Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Then go further than 20. I think exojoule's might be a bit much, since one battery would be enough to power every single thing that humans do on the planet for almost a month. And since only you would be using it, that would last probably a year or so, longer than it would take to charge. I think maybe 100 petawatts is reasonable. That would last you probably a day or so, or 12 hours, of full power of everything in your country. Or one giant mass of energy for something that needs a lot. Ross, I think for now it's going to be private. You guys have the terravenger and all that, which could be an equivalent to my station, probably. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'm not actually working on the TerrAvenger. Hm, I wouldn't have thought the output would have been that low, since each one takes 2 years or so to charge, thats 2 years for about a week of powering my country. Unless I misunderstood and you meant one day irl time, in which case, that'd be absolutely perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The thing with the warp drive would be that it makes it so distance is much less of an issue. If there are 3 within 20 lightyears, other than earth, then there might be dozens more within a hundred light years, which would end up as less than that because of how the warp drive works. Plus if we can manage to make a warp drive, I'm sure someone can manage terracreation or terraforming. @Ross Maybe a compromise would be 600 petajoules. That's maybe 3 months, for you. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Thats fine. It equals out to about one full year of power for all four of my shards, which take 2.3 years to charge. That seems fair to me. About Terraformation, I thought I already worked on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Latino, Venezuela, Norway and America combined produce a good amount more than you, iirc, and far more than I would consume. So yes. Norway sells you their entire fuel? Yup, I highly doubt that. But I'll add it because you says so. Let's look at the number. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... production Me: Saudi Arabia - 11,000,000 (bbl a day) China - 3,730,000 United Arab Emirates - 2,948,000 Kuwait - 2,613,000 Iraq - 2,110,000 Qatar - 1,111,000 Oman - 740,000 Yemen - 402,000 Egypt - 688,100 Syria - 380,000 Israel - 100 vs You (or what you think is entirely yours) USA - 8,457,000 Norway - 2,565,000 Venezuela - 2,667,000 Yeah....Sorry. China and Saudi Arabia alone>>> Both numbers from the USA and Norway are probably less as you don't have Alaska and Aether also have part of USA. As for Norway, they don't just produce oil just for you. And as for nuclear powered craft, that's all with the technology they had in the 50's and 60's. A lot has changed since then. A lot has changed since 2009. But when I released my FX-Talon. "It was NOOO. Not realistic enough! I demand changes!!!" :roll: I know the oil discussion is over It's not over. Since we sold less oil than OPEC members, there is more oil left for us. That is the oil that was being used for the rockets to get into space, which are no longer necessary because of the space elevators. Also as part of the infrastructure being built with the extra money Norway started a state owned car company that didn't have any cars that rely on oil. I came to the conclusion that OPEC vanished when the new world started that the Hegemony built. Reason why? Because all allies, treaties, and etc. went all the door. As for your other thing, even with "space elevators" you are going to need space shuttles. You're going to travel space with a elevator? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Over the time I was away there were standing orders I gave here. 9 years later a decent amount has been accomplished. I had 4 mining ships and 1 colonizing ship, now I have 6 more mining ships for a total of 11 ships. 1 is still just being used for colonizing, the other 10 for mining. Eventually the private sector will probably take over moving people around the solar system but that colonization ship will still probably be helping. A second station around Venus has been completed. For a reminder these are 200km long 300m diameter cylinders that rotate to simulate gravity. Each one can self sustain 100,000 people. The first is called Bifrost, the second is called Asgard. 100,000 Norwegians were ready to go to the first but only 50,000 are being sent to each. Special allowances will be made if there is a reason for them to go there (marrying someone who is there ect...) but for the most part the other half will be born there. 50,000 more are being sent to Asgard since it is finished this year. A few more of these stations will be built around Venus, using the resources of 6 of the mining ships. Each one will take around 6 years to build. The other 4 mining ships will be going to Europa, one of Jupiter's moons. A small station will be constructed there first (consisting of 24 of my modules I used earlier in the game, self sustain about 25 people). One of my construction space stations will also be moved there. The cylinder stations around Venus are going to be built around Europa also, it has many of the volatile resources needed to fill the stations and a few moons around have the rest. Since only 4 mining ships are working on this, it will take around 9 years to build one station. While there, efficient means of harvesting h3 from Jupiter will be researched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The thing with the warp drive would be that it makes it so distance is much less of an issue. If there are 3 within 20 lightyears, other than earth, then there might be dozens more within a hundred light years, which would end up as less than that because of how the warp drive works. Plus if we can manage to make a warp drive, I'm sure someone can manage terracreation or terraforming. @Ross Maybe a compromise would be 600 petajoules. That's maybe 3 months, for you. A warp drive would also take amounts of energy so outrageous that it wouldn't even be worth making. Less energy than a wormhole, and it doesn't break physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I came to the conclusion that OPEC vanished when the new world started that the Hegemony built. Reason why? Because all allies, treaties, and etc. went all the door. As for your other thing, even with "space elevators" you are going to need space shuttles. You're going to travel space with a elevator? I don't know when you started playing, but OPEC was alive and well at the beginning of the game. Most of my first posts were about the Nopec cartel to beat the OPEC cartel. Not sure who controlled Saudia Arabia at that point but they were talking about OPEC then. The ships that are being used to travel around the solar system do not use oil, they are smaller versions of the engine used by Brazil and I to get to Alpha Centauri. She can fill you in better on how they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 quote Sorry, by you, I was only thinking of saudi arabia for some reason. Either way, it's not like I'm using 11 billion barrels a year. When I was talking about the talon, my main point was that you had developed it in 5 years, or so, and then it cost a ridiculously low amount. To get to space, shuttles are rarely used, atleast for us. That is where the main use of gas is. Even if we were using oil, getting to mars from the moon takes less than getting from earth to mars, iirc. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Inter planetary gateways are the most logic solution, as everything else would be unpractical, they might require exotic matter but anti-matter is one of those and aren't that underground tunnel thingy done replicating Big Bang yet? You should find some there. Stargates would be best to use as those have set pysical rules, dimentions, limits etc. But wormholes only need be used minutes at a time, warp needs days, weeks and months. You a StarGate fan idy? Asgard?. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 You a StarGate fan idy? Asgard?. Yes, but I was a fan of mythology before Stargate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Antimatter isn't exotic matter, to my knowledge. Exotic matter is basically stuff that breaks what we think are the laws for particles. EDIT: Atleast, I don't think it's exotic matter in the sense you're using. And it's not like one thing that's considered exotic matter=all exotic matter. Not by any means. That's like saying that water is matter, and steel is matter, thus water=steel. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Oh, heres a map, updated with Burma's new terrority. I used the most recent one I could find, if anything is wrong, PM me and I'll fix it. Not so fast. If you're doing it through diplomatic measures it'll take you 3 years or so. If it's through military, it'll take 1-2 years, and then another 3 or so to stabilize the country. Ok then, it's what Burma's future terrority will be. Kirby I own thailand and laos so Unless you want to have a war with me (would not end well for you) I would advise you not to start trying to conquer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 You a StarGate fan idy? Asgard?. Yes, but I was a fan of mythology before Stargate. Norse mythology then? Maybe if you "discover" a new habbitable planet you could call it Ygdrasil(world tree(not a translation but it's job)). Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Norse mythology then? Maybe if you "discover" a new habbitable planet you could call it Ygdrasil(world tree(not a translation but it's job)). Mostly Greek/Roman but I am Norway in this game so I went with Norse ;) . My colony on Mars is called Thorland, then I have Bifrost and Asgard stations. I'll eventually make it through all 8 worlds in Norse mythology and then work on other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Antimatter isn't exotic matter, to my knowledge. Exotic matter is basically stuff that breaks what we think are the laws for particles. Exotic matter is something working the opposite way of normal matter in the ways of physics so are therefore also including anti-matter. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Norse mythology then? Maybe if you "discover" a new habbitable planet you could call it Ygdrasil(world tree(not a translation but it's job)). Mostly Greek/Roman but I am Norway in this game so I went with Norse ;) . My colony on Mars is called Thorland, then I have Bifrost and Asgard stations. I'll eventually make it through all 8 worlds in Norse mythology and then work on other words. I already have Greek : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Antimatter isn't exotic matter, to my knowledge. Exotic matter is basically stuff that breaks what we think are the laws for particles. Exotic matter is something working the opposite way of normal matter in the ways of physics so are therefore also including anti-matter. No, exotic matter covers any material which violates one or more energy conditions or is not made of known baryonic particles. Such materials would possess qualities like negative mass or being repelled rather than attracted by gravity. There is a debate whether or not antimatter would have negative mass or not, though it is widely accepted that it does have positive mass. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 We already discussed that. Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain? I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online. yes. it had been discussed, but for the sake of the game and letting more people join, cant we say that the wormhole is magical or selfsustaining or something? >_> I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Antimatter isn't exotic matter, to my knowledge. Exotic matter is basically stuff that breaks what we think are the laws for particles. Exotic matter is something working the opposite way of normal matter in the ways of physics so are therefore also including anti-matter. No, exotic matter covers any material which violates one or more energy conditions or is not made of known baryonic particles. Such materials would possess qualities like negative mass or being repelled rather than attracted by gravity. There is a debate whether or not antimatter would have negative mass or not, though it is widely accepted that it does have positive mass. If you look further down the page you found that on you'll see it says anti-matter is an exotic matter. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 We already discussed that. Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain? I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online. yes. it had been discussed, but for the sake of the game and letting more people join, cant we say that the wormhole is magical or selfsustaining or something? >_> Surely we can do better than that :-# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 We already discussed that. Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain? I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online. yes. it had been discussed, but for the sake of the game and letting more people join, cant we say that the wormhole is magical or selfsustaining or something? >_> Surely we can do better than that :-# What about creating a gate-brige at some black holes and use StarGate's rules? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 We already discussed that. Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain? I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online. yes. it had been discussed, but for the sake of the game and letting more people join, cant we say that the wormhole is magical or selfsustaining or something? >_> Surely we can do better than that :-# dude im just trying to make the game a bit more interesting. do you honestly have a problem with that? by shooting down the gates idea, sure seems like it... in other news, russia's deepspace ship has got the first snapshots of the layout of the planet looks roughly like this: bit....simple. but yeah the planet is a bit smaller than earth. a bit. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The closest black hole is around 1000 light years away. I think one of us is misinterpreting that article, mather. Since once of the properties of exotic matter would be negative mass, and thus being repelled by gravity, that part was basically asking whether or not antimatter was exotic matter based on it's mass. Walka, being able to do whatever we wanted and ignoring physics would make it more interesting, but also really, really stupid. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The closest black hole is around 1000 light years away. I think one of us is misinterpreting that article, mather. Since once of the properties of exotic matter would be negative mass, and thus being repelled by gravity, that part was basically asking whether or not antimatter was exotic matter based on it's mass. Walka, being able to do whatever we wanted and ignoring physics would make it more interesting, but also really, really stupid. :wall: :wall: the only time we ignore the physics is to get between the planets so that more people can join in. how exactly is that stupid, really? anyway i gtg to school. wont be replying anymore for roughly.... 7 hours. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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