.

[Latinoking]

The oil thing was done earlier on.

 

So you bought a lot of oil and reserved it early on? From who NOPEC? They had some oil, but by judging how you have handle your oil reservoir and the consumption of the Central and South Africa. This is not logical at all.

 

 

 

Most of the costs of that have been negated by selling spaceships and various private deals.

 

Sorry, I don't get how you can reserve a lot of oil while making a lot of spaceships while not having a good enough oil source to constantly reproduce the product. Are these spaceships perhaps fake then? You seriously can't tell me you have enough oil to reserve and for your space program.

 

 

 

I guess the 50% thing was an overstatement, but I was basing that off what the oil reserves would be in 50 years or so based on how much oil is left, and how much we have now, at the rate that we're going at in real life, since calculating game rates is difficult, if not impossible.

 

Why are we basing the oil here on how much oil is left in real life? What the heck does the real world affairs have to do with this game. When the Hegemony started this game he kicked "the real world leaders" and put us in charge. We decided how everything was going to run from that day forward.

 

 

 

Still waiting on that spaceship question.

 

As in mine?

 

I just posted last page -.-

 

No, Not that question. My question is how are people doing their everyday business without oil such as getting their spaceships to the moon/mars without oil. I can understand some countries (like 5 tbh.) But for everyone else...this is a different matter.

[Wisp]

Latino, if no one else posts anything about oil other than "I'm selling some oil to Japan" then what else am I supposed to base it on?

 

And you're basing almost all of what you're saying on real life affairs with oil too, even though you're saying it has nothing to do with the game.

[Latinoking]

Latino, if no one else posts anything about oil other than "I'm selling some oil to Japan" then what else am I supposed to base it on?

 

You can start with your spaceship program (a lot of space ships apparently) and the vast oil consumption of Central and South America.

 

 

 

And you're basing almost all of what you're saying on real life affairs with oil too, even though you're saying it has nothing to do with the game.

 

LOL? So you are going to say suddenly your people stop using oil...don't you think it's a little too late for that statement?

 

 

 

Since, we've all pretended that the people in our countries acted the same and went with their business, I don't see why you trying to pull away from that now.

 

 

 

I'm not the leader with the countries who consume a lot of oil nor do I all have the vast spaceship program. You are.

[Furah]

Seeing as nobody has asked me about F.A.S.T. and due to all this warfare talk I guess I might as well tell you people about it. It's essentially large railguns which are fully automated and use advanced technology to correctly target enemies, as will as use real time feeds to provide the upmost accuracy and reliable hit:miss ratios. They use large amounts of solar panels to power them, and can store electricity for as long as needed.

 

 

 

Mars colony update: Alpha (the land Australia owns on Mars) is manufacturing a specialised version of the droppods. As they aren't intended for combat they are lighter armoured and so cost less. They are used for landing people in places hard to get to. (Such as for search and rescues.)

 

 

 

To be honest, NWO probably has the majority of the world's population, considering that it's based primarily in Asia and Australasia.

 

Australasia no, Asia + NZ yes. Australia has already stated it's refusal to join.

 

 

 

 

Speaking of Haven, what the hell has happened there recently?

 

Someone just started a project there, and I think I have one going on there as well. It's still neutral ground. Won't be an NWO state though.

 

That would be me.

 

 

 

Australia has decided to research wireless power 'hotspots' on Haven. As usual, all countries with scientists in Haven will have access to the tech, and it will be an ongoing project. The aim for this project is to give people easier access to power in the area. Ways of turning off the charging for devices once they are at 100% charge will also be researched.

[Grim_]

Malaysia news: The HAW's are being fitted with railguns we are reverse engineering dooms ship (should take roughly 5 years to reverse engineer and 5 to make plans and create a ship that can hop stars)and I'm boosting my army to 20 million. Also earth to space missiles are being added into my TITAN Missile shield/system

[Nero]

Malaysia news: The HAW's are being fitted with railguns we are reverse engineering dooms ship (should take roughly 5 years to reverse engineer and 5 to make plans and create a ship that can hop stars)and I'm boosting my army to 20 million. Also earth to space missiles are being added into my TITAN Missile shield/system

 

I don't think Doom is going to take you stealing one of his ships and trying to reverse-engineer it too kindly.

 

 

 

Europa news:

 

Working on improvement to passive radar systems again.

 

Air force has completed its upgrade, stands at 1200 planes strong (700 of which are the fighter-interceptors)

 

AI research is progressing slowly

 

Project Cleanup has cleared the space debris from above European land, starting now on Russian air space.

 

Naval base in Tunisia still churning out ships per year

 

Bomb coming along fine, another 20 years or so.

 

MAAS/Scorpions still being built yearly. Should have around 200 MAASs and 100 Scorpions by now.

 

Missile shield now covers all Europian land.

 

blah blah economy progressing nicely.

 

 

 

I also have a lot of excess food from due to the spray I developed that increases farm yield by 300%. It's up for sale for anyone with over-population issues (eg. China/India).

[stonewall337]

Ross told me to jump in and ask for a piece of Africa. Anyone share so I can join?

[The Dark Lord]

 

To be honest, NWO probably has the majority of the world's population, considering that it's based primarily in Asia and Australasia.

 

Australasia no, Asia + NZ yes. Australia has already stated it's refusal to join.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Australasia is a region of Oceania: Australia, New Zealand, the island of New Guinea, and neighbouring islands in the Pacific Ocean. The term was coined by Charles de Brosses in Histoire des navigations aux terres australes (1756). He derived it from the Latin for "south of Asia" and differentiated the area from Polynesia (to the east) and the southeast Pacific (Magellanica). It is also distinct from Micronesia (to the northeast).

 

:thumbup:

 

 

 

 

 

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Stonewall, you can try asking Doom or Dusty about it. If nothing else, I'm sure the NWO can give you a position somehow.

[Nero]

Ross told me to jump in and ask for a piece of Africa. Anyone share so I can join?

 

Yea sure, just pick a country you want, if it's one of mine I'll give it to you (the exception being Tunisia and Morroco).

 

Btw Ross is a sneaky little bugger if he asked you to specifically ask for a piece of Africa hehe.

 

If you want, though, you could have Iceland as well.

 

 

 

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[Wisp]

Ross told me to jump in and ask for a piece of Africa. Anyone share so I can join?

 

You can have Somalia if you want, I guess. It's in a lot better shape than in real life, poverty is less of an issue, but it still needs work.

 

Latino, I don't think this argument will really get anywhere, considering I had already said that the percentage was wrong, since it was based on real life projections and numbers, and you didn't really get my point with my last post. You were saying

 

What the heck does the real world affairs have to do with this game

, and I was pointing out how you were throwing Wikipedia links to 2009 or earlier information.

[Grim_]

Malaysia news: The HAW's are being fitted with railguns we are reverse engineering dooms ship (should take roughly 5 years to reverse engineer and 5 to make plans and create a ship that can hop stars)and I'm boosting my army to 20 million. Also earth to space missiles are being added into my TITAN Missile shield/system

 

I don't think Doom is going to take you stealing one of his ships and trying to reverse-engineer it too kindly.

 

 

 

 

I bought it from her also Stone if you come in you have at least one ally here :P