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PvP is alot less safe then you could imagine (DDOS'ing)


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Why did you give the IP....Didn't you have any idea of what they could have possibly done?. Hope you learned your lesson :S.



In my own opinion, this is a noob way to 'PK', if you can even call it that




in my opinion this doesnt count as pking


then your an idiot and you "opinion" is invalid. there is no "opinion" on what does and doesnt count, there is simply pking and different ways to do it, and everyone has a style they prefer. its people like you, trying to brainwash people into thinking that your way is the only way to do something, that make us all look bad. please, try to use some common sence in the future




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I'm pretty sure that this thread was 'bout ppl who have been ddos'd and methods to prevent it. Not about attacking pj'ers and rushers in general.

That said, a good way to prevent ddos is to setup a firewall with ingress and egress filtering.



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It may seem like the posters here are pretty sour, which can be explained by 3 things.



1. You were rushing. No one likes rushers. Even people who don't pk dislike rushers because there is a good chance that they're friends that do pk don't like them.



2. You were negligent. You didn't assume any risks, and ended up becoming victim of a scam.



3. Plays into 2, but pvp isn't more dangerous with this added scam. It's like when people lured merchanters into wild. Most people would realize what was happening, and move on. The wild is still just as safe/dangerous, however being on un-trusted IRC's is in fact dangerous.



Sorry for your loss, but I agree that rushers really are pathetic. I don't care if it's more efficient then 1v1 pking. If you use claws as a spec weapon, then it's cool. But standing in high bonus gear with protect melee on, waiting for an innocent victim is a joke.
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Most people can't switch weapons well, like me. I tried using my d claws in 2 fights, I switched too slowly and allowed my opponent to eat twice. It's why I prefer the AGS over the D claws, as D claws are only useful for pjing and killing targs in a no armor fight. Why do you see so many d claw pjers? It's because most people suck at switching.

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You ought to know better than to use 3rd party crap or take things you don't want to loose across the ditch.

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He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol


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Well, One point, Karma for Dragon claw rushing, anyhow to the posed question, I've been Ddos twice, One was kinda my own fault, one was something just lame.

First one, I went onto a friend's account and did jad for him, account got hacked and he hadn't logged on it since i did, so the hacker wanted to ddos my friend, instead dosing me.



Second time was pking with a friend, using his own Teamspeak server, From what i know you can see people's IPs via the server, guess he wanted backstab me, and ta-da.
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Even if we forget the fact that A) you were rushing and B) it was your own fault this happened to you, it still doesn't explain why you were risking that much unless you were willing to lose it before you crossed into wildy.
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I myself have been ddos'd and I was not even in a irc channel I just see 2 random people i don't know come up to me start saying "hey darkbowzer" "i love you" 3 seconds later lost connection and came back dead in edge

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sounds like to me that according to you, u weredoin fine soloing. so why on earth would u team with randoms u dont even know. i would never trust anyone on the game to team and pk with that i didnt know for awhile on the game. it was a dumb choice on ur part and i hope u learned from it

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What is a BNC?






Sort of like an automatic proxy for the IRC... From my understanding.
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Even if we forget the fact that A) you were rushing and B) it was your own fault this happened to you, it still doesn't explain why you were risking that much unless you were willing to lose it before you crossed into wildy.




i dont think anyone enters the wild wanting to lose there items.. but i was aware of the danger and all.. if i had died due to something stupid like pray running out or soemthing (like my other 2 claws) then i would just laugh.. but when people have to be this pathetic its kinda sad

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You guy's realize that it is possible for anyone who can post here to get your ip when you view their siggy? Would just take some more effort, but you'd be none the wiser as to who did it.

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You guy's realize that it is possible for anyone who can post here to get your ip when you view their siggy? Would just take some more effort, but you'd be none the wiser as to who did it.




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True but there is no way of really telling who the user is. Sending someone a link to a page or an image would be enough however. Whereas IRC is alot more accurate.



Anyway its a DOS not DDos, pretty sure its just constant pinging of the rs port which could easily be done from one source.



Simple way around it is BNC or reset your IP before pking and don't visit any IRC while doing so..


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Please don't flame n00b he is just trying to bring a problem to light and to warn you all of the risks; if you want to be a [bleep] to him go do it elsewhere.



Like in IRC. L.



Bad luck on the claws :thumbdown:

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You should learn not to mess with modes you don't know.




Indeed. Sorry that you lost Claws and so on, but you do have to be quite unintelligent to give away your IP in such a way. Learning the basics of protecting you and your identity online will go a long way. :thumbup:

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DDOS or direct denail of service attack has been more popular after I first saw it happen to theuberelite. Now there are people making videos about the highly illegal act. It was also rumored that one of Jagex's servers in the US got ddos'd causing the worlds it holds to be down for a few days.




DDOS stands for distributed denial of service.



Also I think he was DOSed rather than DDOSed.



Application level floods



On IRC, IRC floods are a common electronic warfare weapon.



Various DoS-causing exploits such as buffer overflow can cause server-running software to get confused and fill the disk space or consume all available memory or CPU time.



Other kinds of DoS rely primarily on brute force, flooding the target with an overwhelming flux of packets, oversaturating its connection bandwidth or depleting the target's system resources. Bandwidth-saturating floods rely on the attacker having higher bandwidth available than the victim; a common way of achieving this today is via Distributed Denial of Service, employing a botnet. Other floods may use specific packet types or connection requests to saturate finite resources by, for example, occupying the maximum number of open connections or filling the victim's disk space with logs.



A "banana attack" is another particular type of DoS. It involves redirecting outgoing messages from the client back onto the client, preventing outside access, as well as flooding the client with the sent packets.



An attacker with access to a victim's computer may slow it until it is unusable or crash it by using a fork bomb.




My sympathies to you noobfiterpk. Getting cheated by out of game methods hurts worse than losing stuff legally ingame.

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So can this only occur if you're doing something that allows another to see your IP? If a Pker simply only had Runescape open they would generally be safe from such an attack?


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Sucks for you but you learned a lesson, and yes I've been DDOS'ed and pinged on Tibia (another MMORPG) where you have even sadder people then on RS.
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