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[Grim_]

Our first true spaceship is complete, and is capable of holding 6,000 people. It was built on Dominus, and is now on it's way to set up a much larger Mars colony. It has very large food and oxygen stores an should be fine for quite a few years,

 

Speaking of mars colonies I have roughly 20,000 people down there :thumbsup:

[Wisp]

We already discussed that.

 

 

 

Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain?

 

 

 

I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online.

 

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate.

 

In theory. It's a theory.

 

Wormholes exist, stable however must be man-made. I calculated that, knowing that for a wormhole to exist there must be created a "barrier" of elektrons moving at the speed of light, at which point they will shimmer blue(just look at the pic at wikipedia), and some sort of gas or liquid to keep it stable at both ends, that would be created using lasers to ionize the air inside the portal.

 

That picture is just an artists impression.

 

The idea of the most accepted idea of wormholes is a combination of a white hole, which is hypothetical, and a black hole.

 

Wormholes are only a theory, as I said. The theories are possibly correct, but we don't know.

[The_Mather1]

We already discussed that.

 

 

 

Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain?

 

 

 

I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online.

 

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate.

 

In theory. It's a theory.

 

Wormholes exist, stable however must be man-made. I calculated that, knowing that for a wormhole to exist there must be created a "barrier" of elektrons moving at the speed of light, at which point they will shimmer blue(just look at the pic at wikipedia), and some sort of gas or liquid to keep it stable at both ends, that would be created using lasers to ionize the air inside the portal.

 

That picture is just an artists impression.

 

The idea of the most accepted idea of wormholes is a combination of a white hole, which is hypothetical, and a black hole.

 

Wormholes are only a theory, as I said. The theories are possibly correct, but we don't know.

 

It may be the most accepted idea but not the one with the most scientific facts to back it up.

 

 

 

A wormhole is just a tunnel through space-time where one is traveling at the speed of light after "folding" all of space. It is generated by electrons moving over the speed of light and is often collapsed at sections when generated by black holes, to be able to generate a stable, directed wormhole all you need is two devices that make an exotic matter which to move the electrons through and a connection between them which is used to decide which to connect to.

[Nero]

GOT DAMN IT PEOPLE STOP HIDING TROOPS IN MY CAPITOL CITY

[Seraphi]

GOT DAMN IT PEOPLE STOP HIDING TROOPS IN MY CAPITOL CITY

 

I secretly reveal that every Berlin citizen is a robot

[Grim_]

GOT DAMN IT PEOPLE STOP HIDING TROOPS IN MY CAPITOL CITY

 

I would like to propose that due to the gravity worm holes can only be used in space to get to space ie. you cant teleport 1,000,000 troops into someones capital city. AlsoALL OF YOUR STATUES CONCEAL WALKERS! :lol: (couldnt resist)

[Nero]

:(

[Seraphi]

Grim's continuation of that combo made me sad.

 

:(

 

 

 

Anybody else want to buy Dyson shard plans?

[Grim_]

Grim's continuation of that combo made me sad.

 

:(

 

 

 

Anybody else want to buy Dyson shard plans?

 

But it made me happy :twisted: I would like to buy the plans

[Seraphi]

Okay, thanks.

 

 

 

Thats an extra 70 Billion in spare change.

 

I'll put 5 billion of that into my computer research, another 30 billion goes into my spaceport.

[Nero]

What exactly are dyson shards?

[Grim_]

What exactly are dyson shards?

 

idk sounds cool though 8-)

[frakir_staer]

Like a Dyson sphere, except without the whole going completely around the sun thing.

[indy500fan]

Alright, I decided to start playing again (I have been keeping up reading). An update will come later, just want to get a few things out there.

 

 

 

First, I got Finland when hedgehog left. Would the NWO countries who own Sweden like to trade Finland for Sweden? I would prefer to have my two countries right next to each other. This trade would be retroactive, meaning a retcon of the last few "years" and we all assume that I got Sweden right when he left and the NWO got Finland right when he left. So all improvements the NWO did to Sweden were actually done to Finland, and all the improvements doom did on my behalf for Finland were actually done to Sweden.

 

 

 

[hide=prospective new map][/hide]

 

 

 

That took longer than I expected, more updates later.

[Seraphi]

A Dyson shard is basically a massive solar panel that orbits the sun and constantly faces directly towards it, allowing the maximum amount of energy/solar cell to be collected at all times.

 

 

 

There is a small ship that can carry the battery that it charges (Holds about 1 petajoule of power at max) to and from Earth every 3 years or so.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

I'm okay with trading for Finland.

 

We still need a majority vote though.

 

 

 

Second Edit:

 

I'm searching up FTL travel at the moment.

 

That Quantum tunnelling theory (Technically, its not a theory, two scientists claim to have already accomplished it - They claim to have violated relativity) is pretty damn interesting.

[Wisp]

We already discussed that.

 

 

 

Do you have any idea how much power a wormhole takes to maintain?

 

 

 

I think Doom found something to do with FTL travel, so we just have to wait till she comes online.

 

I do know how mouch energy a wormhole takes, it's 5,083,280,782,100,000,000,000,000,000 elektrons or 5,083,280 terrawatt per quarter for a 6m gate.

 

In theory. It's a theory.

 

Wormholes exist, stable however must be man-made. I calculated that, knowing that for a wormhole to exist there must be created a "barrier" of elektrons moving at the speed of light, at which point they will shimmer blue(just look at the pic at wikipedia), and some sort of gas or liquid to keep it stable at both ends, that would be created using lasers to ionize the air inside the portal.

 

That picture is just an artists impression.

 

The idea of the most accepted idea of wormholes is a combination of a white hole, which is hypothetical, and a black hole.

 

Wormholes are only a theory, as I said. The theories are possibly correct, but we don't know.

 

It may be the most accepted idea but not the one with the most scientific facts to back it up.

 

 

 

A wormhole is just a tunnel through space-time where one is traveling at the speed of light after "folding" all of space. It is generated by electrons moving over the speed of light and is often collapsed at sections when generated by black holes, to be able to generate a stable, directed wormhole all you need is two devices that make an exotic matter which to move the electrons through and a connection between them which is used to decide which to connect to.

 

Exotic matter is also just hypothetical as well, but who knows. Again, there is no proof of any wormholes, ever, that is at all accepted by the scientific community. Atleast not that I've seen, if you can find some reputable sources, I'm fine with it.

 

I'm not denying that wormholes exist, or that they don't break the laws of physics, but I'm just saying, there's no real proof.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a possible warp drive.

 

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/07/2 ... ngine.html

 

I'll find some more on that soon.

[Nero]

Alright, I'll but the plans for the Dyson shard. Construction has started on a pair of them.

[Wisp]

Ross, how long does your battery charge for?

 

1 petajoule is enough to power all of humanity as of 09 for a good minute or so, I think, just so people have some reference.

[a_bert]

Oh yeah, for the record, we're constructing 1 dyson shard as well.

[Latinoking]

Doom is the pioneer in space travel, I am sure she's figured out where to get, or already is getting, oil from space.

 

There's oil in space? Got proof?

 

 

 

Latino, I have the US, which because the infrastructure was destroyed will have a lot more oil left than not. Venezuela and Norway sell me oil as well. I never said I stopped using oil altogether. Our use has been greatly diminished by advances in solar and nuclear power. We also have some parts of Canada, another producer. So saying I have no one selling me oil is kind of stupid.

 

Ok so you have two sellers. And it's been enough to cover all your space shuttles, the amount of people consume your oil, and whatever project and update you've done??? Really?

 

 

 

Latino, I don't use oil anymore.

 

I have four giant solar panels orbiting the sun, which provide me with plenty of energy.

 

Anything that the energy from those can't be used in is nuclear powered.

 

A nuclear powered space ship? What?

 

 

 

I was hoping for oil to be out of use by 2040, but I guess not.

 

Nope, I still have plenty. 8-)

 

 

 

Nuclear Powered Space Shuttle were banned for a reason guys.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_Test_Ban_Treaty

 

 

 

You guys can read more about nuclear propulsion here:

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Or ... propulsion)

 

 

 

And it's potential problems:

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Or ... propulsion)#Potential_problems

 

 

 

A few key ones:

 

 

 

Another potential problem with the pusher plate is that of spalling - shards of metal - potentially flying off the top of the plate. The shockwave from the impacting plasma on the bottom of the plate passes through the plate and reaches the top surface. At that point spalling may occur, damaging the pusher plate. For that reason, alternative substances (e.g., plywood and fiberglass) were investigated for the surface layer of the pusher plate, and thought to be acceptable.

 

 

 

True engineering tests of the vehicle systems were said to be impossible because several thousand nuclear explosions could not be performed in any one place. However, experiments were designed to test pusher plates in nuclear fireballs. Long-term tests of pusher plates could occur in space. Several of these tests almost flew. The shock-absorber designs could be tested at full-scale on Earth using chemical explosives.

 

 

 

Realistic...Nope.

[Seraphi]

Ross, how long does your battery charge for?

 

1 petajoule is enough to power all of humanity as of 09 for a good minute or so, I think, just so people have some reference.

 

Better change that to 2-3 Exajoules then.

 

I had no reference before, so I was basically making numbers up.

 

The battery takes like 3 years to fully charge.

 

 

 

 

 

Rocco, I say we look into the warp speed engine article that Doom provided.

 

I finished reading it, and it does seem interesting, but the amount of energy needed is staggering, so how do we get around that?

 

 

 

 

 

My spacecraft are powered by electricity...

 

Mass driver tech allows for effective travel using electricity and abusing magnets.

[Wisp]

We're announcing a research facility now. Some new ship plans I've been talking about for the past 15ish years, along with the ones like 7 years ago were actually research for the facility. It will be free floating in space, a few lightyears away, far away from any major source of gravity, so it won't be pulled too far within our lifetimes. It will be for research that would be impossible on earth, atleast safely.

 

The rest of it is more secretive for now, as all the ships and materials have already been launched for several years, and I'm just saying this now so that I'm not announcing some big discovery sometime down the road with nothing to back it up.

 

 

 

Latino, Venezuela, Norway and America combined produce a good amount more than you, iirc, and far more than I would consume. So yes.

 

And as for nuclear powered craft, that's all with the technology they had in the 50's and 60's. A lot has changed since then.

 

Rocco, read the warp speed article. I think it would be a lot better if we did something that was a lot more possible, and isn't just basically a cheat for more space.

[Seraphi]

Doom, can other nations go to said research station?

 

I'd be interested in helping with whatever goes on there.

[indy500fan]

Waiting to hear from the NWO members who owned Sweden about the trade offer, I only knew of one and PM'ed him already.

 

 

 

I know the oil discussion is over, just wanted to point out that my main task at the beginning of the game was getting people into Nopec (not all caps since it isn't an acronym) in order to reduce oil consumption. The countries that joined would be getting more money at the beginning since demand outweighed supply. Slowly that would diminish until supply and demand met, at which point Nopec members would be making the most money. Then as supply outstripped demand because of all our increased prices, we would eventually make the same as non OPEC members and then after that, less. During all this time members were building infrastructure that would make up for the lost oil money. Since we sold less oil than OPEC members, there is more oil left for us. That is the oil that was being used for the rockets to get into space, which are no longer necessary because of the space elevators. Also as part of the infrastructure being built with the extra money Norway started a state owned car company that didn't have any cars that rely on oil.

[a_bert]

I'm happy for Sweden to be swapped for Finland.