gorgoroth Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I need some advice from people with 85 Slayer. I know both of my questions are going to be hard to answer but i just need a "estimate" or a "ball park figure". I'm about 72k from 80 Slayer. How many tasks will i need to complete to get to 85 Slayer? Also ive got just about enough charms for 82 Summoning, will 85 Slayer put me anywhere near enough for 90 Summoning? If not, were should it put me? Which would be the better way to make money after getting 85 Slayer? Spiritual Mages or Abbysal Demons? I'll be looking to make round about 250M to get myself to 90+ Summoning, maybe 99 Prayer and have enough money for some decent GWD Armour. So, any advice? EDIT: I have an estimate of about 100 - 110 tasks before i get to 85 Slayer, is that nearly correct? Also i've hear Mages are better money, but i just need some advice from expienced players. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4duke Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 As far as I'm aware of, mages are constant profit, but dragon boots are dropping and whip is rising to 3m. So if you would want to get the best money, I'd go for Abyssal Demons. You won't get to 90 Summoning. I am pretty sure of that. Maybe 87-88, unless to get very very good charm droppers. I think I average like 17k xp/hour from Duradel dude. (Even if I don't have 85 slayer just yet). Making 250m will take a lot camping at abby demons anyway :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 As far as I'm aware of, mages are constant profit, but dragon boots are dropping and whip is rising to 3m. So if you would want to get the best money, I'd go for Abyssal Demons. You won't get to 90 Summoning. I am pretty sure of that. Maybe 87-88, unless to get very very good charm droppers. I think I average like 17k xp/hour from Duradel dude. (Even if I don't have 85 slayer just yet). Making 250m will take a lot camping at abby demons anyway :-s Well by the time i get 85 Slayer i'm sure that the whip will have gone down again too, so i guess constant income is better than "luck based" income. And making 250M is quite a large target but i dont intend on getting all of it from just Mages/Demons, there will be alot of Aramdyl, Bandos and Saradomin Boss Hunting inbetween. So that should lighten the load. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterhawk18 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 if my memory serves correct it took roughly 140 tasks for me to get from 78 slayer to where i am now which is about 100k off 86 but this is over a larger exp range then what you would require for 85, so the estimate of 100-110 sounds right as for your demons v. mages question it really depends on prices cashwise but abbys have valueable drops other than whips, whereas mages only drop some pure ess and a little bit of nats/astrals, abbys are a little more luck based because you can kill 1k without a whip or get 2 in 100 kills, but in the longrun it should average out to about the same cash/hr as mages, perhaps even better if whips keep rising. But demons also drop a decent amount of charms whereas mages drop none and I believe they are also a little bit better xp/hr, so unless whips drop to 1.5m again and d boots somehow stay around 350k-400k id say stick with abbys as somebody else already said I doubt you get passed 88 summoning unless you get alot of waterfiend/black demon tasks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quorra Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 It took me 210 tasks for me to get from 75-85 but some were low XP tasks, so I'm guessing for you, 100-150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I was level 78 when I did Smoking kills. I just reached level 85 slayer and I am on my 98th task. Duradel/Lapalok only. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Sp Mages are better then Abbys. For making money. But SP mages don't drop any charms, and Abbys drop crimsons fairly often. So once you get to 85 you can camp Abbys, get some charms and maybe a few whips. But there are also other people that camp Abbys making it hard to get kills for yourself. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibberEsh Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 For your summoning question, you'll probably get to 86-88, but definitely not 90 like someone said. You'll find that camping gets quite boring but that's your choice. If you kill in the abbysal plane (A L R), you will hardly have competition unlike the slayer tower. Also, don't be expecting whips to fly out and they are rather slow to kill. I think mages make more profit since dboots are more common but if you want to reach 90 summoning, go kill abbys. You could always mix em up so you don't die of boredom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Camping usually isn't very good profit anyway, from my averages, I made around 450k per hour at abyssal demons, back when I was camping for a head. Mages, on the other hand, are about 500k per hour by my counts Seriously, you're way better off doing something else for money, and not crowding up the slayer locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I got ~18k xp/task 83-88 slayer. So, that would be around 73 tasks to get 85. Summoning seems to be 0.8 summoning xp/slay xp or something, so getting 85 slayer would get you around 1m xp in charms, or close to level 86. Since you don't need melee xp but do need charms, abyssal demons would probably be better to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Well it seems that ill be looking at 86-ish Summoning then :) Camping usually isn't very good profit anyway, from my averages, I made around 450k per hour at abyssal demons, back when I was camping for a head. Mages, on the other hand, are about 500k per hour by my counts Seriously, you're way better off doing something else for money, and not crowding up the slayer locations. And 500k an hour seems very good. I doubt ill look for any other way to make money because i love melee and the nly other faster option would be Green Dragons. Since i find them amazingly boring after killing over 15k of them over my time i guess ill just have to crowd up slayer locations. I'm sure people will understand ;) **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Having just got 85 Tuesday, I hit 265 tasks in a row. I believe I started putting them in a row from around level 50. I'd say it will get you about 5 or 6 Summoning levels maybe, but I like to camp Waterfiends so I can't exactly say. Personally I'd just stick with Slayer for your money. I've made over 1mil on even a Gargoyle task, 1.2mil on a Spirit mage task, and just yesterday I got lucky with 2 whips and a Sara helm clue, so just sticking with Slayer seems to pay well, plus you're always training at least 3 skills with it :thumbsup: Click Here for a Common Sense Dungeoneering Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Personally I'd just stick with Slayer for your money. I've made over 1mil on even a Gargoyle task, 1.2mil on a Spirit mage task, and just yesterday I got lucky with 2 whips and a Sara helm clue, so just sticking with Slayer seems to pay well, plus you're always training at least 3 skills with it :thumbsup: I did think about doing this but then money making becomes a "down to the draw" kind of skill. What i mean by that is i will only make good money if i get good assignments. In all honesty what are the chances of me getting alot of Mages and Abby's for tasks? Chances are slim. Unless someone can convince me that i'll make more money with Slayer getting while getting alot of tasks such as Dagannoths and Bloodvelds which make very little money, i think sticking to camping would be a better option. Camping at a NPC and killing it because of a task doesnt influence the droprate of its rares anyway, so it won't make much of a difference. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Depending on how you do tasks you can make a nice amount of money. Dags under the lighthouse are fast. But if you pray them in the CT you can make maybe 100k profit a task. Or you can kill the Dag Kings and have a chance at some of their rarer drops. If you can kill Mutated Bloodvelds they are good exp tasks. They also drop lots of alchables. Most tasks its not the rare drops that make money, its mostly the common drops such as herbs, seeds, and rune drops (that you alch). Now a few rare drops here and there will add up. But you can make money from other methods. Also if you do slayer, don't forget to do farming on the side along with MTK. These also affect how much money you can gain. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Personally I'd just stick with Slayer for your money. I've made over 1mil on even a Gargoyle task, 1.2mil on a Spirit mage task, and just yesterday I got lucky with 2 whips and a Sara helm clue, so just sticking with Slayer seems to pay well, plus you're always training at least 3 skills with it :thumbsup: I did think about doing this but then money making becomes a "down to the draw" kind of skill. What i mean by that is i will only make good money if i get good assignments. In all honesty what are the chances of me getting alot of Mages and Abby's for tasks? Chances are slim. Unless someone can convince me that i'll make more money with Slayer getting while getting alot of tasks such as Dagannoths and Bloodvelds which make very little money, i think sticking to camping would be a better option. Camping at a NPC and killing it because of a task doesnt influence the droprate of its rares anyway, so it won't make much of a difference. dags do drop dagg hides frequently which are used for summoning. if you sell them you will profit, not as much as mages and abyss but still. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Personally I'd just stick with Slayer for your money. I've made over 1mil on even a Gargoyle task, 1.2mil on a Spirit mage task, and just yesterday I got lucky with 2 whips and a Sara helm clue, so just sticking with Slayer seems to pay well, plus you're always training at least 3 skills with it :thumbsup: I did think about doing this but then money making becomes a "down to the draw" kind of skill. What i mean by that is i will only make good money if i get good assignments. In all honesty what are the chances of me getting alot of Mages and Abby's for tasks? Chances are slim. Unless someone can convince me that i'll make more money with Slayer getting while getting alot of tasks such as Dagannoths and Bloodvelds which make very little money, i think sticking to camping would be a better option. Camping at a NPC and killing it because of a task doesnt influence the droprate of its rares anyway, so it won't make much of a difference. dags do drop dagg hides frequently which are used for summoning. if you sell them you will profit, not as much as mages and abyss but still. Somehow I think he is using the LT daggonoths, but if it is profit you're looking for you should consider doing the CT ones as they pay back for the cost in prayer pots and more : . http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Took me ~30-40 tasks to get from 78-83, so something around there. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 Personally I'd just stick with Slayer for your money. I've made over 1mil on even a Gargoyle task, 1.2mil on a Spirit mage task, and just yesterday I got lucky with 2 whips and a Sara helm clue, so just sticking with Slayer seems to pay well, plus you're always training at least 3 skills with it :thumbsup: I did think about doing this but then money making becomes a "down to the draw" kind of skill. What i mean by that is i will only make good money if i get good assignments. In all honesty what are the chances of me getting alot of Mages and Abby's for tasks? Chances are slim. Unless someone can convince me that i'll make more money with Slayer getting while getting alot of tasks such as Dagannoths and Bloodvelds which make very little money, i think sticking to camping would be a better option. Camping at a NPC and killing it because of a task doesnt influence the droprate of its rares anyway, so it won't make much of a difference. dags do drop dagg hides frequently which are used for summoning. if you sell them you will profit, not as much as mages and abyss but still. Somehow I think he is using the LT daggonoths, but if it is profit you're looking for you should consider doing the CT ones as they pay back for the cost in prayer pots and more : . I am infact using the CT dags, but they only make me a small profit each trip. Maybe 100k after paying for the P Pots. You cant really get "rich" from 100k. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixcire Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 abyssal demons are a dissapointment for me i would rather get mages for boots ive had 8 abyssal tasks since 85 slayer and only 2 whip drops D.Drops=Skirt9 Med9 Spear2 Visage2 Legs6 boots35 shield half1 whip15 dbow5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 Then i would just like to find out wether or not my setups are okay. for melee i use the following: Guthan Plate Guthans Skirt Slayer Helm R O W Barrows Gloves Whip Rune Def Dragon Boots Skillcape (t) Fury Im planning on swithing the Guthans Skirt to Dharoks Legs later today. For ranged i use the following: Full Black Dragonhide Snakeskin Boots Barrows Gloves R O W Accumulator Fury Slayer Helm Unholy Book MSB/Rune Crossbow Im Planning on buying a Robin and Ranger Boots soon as i can. For Mage Def i just use Black D'hide but im planning on buying Karil's soon as i have the funds. Right now im saving up for a Zammy Spear for Waterfiend Tasks. Ive also got a friend that lends me his SGS 24hours a day, so ive basically got an SGS too. Decent enough? **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrost Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 abyssal demons are a dissapointment for me i would rather get mages for boots ive had 8 abyssal tasks since 85 slayer and only 2 whip drops Agreed, even though I just had 3 whips in 2 tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 hey, i recently got 85 slayer(within the last week) and it's been a disappointment, i have killed about 300 abby demons and none of the drops so far are any good, i much prefer the spiritual mages, they are much better money maker for me but at first i did go through a bad drop streak with them with 600 kills and only 2 dragon boots, i'm now on 12 boots in 1300 kills. [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 hey, i recently got 85 slayer(within the last week) and it's been a disappointment, i have killed about 300 abby demons and none of the drops so far are any good, i much prefer the spiritual mages, they are much better money maker for me but at first i did go through a bad drop streak with them with 600 kills and only 2 dragon boots, i'm now on 12 boots in 1300 kills. Wow 12 boots in 1300kills is pretty impressive. How many will i be able to kill a hour with maxed melee though? And willl i get bored of them fast? **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 they are pretty easy to kill as they spend most of their time killing other monsters, you can camp there for pretty much ever due to them only dropping runes and noted ess, but your bag will get full from the dragon boots drop, i think the drop rate of dragon boots is something like 1 in 70..so 12 in 1300 isn't that good. I would sufggest that you get 85 slayer anyway so when you go to gwd and your stat get lowered by one you don't have to wait for it to restore for you to be able to kill the mages. [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 they are pretty easy to kill as they spend most of their time killing other monsters, you can camp there for pretty much ever due to them only dropping runes and noted ess, but your bag will get full from the dragon boots drop, i think the drop rate of dragon boots is something like 1 in 70..so 12 in 1300 isn't that good. I would sufggest that you get 85 slayer anyway so when you go to gwd and your stat get lowered by one you don't have to wait for it to restore for you to be able to kill the mages. dragon boots droprate is about 1/100 http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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