Why is this tolerated?

[Romy]

Americans are more incline to be less intelligent and culturally educated as European races if you think about it.

 

Since we are in a trophy age, where people get fancy degrees because "daddy" can pay for them and we have laws like "No Child Left Behind" and everyone bows to the "bill"(money). This is opposed as my father said he use to go to an Italian school his family funded in Egypt, where he got no special treatment, went to school 6 days a week, and the school day started like 2hrs before what I start at.

 

Language is also something that plays a big part in intellectual growth. Because we consider Canada and Mexico second rate countries, we have little incentive to actually learn other languages then English. As opposed to when I went to Greece and a Greek person kept apologizing to me for their bad Italian, when they spoke Italian almost as well as me, and in France the same thing happened where people apologized for their "poor English" and yet they speak better then the hillbillies in America. Knowing more then one language obviously introduces you to a different culture, etc. but it also increases your ability to register and process information. The more languages you practice, the more able you are to think in different ways and such, which would make you adept at dealing with situations.

 

Plus if you speak a different language where I live, you're basically seen as a foreigner who should "go back to your own country". I'm in high school, and I was discussing something private with my friend in Arabic because I was troubled, and this half-pint nerd was getting annoyed because he couldn't understand, and he's like go back to your own country to make your terrorist plots, "ala mohammad jihad derka derka". Ha. Why is THAT tolerated? It goes both ways.

 

For the most part, it's not tolerated. Even though obviously some do speak in the name of racism in any way, racism towards Muslims, Jews, blacks, etc, is much less tolerated.

[fakeitormakeit2]

^Not really. If someone of African descent were to say someone called them the 'n' word, no question asked the person accused would go straight to be disciplined and what have you. After being a sand *guess what word* and having my intelligence belitted for 2yrs by the same kid, I reported him to guidance cuz it was getting annoying. I almost got suspended because he cried and told them that I bullied him and it was in his own aggravation that he called me that, and he actually got away with it. Now, other then the fact that I'm shorter, thinner, lighter then this kid as well as believe physical violence is a last resort, and I don't have even a demerit on my record I was still almost declared the person at fault. However, freshmen year someone called an African descendant the well known derogatory word and was suspended after being reported.

 

It is the racism in itself for racism defense priority that also provokes people to loath America and makes comments on them, but I don't agree with this two wrongs make a right idea, nonetheless it happens.

 

Plus Americans also sometimes assume and classify people into categories. A natural tendency in American: Middle Eastern=Speaks Arabic=Muslim. A good example of skipping common sense and listening to racial stereotype, seeing as how there's a 4:1 chance that a Middle Easterner in the USA is Christian/nonreligious.

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Which is just an example of one racial assumption that occurs in the US against commonly obtainable fact, out of probably many. But the reason why this incorrect presumption occurs? Because as I said in previous post, it doesn't matter if you offend anymore not under the American priority of racial defense.

[Dizzle229]

People do these things out of ignorance, simple as that. It works both ways.

 

"Any religion formed in the Middle East is some Arab BS" says some Christian kid in my class.

[fakeitormakeit2]

People do these things out of ignorance, simple as that. It works both ways.

 

"Any religion formed in the Middle East is some Arab BS" says some Christian kid in my class.

 

Lol that's funny. I'm quoting that in my sig for the irony.

[Dizzle229]

I now own 2 siggies. Now I can die in peace.

[TTanT]

^If I were you, I'd have agreed with the kid, then told him why.

 

But then, I tend to not know when to shut up.

[fakeitormakeit2]

^Too bad that would be ignorance on your part as well seeing as how Christianity and Judaism pre-dates the rise of Arabs :rolleyes:

[Alg]

^Too bad that would be ignorance on your part as well seeing as how Christianity and Judaism pre-dates the rise of Arabs :rolleyes:

And maybe yours too seeing as all three developed from the same general concept, region (might be wrong here), etc. Just different times. . Plus Arab isn't the same as Muslim if I'm not mistaken.

[fakeitormakeit2]

^Too bad that would be ignorance on your part as well seeing as how Christianity and Judaism pre-dates the rise of Arabs :rolleyes:

And maybe yours too seeing as all three developed from the same general concept, region (might be wrong here), etc. Just different times. . Plus Arab isn't the same as Muslim if I'm not mistaken.

 

I'm Middle Eastern. Everyone from the Middle East is not an Arab (example: Iranians call themselves Persians, a minority of Iraqi/Syrian people call themselves Assyrian). The Arabs came up from the southern section of the Arabian peninsula. I'm technically "Arab" to make it easier to explain, but many Lebanese people consider themselves descendants of the Phoenicians rather then of Arabs. Abraham (Judaism & father of all three) would be considered of Assyrian descent (Mesopotamian region) and Jesus(Christianity) would be an Israelite in the land of Greater Syria (under Roman rule). Mohammad (Islam) is the only starter of an Abrahamic faith that is an Arab.

[Serpent Eye]

Well, seeing as I'm neither fat, lazy, nor stupid, this doesn't really bother me too much.

 

It can become a tad annoying when people make judgments and generalizations about me just because I live in a certain country. Regardless of where I live, I will be the way I am. The country I live in has nothing to do with my personality, my weight, or my level of intelligence.

 

People's hypocrisy is just what gets to me. People in a clan chat in-game can go on and on and on about how stupid Americans are, or how terrible a country the USA is -- then I ask a simple question of, "What time is it for you Brits?" and people instantly start raging at me for using the word 'Brits.' <_<

 

The reverse of course applies to us in the USA -- if we don't want people bashing on our country, we should just be aware of what we say about other people's countries.

[Alg]

 

I'm Middle Eastern. Everyone from the Middle East is not an Arab (example: Iranians call themselves Persians, a minority of Iraqi/Syrian people call themselves Assyrian). The Arabs came up from the southern section of the Arabian peninsula. I'm technically "Arab" to make it easier to explain, but many Lebanese people consider themselves descendants of the Phoenicians rather then of Arabs. Abraham (Judaism & father of all three) would be considered of Assyrian descent (Mesopotamian region) and Jesus(Christianity) would be an Israelite in the land of Greater Syria (under Roman rule). Mohammad (Islam) is the only starter of an Abrahamic faith that is an Arab.

Oh. Thank you for clarifying that, and sorry for my own ignorance :lol:

[indy500fan]

Also only 20% of Muslims are Arabic.

[depresins]

I deal with a lot of anti-Americanism in the clan chat that I spend time in while I play. It's annoying, but I make the best of it by doing the same thing right back. For example, there's a lot of Kiwis (people from New Zealand; I have no idea what you would call someone from New Zealand other than a Kiwi) that hang out in the chat. When one of them starts going on about Americans, I just ask them how the weather is in Australia this week.

 

People from New Zealand hate being called Australians. It's very effective.

 

Call an Aussie a Kiwi in person. Guaranteed punch in the face.

 

Shut up you stupid kiwi! :P

 

Too harsh man :cry:

[i_love_burritos]

I know the reason.

 

I played some Xbox LIVE today aaaand it's because of Xbox LIVE. The Americans on there swear way too much and generally act like buffoons.

[Hasek]

Interesting thread to make my first post in.

I've been saying this for years; I'm happy I found someone who agrees. I think it's despicably unfair that if I am to say a derogatory word towards an African-American or a Jew (I'm Jewish, for crying out loud) I'll be hated and reviled. But if I make a joke about white people, or about "obese Americans" I'll get laughs and pats on the back.

[The Dark Lord]

That isn't racist. 'American' isn't a race (unless referring to the indigenous tribes).

 

Anyway, I'm going to post some foreign (English) perspectives about Americans.

 

Dear God! What in the HELL have you mates been drinking? I can't believe what I'm reading here! Have you all gone mad? America is not an ally? Missile launch codes?

What in the HELL is going on over there? You mates know as well as I know we Americans would fight to the death to defend England just as our fathers did in WWII! The remarks posted here are just plain wrong.

 

 

NJ Low Rider

USA

 

I know this has already been said, but I need to state it too.

 

Don't take it personal mate. It's not about you, it's about the government. We know genuine Americans like yourself would die for England as you are a brother in arms. I personally love America and have visited there a few times. It's the American government I dislike, just like the Brit government. As for the American people? well there are the good and bad, just like the English, and it's people like you NJ that make America great as you know where your roots lie.

 

We're all in the same boat, and both sides of the pond need rapid change.

 

 

NJ Low Rider, I think the question here should be is the American Government our ally? The friendship of Anglo-Americans is without question and doubtless. By-and-large my own answer to the question I posed is; I'm afraid not. The US Government has tended in recent administrations to take us on this side of the pond somewhat for granted, and tends to act in somewhat overbearing manner towards us. This breeds resentment. The so-called "Special Relationship" has become very one-sided, i.e. US shouts "jump", UK asks "How high sir?" It gets embarrassing and humiliating to feel regarded like that, friends shouldn't be afraid to say "no" from time to time. The American people are fine people, it's just that you've elected some stinky governments lately (and we've elected some piss poor ones too), and the latest is the worst of all.

 

Other things that they discussed was just about how they met American tourists in Europe and how the person was arrogant and made fun of Europe because European countries compare in size to individual states of the US.

 

It just has to do with the fact that a lot of Americans are unfortunately very ignorant and believe that the Union is invincible and that every other nation is a satellite country of the USA. I had a friend at school that made a comment like that, and I almost felt like slapping him across the head for that idiotic statement. :rolleyes:

 

 

PS: I'm American myself. Everyone worth their salt knows that not all Americans are the idiotic bastards that are becoming the icon of the average American.

[Guy]

It's fine as long as it's not serious. 90% of the people that make American jokes don't actually hate Americans.

 

And it should be socially acceptable to make fun of us as long as it's still ok for us to make fun of people from the middle east.

its more of a joke when americans are made fun of. i'm assuming that you making fun of middle easterns is not so funny. nice.

 

I know the reason.

 

I played some Xbox LIVE today aaaand it's because of Xbox LIVE. The Americans on there swear way too much and generally act like buffoons.

 

im going to 100% agree with you there. most of the shouting in my ear on xbox live is from americans swearing at each other. i'm not being racist, its just a fact :ohnoes:

[Romy]

^Not really. If someone of African descent were to say someone called them the 'n' word, no question asked the person accused would go straight to be disciplined and what have you. After being a sand *guess what word* and having my intelligence belitted for 2yrs by the same kid, I reported him to guidance cuz it was getting annoying. I almost got suspended because he cried and told them that I bullied him and it was in his own aggravation that he called me that, and he actually got away with it. Now, other then the fact that I'm shorter, thinner, lighter then this kid as well as believe physical violence is a last resort, and I don't have even a demerit on my record I was still almost declared the person at fault. However, freshmen year someone called an African descendant the well known derogatory word and was suspended after being reported.

 

It is the racism in itself for racism defense priority that also provokes people to loath America and makes comments on them, but I don't agree with this two wrongs make a right idea, nonetheless it happens.

 

Plus Americans also sometimes assume and classify people into categories. A natural tendency in American: Middle Eastern=Speaks Arabic=Muslim. A good example of skipping common sense and listening to racial stereotype, seeing as how there's a 4:1 chance that a Middle Easterner in the USA is Christian/nonreligious.

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Which is just an example of one racial assumption that occurs in the US against commonly obtainable fact, out of probably many. But the reason why this incorrect presumption occurs? Because as I said in previous post, it doesn't matter if you offend anymore not under the American priority of racial defense.

 

I never said it's not tolerated at all, only that it's less tolerated.

[Orpheus]

It's fine as long as it's not serious. 90% of the people that make American jokes don't actually hate Americans.

 

And it should be socially acceptable to make fun of us as long as it's still ok for us to make fun of people from the middle east.

its more of a joke when americans are made fun of. i'm assuming that you making fun of middle easterns is not so funny. nice.

 

I know the reason.

 

I played some Xbox LIVE today aaaand it's because of Xbox LIVE. The Americans on there swear way too much and generally act like buffoons.

 

im going to 100% agree with you there. most of the shouting in my ear on xbox live is from americans swearing at each other. i'm not being racist, its just a fact :ohnoes:

 

Xbox LIVE is a cesspit. Very few people there don't swear like buffoons.

 

 

Use this chart, and you should be good to go.

[fakeitormakeit2]

^Not really. If someone of African descent were to say someone called them the 'n' word, no question asked the person accused would go straight to be disciplined and what have you. After being a sand *guess what word* and having my intelligence belitted for 2yrs by the same kid, I reported him to guidance cuz it was getting annoying. I almost got suspended because he cried and told them that I bullied him and it was in his own aggravation that he called me that, and he actually got away with it. Now, other then the fact that I'm shorter, thinner, lighter then this kid as well as believe physical violence is a last resort, and I don't have even a demerit on my record I was still almost declared the person at fault. However, freshmen year someone called an African descendant the well known derogatory word and was suspended after being reported.

 

It is the racism in itself for racism defense priority that also provokes people to loath America and makes comments on them, but I don't agree with this two wrongs make a right idea, nonetheless it happens.

 

Plus Americans also sometimes assume and classify people into categories. A natural tendency in American: Middle Eastern=Speaks Arabic=Muslim. A good example of skipping common sense and listening to racial stereotype, seeing as how there's a 4:1 chance that a Middle Easterner in the USA is Christian/nonreligious.

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Which is just an example of one racial assumption that occurs in the US against commonly obtainable fact, out of probably many. But the reason why this incorrect presumption occurs? Because as I said in previous post, it doesn't matter if you offend anymore not under the American priority of racial defense.

 

I never said it's not tolerated at all, only that it's less tolerated.

 

On the contrary, Americans didn't even really know what an Arab (over-exaggeration to make a point) was til 9/11. There has been countless articles on how discrimination of Arabs since then has fluxed.

 

But disregard the articles. Next time people asks your race just say that you're an Iraqi or Palestinian or some Arab, and see the response.

[NotoriousPSC]

^Not really. If someone of African descent were to say someone called them the 'n' word, no question asked the person accused would go straight to be disciplined and what have you. After being a sand *guess what word* and having my intelligence belitted for 2yrs by the same kid, I reported him to guidance cuz it was getting annoying. I almost got suspended because he cried and told them that I bullied him and it was in his own aggravation that he called me that, and he actually got away with it. Now, other then the fact that I'm shorter, thinner, lighter then this kid as well as believe physical violence is a last resort, and I don't have even a demerit on my record I was still almost declared the person at fault. However, freshmen year someone called an African descendant the well known derogatory word and was suspended after being reported.

 

It is the racism in itself for racism defense priority that also provokes people to loath America and makes comments on them, but I don't agree with this two wrongs make a right idea, nonetheless it happens.

 

Plus Americans also sometimes assume and classify people into categories. A natural tendency in American: Middle Eastern=Speaks Arabic=Muslim. A good example of skipping common sense and listening to racial stereotype, seeing as how there's a 4:1 chance that a Middle Easterner in the USA is Christian/nonreligious.

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Which is just an example of one racial assumption that occurs in the US against commonly obtainable fact, out of probably many. But the reason why this incorrect presumption occurs? Because as I said in previous post, it doesn't matter if you offend anymore not under the American priority of racial defense.

 

I never said it's not tolerated at all, only that it's less tolerated.

 

On the contrary, Americans didn't even really know what an Arab (over-exaggeration to make a point) was til 9/11. There has been countless articles on how discrimination of Arabs since then has fluxed.

 

But disregard the articles. Next time people asks your race just say that you're an Iraqi or Palestinian or some Arab, and see the response.

 

 

I was only in 5th grade (11 yrs old) on 9/11, but you have to understand that after that day a lot of people's only knowledge of the middle east came from those attacks. Its infuriating, that so many Americans don't get it, but not all of them are like that.

[Romy]

^Not really. If someone of African descent were to say someone called them the 'n' word, no question asked the person accused would go straight to be disciplined and what have you. After being a sand *guess what word* and having my intelligence belitted for 2yrs by the same kid, I reported him to guidance cuz it was getting annoying. I almost got suspended because he cried and told them that I bullied him and it was in his own aggravation that he called me that, and he actually got away with it. Now, other then the fact that I'm shorter, thinner, lighter then this kid as well as believe physical violence is a last resort, and I don't have even a demerit on my record I was still almost declared the person at fault. However, freshmen year someone called an African descendant the well known derogatory word and was suspended after being reported.

 

It is the racism in itself for racism defense priority that also provokes people to loath America and makes comments on them, but I don't agree with this two wrongs make a right idea, nonetheless it happens.

 

Plus Americans also sometimes assume and classify people into categories. A natural tendency in American: Middle Eastern=Speaks Arabic=Muslim. A good example of skipping common sense and listening to racial stereotype, seeing as how there's a 4:1 chance that a Middle Easterner in the USA is Christian/nonreligious.

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Which is just an example of one racial assumption that occurs in the US against commonly obtainable fact, out of probably many. But the reason why this incorrect presumption occurs? Because as I said in previous post, it doesn't matter if you offend anymore not under the American priority of racial defense.

 

I never said it's not tolerated at all, only that it's less tolerated.

 

On the contrary, Americans didn't even really know what an Arab (over-exaggeration to make a point) was til 9/11. There has been countless articles on how discrimination of Arabs since then has fluxed.

 

But disregard the articles. Next time people asks your race just say that you're an Iraqi or Palestinian or some Arab, and see the response.

 

 

(I suggest first reading this without paying attention to what's written in parentheses) I trust that if someone were to make a racist comment on the following: Jews, Muslims, Arabs, blacks, or any other "race" (you have no idea how much I despise the term, but for the sake of simplicity, there it is...) that was or still is "considered" (for the lack of a better word) inferior (as sad as it may be), then that comment would, at most social cycles, be frowned upon.

 

I also trust that if someone were to make a racist comment on Americans, he'd probably get laughs (if the comment is in the form of a joke) or not be paid much attention to (if in a different form).

 

 

 

The point is, that although I certainly agree that for some dumb reason the "races" mentioned in the first 3 lines are looked down for by many, racism towards them is much less tolerated (or atleast, racism in its' spoken form).

[stan18]

It is not what people say that is racist, it is the context. I know several African kids at my school who say "What up [racist term]'" Is that racist? No.

 

(lol at censor)

 

This is true. A question I hear a lot is, "if they can say the N word, why can't I?". And this generally comes from whites. The thing that bothers me is that these people have this sense that they're entitled to the right to call anyone they want the N word. But thats contrasted by the fact that there are white people who can call a black person the N word without an issue.

 

The reason the N word can be thrown around in a community while someone not involved in the community can't is because the members of that community use it amongst themselves as a term of endearment. The word itself isn't attached to black people (because some people don't use it), its more of a lifestyle thing, lower class, poor education systems, etc. It acknowledges that others understand it. For some rich white guy to come in and complain that he is entitled to that right without earning it or understanding it is insulting and defines the term "racist"

 

For the reader's sake, the definition of racism is any system intended to put down minorities, or keep a dominant majority dominant. The white man above lives in a system where everything caters to him. A joke that a lot of college students say when the issue of racism comes up and they think its silly or overblown is, "Why isn't there a white club? Isn't that racist??" My answer to that is, "there already is one, its called ____ University", or whatever university it is. The point is that, whether a white person acknowledges it or not, a white majority place is going to be catered to white people. When something isn't catered to them anymore, it seems weird, because they're used to not being questioned about "where you really come from" or how much financial aid they're on. When something isn't given right to them, such as the right to call someone else the N word, they find it unfair. Its not unfair, they just haven't earned it

 

If thats too confusing to you, then being called the N word by some random white guy if you were black is like having some random person hear some inside joke amongst your friends and try to act like they have the right to use that joke amongst you.

 

It is not what people say that is racist, it is the context. I know several African kids at my school who say "What up [racist term]'" Is that racist? No.

 

(lol at censor)

 

 

If you say the same back to the kids at my school in the same way as a friendly greeting, they get extremely serious about it they act very offended about it and how "You aren't allowed to use our word".

 

Why would you use it as a friendly greeting in the first place? Just because you can?

 

I think generalizations are fine if there is truth behind them.

 

I hear this a lot. "its not harassment because its true", "I only mentioned the stereotype because its true for him/her", "i'm not being mean, I'm just stating fact". The issue has never been whether or not a statement was true. It was why that statement was said in the first place. The excuse of "its okay because its true" is a front to hide your intention of getting that point across. That, of course, doesn't even touch upon whether or not its true.

 

Example: Elementary school student gets called into principle's office for making fun of a fellow student because he is overweight. His reasoning? "because he is". Yes, I chose an example from an elementary school student for a reason.

 

 

Personally me and my friends make racist jokes, or jokes about countries all the time. That includes jokes about our nationalities and our countries. I think the problem isn't that it's "wrong" but that people just take things like this too seriously, which in the end helps no one. At least by looking at these things as a joke, people wouldn't be offended by them and they would sooner be disregarded. Eventually these things mean nothing to you, but when people take them seriously they give those things a meaning, even if they want those things to be gone.

 

I disagree with this logic. A former philosophy teacher called this the "quitter logic" - it starts with them and ends with you. Things aren't meaningful because you make them meaningful, they are meaningful because they had some meaning some point in history (this does not say it ever lost it). That meaning was perpetuated by some other force. So trying to not giving it meaning acknowledges its meaning. But the important part is that it happens repeatedly - every time you hear some negative word about your race, you know that it was said with some meaning before and is still being said, and that you have to change it yourself. So every time you tell yourself it doesn't mean anything, you acknowledge that it does.

 

The point is that because the meaning started with some factor that you did not control, and in order to control it you have to acknowledge it, it will never go away unless the source does.

 

Just words, bro. Don't get so insulted. [bleep]ing around with other people is what makes the world go round.

 

They're more than just words. Its like hearing someone say, "Help me", or, "I'm hungry", or, "You look nice today", and interpreting it as jibberish. It has meaning because it has context. So no, they're not just words

 

The only places I hear "rasism" to americans is on X-Box live, and in school.

But, So what?

Almost every nationality has a sterotype, Canadians say Eh alot, live in Igloos, and ride polar bears to school, Middile eastern guys blow things up, germans are evil, ectII

NONE OF THEM ARE TRUE

1% of canada ride polar bears to school

0.0001% of middle eastern peps blow themselves up

and 0% of germans are still nazis

Don't take offense to people calling americans fat. I admit, some are, but in the whole, its all about having an insult after your [cabbage] gets kicked or you kick someones [cabbage] on MW2

 

In the end, the americans ARE the ones with all the nukes.... soooo......

Lets keep the fighting down, before we go fallout 3 on ourselfs :P

 

The issue isn't that they're not true. Its that you need to explain that they're not true. While most of them are seemingly harmless, stereotypes that put expectations upon children growing up are unhealthy. And stereotypes that invoke fear (esp. those of religion) cause hate, even to those who try to acknowledge they are not true.

 

Honestly racism should never, ever be accepted. now lets define racism

 

rac⋅ism  [rey-siz-uhm]

noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

 

So if you say anything with hate, it seems to me that it's racist. If you're just kidding around, I think it's fine. Honestly, I wholeheartedly agree with the whole Americans are Fat stereotype, because honestly it's kind of true. Seriously the seniors of my high school my freshman year were pretty healthy looking, and the freshman my senior year were about...75% chubby. So america it seems is getting bigger and bigger.

 

And seriously, why does it matter if we call ourselves Americans? It's where we live...and honestly we should totally take over Canada and Mexico, cause I'm sick of hearing of this illegal immigration, and that way they'd all be citizens, and they'd all be where they want to :P

 

See now, only a true jack [wagon] would embarrass himself with being offended with that statement, it wasn't racist at all because I don't hate mexicans or canadians. And I actually EXPECT people to make fun of me and everything about me, makes life easier.

 

And that yogurt joke was hilarious!!! so freakin true :P

 

BTW you can't spell embarrassed with out [wagon], just like you won't be embarrassed unless you make yourself look like an [wagon] >.<

 

I agree. The issue with racism isn't with the words themselves, but with context. Things said in different scenarios influence people in different ways.

 

Well consider why racism is racist...The white man is offended by other white men calling black men a name that other black men call the black men. The white men would much prefer the other white men to call the black men by the name that the white man calls the black men.

Comparatively the black man calls the white man by the name that they so chose without this complex nightmare.

 

 

Its due to the fact that white men, generally, don't see the need to protect other white men because they believe that white men can look after themselves. Where as minority groups, who are 'obvouisly inferior', need the white men to protect them.

It is only when the white men(or whichever group is dominant...or sees itself as dominant) becomes offended by it that it becomes racist, in truth the minority group has very little say in whether or not they find it offensive.

 

 

Racism isn't half as Racist as thinking you need to protect other races because they can't do it themselves....

 

 

(That and they make a mockery of the English Language with Zees where the should be Zeds, Z where the should be S, nothing where the should be U...and then just inventing words when they can't think, or can't be bothered to think, of an adjective, verb or connecting word....eg:

Incentivication - As opposed to 'To give an incentive')

 

I don't see that as white men being overly sensitive as much as people just trying to be respectful of each other

[Zierro]

 

I think generalizations are fine if there is truth behind them.

 

I hear this a lot. "its not harassment because its true", "I only mentioned the stereotype because its true for him/her", "i'm not being mean, I'm just stating fact". The issue has never been whether or not a statement was true. It was why that statement was said in the first place. The excuse of "its okay because its true" is a front to hide your intention of getting that point across. That, of course, doesn't even touch upon whether or not its true.

 

Example: Elementary school student gets called into principle's office for making fun of a fellow student because he is overweight. His reasoning? "because he is". Yes, I chose an example from an elementary school student for a reason.

 

While I do believe it is fine to view a certain type of people a certain way, so long as you have the scientific evidence for it, I don't think it's right to treat them all a certain way. A generalization is just merely a generalization - it does not imply that every person of that certain type is a certain way. Only that they generally are. Which means harassing someone just for being a certain race is not fine.

 

General: of, pertaining to, or true of such persons or things in the main, with possible exceptions; common to most; prevalent; usual: the general mood of the people.

 

So my point is that if you see a lion, it is fine to be scared and cautious because there's a good possibility it could attack you (it is fine to view them a certain way), but it's wrong to shoot it because you assumed it would attack you (it is wrong to treat them a certain way, until they prove that they are that way).

 

It's the difference between your thoughts and your actions.

[mixand]

All I can say iis regarding "it shouldn't be allowed" is

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -- François-Marie Arouet