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When I was made war judge...so you not having a fleet is fairly important.

 

In other news 50 million unofficial ships materialize.... Or in your speak:

Maybe more, idk, I just made that up weeee.

[Nero]

When I was made war judge...so you not having a fleet is fairly important.

 

In other news 50 million unofficial ships materialize.... Or in your speak:

Maybe more, idk, I just made that up weeee.

What? You don't think the size of my fleet is reasonable? Ha.

Fine, if you want to dance this stupid little argument dance, 100m Federation ships have turned up at Adrigas, all with full crews.

[archimage_a]

Actually I thought it was very reasonable, it was more that just randomly inventing fleets, as Retech did and as people have done in the past with armies, tends to screw up the game. I remember the arguments about raising something like half your population was soldiers, clearly clear rules need to be defined or else we can just make stuff up.

[Nero]

Actually I thought it was very reasonable, it was more that just randomly inventing fleets, as Retech did and as people have done in the past with armies, tends to screw up the game. I remember the arguments about raising something like half your population was soldiers, clearly clear rules need to be defined or else we can just make stuff up.

Ah yes, like million-point space stations and the like? I whole-heartedly agree. Actually, since I never confirmed that space station was there, it doesn't actually exist. Hm.

 

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Working on modifications to my bomb.

[archimage_a]

If you like, though you need to have everyone(except me) agree with you to overrule me; otherwise people who lose battles would just try to destroy my people because of grudges and such.

Also you aren't war judge and you didn't have Doom give you permission to keep offical track of the game.

[Nero]

If you like, though you need to have everyone(except me) agree with you to overrule me; otherwise people who lose battles would just try to destroy my people because of grudges and such.

Also you aren't war judge and you didn't have Doom give you permission to keep offical track of the game.

Everyone? Ha, like that'll ever happen.

 

I'm not war judge, correct. I'm not Doom, correct. I don't need permission to keep track of the game though, that's what everyone does. I know you'd much rather that we were a bunch of slobbering idiots that went along with everything you say and do, but no thanks. Some of the stuff you have done and are doing is completely [bleep]ed up.

[archimage_a]

Official track of the game.

If everyone keeps their own track then failures of communication will mean that 2 people might have completely different versions of the universe. Far better to have an official copy.

 

It is characteristic of all committee discussions and decisions that every member has a vivid recollection of them and that every member's recollection of them differs violently from every other member's recollection. Consequently, we accept the convention that the official decisions are those and only those which have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials, from which it emerges with an elegant inevitability that any decision which has been officially reached will have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials and any decision which is not recorded in the minutes is not been officially reached even if one or more members believe they can recollect it, so in any particular case, if the decision had been officially reached it would have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials. And if it isn't then it wasn't.

 

I know you'd much rather that we were a bunch of slobbering idiots that went along with everything you say and do, but no thanks.Some of the stuff you have done and are doing is completely [bleep]ed up.

Obviously it is. I am not an expert by any means. However if three or more people disagree with me, and no one agrees, then I will usually back down. For the most part I am unpleasantly surprised by the lack of response, like me saying I will build a million point space station and no one disagrees for two weeks and then they think that I might have invested some time in it so try to torch it.

[Nero]

Official track of the game.

If everyone keeps their own track then failures of communication will mean that 2 people might have completely different versions of the universe. Far better to have an official copy.

 

It is characteristic of all committee discussions and decisions that every member has a vivid recollection of them and that every member's recollection of them differs violently from every other member's recollection. Consequently, we accept the convention that the official decisions are those and only those which have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials, from which it emerges with an elegant inevitability that any decision which has been officially reached will have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials and any decision which is not recorded in the minutes is not been officially reached even if one or more members believe they can recollect it, so in any particular case, if the decision had been officially reached it would have been officially recorded in the minutes by the Officials. And if it isn't then it wasn't.

You can quote Yes, Prime Minister all you want but it doesn't really change the fact that some of the stuff you've done has been ridiculous.

[Wisp]

Well, I keep a word doc of all my stuff, ship production, naval production, researches, Rare material (duna) production, antimatter production, population, gdp, and so on. I don't report everything though, since it's not needed right now.

[indy500fan]

I last looked at this topic when it was still in OT, and this will probably be my last look ever.

 

I am giving my empire to doom, since she ran it about as long as I did anyways. Off the top of my head I remember having Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and part of the Antarctic on Earth, plus my Martian colonies (the joint colony and Thorland) and the extrasolar planet colonies, then in the solar system I had space for around 800,000 people (only 100,000 there) in the space stations around Venus and space for around 200,000 people (with around 50,000 there) around Europa (Jupiter's ice moon), with a small colony on Europa (space stations were self sustaining). The fleet of around 14 ships I left on an order to continually build colonies but that was month or two ago and I haven't checked in so you can count those or not. All these numbers might be nothing to your empires now. There were two space ship production facilities supposed to continually manufacture the ships so you can count those or not also. One was around Jupiter and the other around Psyche 16. Also around Psyche 16 were legacy space stations able to self sustain around 100 people. After buying the Baltic countries I had around $1 trillion left in the sovereign wealth fund, so I guess a good way to decide what I have is count all those space stations and ships as being built, or nothing was built and all my expendable money went into the wealth fund, or if you want to be mean about it say since I left nothing with my empire has happened :smile: .

 

Of course I have no idea what the ingame situation is and I may not have much of this stuff anymore. Doesn't matter, doom gets everything I had left. Now I remember why I quit, I ramble and my post to give her everything takes half an hour to write.

[archimage_a]

You can quote Yes, Prime Minister all you want but it doesn't really change the fact that some of the stuff you've done has been ridiculous.

Obviously I have. I am not an expert by any means. However if three or more people disagree with me, and no one agrees, then I will usually back down. For the most part I am unpleasantly surprised by the lack of response, like me saying I will build a million point space station and no one disagrees for two weeks and then they think that I might have invested some time in it so try to torch it.

For the most part it is ignored until I assert my right to use it.

 

 

I mean I could just invent a spreadsheet on a secret project.... Say I started a secret project tomorrow and two months time there was some crisis, but don't worry this was the crisis that my secret project was designed to deal with. And don't worry I have 9 more secret projects designed to deal with every issue there ever will be.

 

The point is not whether I can run a good empire it is whether I can distinguish between me as a player and what I can get away with, and me as a moderator enforcing the rules and acting reasonably given my lack of information because people refuse to give it to me.

So it boils down to do you want a War Judge or are you happy to scream it out amongst yourselves? And if you want a war judge then you need to furnish him/her with all the data that you think is necessary and accept that if you leave stuff out they will fill in the gaps based on random number generators.

Or you need to tell me how I am supposed to fill in the gaps because, Dusty, what you basically don't get is that I am a moderator here to help you play your game because I was asked to help you play your game. If you are going to make my job harder by not telling me anything then I am not going to scurry around begging for scraps of information so you can power trip on denying the 'hired help' of all the tools they require, I will random number generate the results and you can deal with the fallout.

Given the flexibility of the system, given the fact that I am willing to sacrifice hours of my life to make your life slightly more enjoyable(and if not yours then at least some of the people here), I don't think me asking you for your fleet size, which you should already have...so basically I am asking you to spent a minute copying and pasting some figures over....is extensively complicated.

And if you have a problem with that then tell me and help me resolve that problems....

 

You know what I feel like, I feel like a guy who is being told that he is being sued for ordaining to ask someone if they want help carrying their shopping. That I am being put up on trial for asking people if there is anything I can do for them....That I am generally being punished for being exploited. By all means treat me the same as everyone else, argue with me, but don't try to make my life more difficult.

[Guest Mrmegakirby]

Alright, I'm designing a new capsule, about the size of a waterbottle, NOT capable of FTL travel, which can only hold about 5 pounds of gear. More info later.

[archimage_a]

Well, I keep a word doc of all my stuff, ship production, naval production, researches, Rare material (duna) production, antimatter production, population, gdp, and so on. I don't report everything though, since it's not needed right now.

Indeed that is fine. As long as I am kept up to date with your defences and am kept generally aware of your research projects(Simply as a check and balance) then the economics of things are up to you. If there is something I strongly disagree with then I will ask for more information about it.

 

I would like to standardize things but given the fact that this is not a hardcore roleplaying game I don't think the players will be terribly enthralled by doing so, hence why I am suggesting and if people want to take a more hardcore approach they can and if they don't then they don't have to.

 

And about New Russia...Is it fair that you get a system which no one else can see? Its not unreasonable to ask for details on it.

[RpgGamer]

I'm going to create 3 stations per turn in Eos, and the rest of my points are going towards creating my new ships, and other ships as well.

 

 

likewise. I have 5.5k construction points. I constantly build a certain number of carriers and battleships every year. I was stacking points, which I will now use to construct space stations (the ones that actually matter and build stuff). In addition, I'm redirecting some funding that was previously in mining research to making said space stations "better" and worth more.

 

Also, regarding regional influence. I'm not sure what that giant yellow circle was implying, but I would think I have pretty heavy influence over Ominlife and Met'Al. Not sure if that was properly labeld or not, it's tough to tell with no map legend.

[Retech]

Actually I thought it was very reasonable, it was more that just randomly inventing fleets, as Retech did and as people have done in the past with armies, tends to screw up the game. I remember the arguments about raising something like half your population was soldiers, clearly clear rules need to be defined or else we can just make stuff up.

 

I'd just like to note that I was not aware of any system to keep track, and no one ever told me a standard version that everyone used. So, I tried to wing it. Obviously, I didn't quite succeed, but at least I tried. I think that my fleet is perfectly reasonable. As for where my fleet is located, it is floating around Recea Decimus.

 

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Is it just me, or are all the systems I own part of someone elses influence? I don't see how Archi's influence extends over most of my systems (frankly, I'd rather have that as my area or Dusty's, as he hasn't lended my ships and taken them back after I paid for them). So, basically in summary, if there is another person's influence over my lands, I'd like it to be Dusty.

 

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To Mather, I'll allow you to send your people to live on the lands on Capiah IF you send a massive defence fleet to Recea Decimus. Atlantis would be nice, but it isn't required. :thumbsup:

[archimage_a]

I don't mind not protecting your system, I just thought that since it was under attack I shouldn't say 'Hey Dusty, do you want a unified defence plan, if you just defend the systems that are under attack and I defend the systems that arnt...'

 

Keeping track is kind of the point of Astrosynth, since we can all see a version of the map which was correct about a week ago...and since it is interactive it is all in one place with one search bar.

 

Anyway if Dusty wants you then that is cool, if not then I am happy to guard my rear by defending your planet(though at this rate it looks like no one wants a unified defence plan except me and Sere so I might just stick to Adrigas.

 

Also, regarding regional influence. I'm not sure what that giant yellow circle was implying, but I would think I have pretty heavy influence over Ominlife and Met'Al. Not sure if that was properly labeld or not, it's tough to tell with no map legend.

Well the Yellow thing is the area I am willing to defend if forced and the agreement I was expecting from the others. If you want to propose some sort of joint venture then be my guest.

 

Fleet deployment for the 6th

http://www.esnips.com/doc/94fcfdb2-47a9-4aa0-a91f-a47a22e70ae8/Hegemony-map6

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1st fleet is 2 Caps and 48 fighter

2nd is 1 cap and 29 fighter

3rd is 1 cap and 29

4th is 1 cap and 29

5th is 1 and 9

6th is 1 and 29

7th is 2 and 48

Home Fleet is 1 Capital and 39 Fighter and Kent.

[paul191600]

Are those your fleets or invasion fleets?

[Grim_]

That reminds me Archi I would be interested in a unified front :D Lets just say I have a rather large fleet (I scavenged a fair chunk of the mars asteroid belt and the kuiper belt to make it ) and I will send you the specifics later.

[The Dark Lord]

I again don't have much of a report.

 

Basically, I'm still pumping out defensive ships and defensive structures in Kajea.

 

Cities continue to be built. Yada yada.

 

Researching a new device. RpgGamer has the details in his PM.

 

The project that Rpg and I are working on still continues. Archimage knows all the fine little details. Let's just hope that this project sucks.

 

@Archimage:

 

The alien invader random events aren't designed to wreck everything, correct? I assume that the event will be over soon.

[The_Mather1]

I believe my combat ships have returned from nowhere.

I send Daedalus carrying 3000 fighters and 1000 jumpers as well as five flatpacked drone chairs and 100,000 drones to Recea Decemus(sorry Retech, that is the ammount of combat capable ships I have the ability to send into warp, with the exeption of Atlantis which I prefer to keep safe).

 

I send 5000 tel'taks to the Capiahs carrying 100,000 people(jaffa, human and goa'uld) and the materials and technologies neccesary for building colonies.

 

[spoiler=Income]Taxes

Human

160 000 000 000

50 000

30 %

2 400 000 000 000 000

 

Jaffa

2 600 000

60 000

25 %

39 000 000 000

 

Goa'uld

2 700

1 500 000

10 %

405 000 000

 

Loan

1 500 000 000

5 %

75 000 000

 

Building company

Apartements

5 000

30 000

40 %

60 000 000

 

Townhouses

2 500

75 000

40 %

75 000 000

 

Farms

900

125 000

40 %

45 000 000

 

Mansions

1 500

1 000 000

40 %

600 000 000

 

Pyramids

50

5 000 000

40 %

100 000 000

 

Trade

Ring transporters

500 000

 

Naguadah bars

1 000 000

 

Drone sets

2 000 000 000

 

Tel'tac cargoships

5 000 000 000

 

 

Sales

Ross

500 000 000

 

Archi

1 000 000

 

 

Income

2 400 040 861 000 000

 

Budget

10 %

240 004 086 100 000

 

 

[Retech]

That's fine.

 

 

Archi, I would be interested in a unified defence plan. I've sent everything I have to intercept the fleet at Recea Decimus. I was looking at influence more like territory, so I was wondering how I had none. :thumbsup: Should I resend my fleet stats?

 

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System: Capiah

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Planet: Capiah 1 and 2 (same stats)

Distance: 175,000,000 km

Radius: 8,000

Gravity: 1.3 G

Orbit Period: 390 days

Rotation: 22.8 hrs

Mean Temp: 18 C

Atmosphere: 1.2 ATM (N2 73%, O2 26%, Ar 1%,)

Hospitable

Population: 75,000,000

Moons: None

 

About it: Capiah is the most established colony besides that of Japan on Earth. With a quickly expanding population and abundant species of kelp, the settlers are thriving. The relatively large amount of land is still mostly unused, aside from defences, but future uses could be found.

 

Military:

Regulars: 100,000

Heavy Battleships: LDS Sea Kelp, LDS Sea Current, LDS Wave, LDS Kelp Seed (1 per day total)

Battleships: 4 (1 a day)

Fighters: 20 (10 a day)

Transports: 0 (100 a day)

 

Transports currently heading to Capiah:

 

 

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System: Recea Decimus

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Planet: Erikio

Distance: 500,000,000 km

Radius: 18,000 km

Gravity: 2 G

Orbit Period: 747 days

Rotation: 18 hrs

Mean Temp: 20 C (really hot on the surface, cool in the oceans)

Atmosphere: 2 atm (N 58 %, O2 28%, Ar 2%, Carbon Dioxide 12%)

Hospitable

Population: 24,000,000

Moons: None

 

Erikio is the seat of the Lichtes government and homeworld to most of its people. Skyscrapers exist that are taller than almost any structure on Earth, mainly because the buoyancy that the water provides. It is covered by 99% water, with the land harnessed to grow luxury food crops, meat, and defensive installations.

 

Military:

Regulars: 25,000,000

Heavy Battleships: LDS Sturgeon, LDS Sea king, LDS Fried Fish, LDS Wavebreaker, LDS Manta Line(1 per turn)

Battleships: 25 (5 a turn)

Fighters: 250 (50 a turn)

Transports: 0 (100 a day)

 

 

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[hide=Meoxo]

 

System: Meoxo

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Planet: New Erikio (Replaces aquatic)

Distance: 160,000,000 km

Radius: 7500 km

Gravity: 1.1G

Orbit Period: 385 days

Rotation: 22.9 hrs

Mean Temp: 287K/17C

Atmosphere: 1 atm (N2 78%, O2 21%, Ar 1%)

Hospitable

Population: 720,000,000

Moons: None

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New Erikio has quickly been upgraded into a full scale military base. Massive underground tunnels snake through the continental shelf and deeper into the sea crust. The majority of Lichtes citizens live here, sheltered from infectious viruses and invading aliens by the limitless fortifications and defences. This is a major Iridium monopole mining base. Deep within the tunnels, the worst of society (over 200 million) trudge down into the mines to get as much Iridium ion as they can. The ones that give above average get a comfortable bed for the night, while those below average can either go back to their homes or go down to get more Iridium to get a bed.

 

Military:

Regulars: 100,000

Heavy battleships:

Battleships: 6 (2 per turn)

Fighters: 40 (10 per turn)

Transports: 0 (100 per turn)

 

Transports currently heading to Erikio:

 

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[hide=Technology in progress]

 

Name: Coilguns

Completion Date: December 20th

Effects: Uses monopoles to power a gun which has little to no recoil

 

Name: Scram Cannon

Completion Date: Christmas!

Effects: Uses Kinetic energy and supersonic combustion to launch a projectile as far as other weapons without the complexity.

 

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[hide=Constructions]

 

Name: Sector E battlestation

Completion Date: December 7th

Effects: Helps defend Japan from space attacks

 

Name: Earth to Space Artillery Batteries

Completion Date: December 7th

Effects: Massive Artillery and Flak installations are built on land and flotation devices on sea. The ones on land often have a tunnel that goes down into the main tunnels, but these are sealed except during peacetime. Though the projectiles cannot aim straight (due to the winds), the massive amounts of artillery flying through the air and the expanse of their fleet makes it easy to hit. If the enemy begins to land, then it will be far easier to hit them.

 

Name: Sector VI battlestations

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Colonizes Capiah VI

 

Name: Sector VII battlestations

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Colonized Capiah VII

 

Name: Sector Capital battlestation

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Protects Erikio

 

Name: Royal Engineering school of Erikio

Competion Date: December 1st

Effects: Increase production of engineers, speeds up spacefleet construction and design

 

Name: Lichtes Embassy in Kyoto, Japan

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: None, just housing for royal officials

 

Name: Sector O Bunker

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Hides up to 50 million people in a defensive location with filtration and food

 

Name: Advanced tunnel fortifications and life support

Completion Date: First Phase, December 1st (Ongoing)

Effects: Increases time Japan can withstand siege, increases defence bonus slightly

 

Name: Advanced Tunnel fortification and life support systems

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Provides housing, food, and supplies in the event of a virus attack

 

Name: LDS Ocean Trench

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Super battleship

 

Name: LDS Manta Ray

Completion Date: December 1st

Effects: Super battleship

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Regulars: ~50,000,000 (Possible 300 million + availible to be conscripted)

Super Battleships: LDS Ocean Trench, LDS Manta Ray

Heavy Battleships: 13

Battleships: ~65

Fighters: ~ 800

Transports: 800

 

Super Battleships: Produced on case by case basis

Heavy Battleships: 1 per turn

Battleships: 5 a turn

Fighters: 100 a turn

Transports: 100 a turn

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I am also constructing bunkers on land and some flotation devices. These will have Surface-Space/Air artillery which can lob millions of shells (total for the planet, only a quarter can be firing at the same time unless it is a big fleet) per minute (the artillery isn't super advanced, but it is designed for firing long distances). This will be on all planets, but mainly Recea Decimus. The virus that Kirby dropped won't have an effect on these, as they are completely inclosed.

[archimage_a]

Are those your fleets or invasion fleets?

Just my fleets.

 

The alien invader random events aren't designed to wreck everything, correct? I assume that the event will be over soon.

I wouldn't say soon, probably they will hold onto Sephar. Depending on the battle for Sinabo and Reccea Demicus(Which I am getting better at typing) will probably determine how things run after that. If things get too out of hand then some sort of compromise will be found. I think if more than 4 systems fall(since prior to now the plan was to abandon Centuri, Sinabo and Reccea Demicus, it seemed so I assume that is the extent people are willing to accept), or if the combined spacefleet is wiped out, then I will work something out.

It won't be completely game wrecking.

 

Should I resend my fleet stats?

Yup, anyone who is deploying fleets(or anyone who just wants to make my life easier) should send me fleet stats.

 

Anyway currently the map looks like:

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Also reports from gravity bended(Semi-cloaked) Caravels indicate the following things:

Ships look like:

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Ships appear to have a rotating turrent, power unknown. Also numerous airlocks which can launch people into space. The people are exo-suited and move at very fast speeds. Scans of the people show that they are extensively linked into the the suits so probably never take them off(of specific importance to Doom). The Exo-Suits look extremely powerful and are probably a much bigger threat than the main gun if a ship doesn't have point defence lasers(if a ship does have point defence lasers then the cannon is probably more of a threat).

Assumed number is in the tens of thousands(Specifically 19,000), but current 'point' indications show them only to be battleships, and there seems only to be one type of ship. Further scans hint at a super ship at the heart of the swarm but Caravel did not get close enough to find out.

Caravel stayed with the swarm until it reached the edge of the warp dampening zone(from the *Heavy Space* Portal, which extends out 5 years) when they all went to warp. Approximately 14k and super ship(not a super battleship) on course to Sephar, 1k to Alpha Centuri, 2k to Sinabo and 1k to Reccea Demicus.

 

Thus they have an effective point value of 1.9 Million, but most of that is tied up in Sephar.

 

(As a note, gravity lensing, my cloaking tech, is only 300/360 efficent. So it can only be cloaked from 300 degrees, not the full 360. This is because light is distorted(by gravity) by dense strange matter spheres held near the ship. If this was extended all the way around the ship it would become a solar oven and so the light is vented though 60 degrees.)

(Also as a note I am gonna try calculating with a more complicated system. Still using Annihilation calculation as a checksum though.

[The_Mather1]

I start researching different aspects of advanced genetics, however most focus is put on the neural part.

I will not set a finished time for this as it is a continous research, however sub-branches will come an they may or may not be time-based.

[archimage_a]

Just make sure you message me when you decide to sub branch.

[Aeon_]

Back again. :)

 

Flashlight production-16/17

 

Prism lasers-3/10

 

12 cruisers

and

15 destoyers have been produced.

 

 

All new ships are concentrating on destroying the alien fleet. Mechs are being fitted with fusion nukes (only a few don't worry). They will board the alien ships with the other mechs and when they reach a good position within the ships, they will detonate them. They will also scan the aliens and their ships, which the data will be gathered for.

If you're wondering where I got them from, it was from when I was in the NWO; we all had nukes.