War

[SeanyTheSailor]

So I really decided to make this thread to see what people think.

 

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

 

Is war ever the answer?

 

And please (this goes for both sides) don't just scream your opinion, reason and present logic.

 

Personally I don't think mankind will ever be rid of war, combat is to ingrained in our life/ world. I don't think it is either good or bad, just something that happens. I believe that for the most part the soldiers who fight wars are good people who are fighting for what they believe (on both sides) and I hope to stand among them one day. I think war is an answer, albeit a messy one, but it will solve an issue.

[Iamdan]

imo war is a necessary evil. If we don't fight then we don't know how to fight, which leaves us weak and vulnerable to invasion. Lots of people on the earth, it's not like every single one will agree to hold hands and sing songs.

[Amaranth_GTO]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

I highly doubt it. As you said, combat and violence seems to be natural for us, and there will not always be a peaceful way to resolve things.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

I think war is a necessary evil. It would be great to not have many soldiers die, but think of all the technological and other benefits that have come because of wars.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

The ones on my side are great, the ones on the other are horrible. I kid, I kid. I think it's great that they are willing to die for their beliefs and for their country.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Sometimes.

[SeanyTheSailor]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

I highly doubt it. As you said, combat and violence seems to be natural for us, and there will not always be a peaceful way to resolve things.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

I think war is a necessary evil. It would be great to not have many soldiers die, but think of all the technological and other benefits that have come because of wars.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

The ones on my side are great, the ones on the other are horrible. I kid, I kid. I think it's great that they are willing to die for their beliefs and for their country.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Sometimes.

When would you say war is the answer? Out of curiosity

 

 

It's kinda funny every time I post a topic online I am surprised by how many people agree with the views that you never hear about. I wonder on how many issues my view of the balance of opinions is distorted.

[Amaranth_GTO]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

I highly doubt it. As you said, combat and violence seems to be natural for us, and there will not always be a peaceful way to resolve things.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

I think war is a necessary evil. It would be great to not have many soldiers die, but think of all the technological and other benefits that have come because of wars.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

The ones on my side are great, the ones on the other are horrible. I kid, I kid. I think it's great that they are willing to die for their beliefs and for their country.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Sometimes.

When would you say war is the answer? Out of curiosity

 

 

It's kinda funny every time I post a topic online I am surprised by how many people agree with the views that you never hear about. I wonder on how many issues my view of the balance of opinions is distorted.

Well when an unstable, aggressive government regime takes over a country, and are posing a very serious threat, and when you ask them to resolve it peacefully and they just give you the finger. Then, I'd say going to war is justified rather than just waiting for them to invade. For example, 1930-1940's Germany. Nazi regime takes over, starts building a large military, everyone says stop building a military. They don't stop. Countries say well fine, you can have the military but don't use it. German troops invade Poland. I think that's a fine time to go to war, because it's pretty obvious at that point that peaceful negotiation isn't going to work.

[Dizzle229]

War is a neccessary evil, as was said. It will ALWAYS be there, and it's been there since one ape slapped another over a shiny pebble. As for individual soldiers, many are good people fighting for their cause, and in some countries, because they're government made the choice for them. I believe in Israel you have to serve in the IDF for a certain number of years, but I could be wrong.

 

Actually, isn't an old user, dragoonson, off on a mandatory service tour?

[SeanyTheSailor]

War is a neccessary evil, as was said. It will ALWAYS be there, and it's been there since one ape slapped another over a shiny pebble. As for individual soldiers, many are good people fighting for their cause, and in some countries, because they're government made the choice for them. I believe in Israel you have to serve in the IDF for a certain number of years, but I could be wrong.

 

Actually, isn't an old user, dragoonson, off on a mandatory service tour?

I think your right about Israel except if you go to like Torah school (or whatever they might call it) you're exempt.

[Amaranth_GTO]

Yeah I know Israel has mandatory service. A Russian friend of mine says they have mandatory service in Russia too. I know in the USA all males have to apply for selective service, but no mandatory military service (unless there's a draft)

[Nero]

Too many nations, cultures, and ideals exist on Earth. The only way to expand them is to take someone's elses share.

 

Besides, war is an impossible thing to measure. Is war bad? It can be. Is it good? Sometimes. Honestly, if we didn't have warfare we'd probably still be in the stone age, since warfare is the driving force behind 90% (made up statistic) of the world's technology. The real debate comes up with nuclear weapons, when we get the power to actually force people back into the stone age.

[fakeitormakeit2]

First of all there is no such thing as a necessary evil. Either you need it or you don't. War, when used properly is a device of peace. War, when used wrongly, is a device of greed.

 

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

No. There will always be those who want more and the only way to seize it is through war. Humans have an aggressive nature. There are also those who think they are freeing others by waging war. Think of it this way, we could have all just kept giving Hitler what he wanted and let him take over the world and "cleanse" us, or we (the world other then Nazi Germany and allies) could have waged war and stopped him, which we did.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

As I said, it depends how you use it.

It is just like money. You can use money to help people, or you can use it to buy drugs and snort cocaine all day.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

Once a soldier has VOLUNTARILY joined a military, they are to do as commanded since they by joining sacrificed their own free will to serve under the instructions of their superiors. If they voluntarily joined an evil cause, i.e. the Nazis, then they are just as evil as Hitler, if not worse because they agreed to bear the burden. If they thought by joining Hitler, they would somehow save the world from destruction and help everyone, then they were not evil but in fact good.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Yes. For instance the Maronites in Lebanon have been there for the last two millennia, on and off having it declared an autonomous region. The Muslims think they can just come in and take over. After 1100yrs of the Maronites trying to use diplomacy and the Muslims having complete resolve to take over with any force necessary, the Maronites have all right to stomp out any opposition. That is an extreme example. Sometimes people jump to war too quickly as an answer, or for a means to acquire what we want, which is evil since our reasoning is based on greed.

[Lenticular_J]

We're animals that are far better at kicking [wagon] than other [kitty] animals. Nice claws, lion - how's an RPG sound?

 

War is a primary changer in our world. And the world always needs change.

[champion]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

No.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

Neither.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

Neither.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Sometimes.

 

THE END

[magekillr]

War can be justified, in my opinion, for the following things:

 

1.) Mass violence and human catastrophe, such as to prevent or stop a genocide.

 

2.) In self-defense.

 

3.) If another country has intervened already, and you're trying to balance the scale; the Spanish Civil War is an example of this.

 

4.) Pre-emptive war. This should not be confused with preventive war. The Iraq War was a preventive war. A pre-emptive war would be if Canada lined its troops on the border, ready to invade America, and if America started bombing Canada first.

 

However, just because one of these four may JUSTIFY a war, it doesn't mean that we should actually engage in it. Number 3 in particular is very important to note, because following that to the dime is what led to World War I. So just as I said, even if it's justified, it doesn't mean it should happen.

[Furah]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

No, as long as 2 people are alive someone is going to want someone dead.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

A necessity.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

Neither.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Yes.

[Pinkbullet3]

Tbh, man will never be rid of anything, save for dinosaurs.

[The_Gabe]

The world will be boring without war.

[i_love_burritos]

The world will be boring without war.

Yeah, so true.

 

Just kickin' back on the West Bank with a bucket of popcorn and my GameBoy with Castlevania.

 

:thumbup:

[Ouchy]

If there wasn't wars then none of us would be where we are now.

[Romy]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

I highly doubt it. As you said, combat and violence seems to be natural for us, and there will not always be a peaceful way to resolve things.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

I think war is a necessary evil. It would be great to not have many soldiers die, but think of all the technological and other benefits that have come because of wars.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

The ones on my side are great, the ones on the other are horrible. I kid, I kid. I think it's great that they are willing to die for their beliefs and for their country.

 

Is war ever the answer?

Sometimes.

When would you say war is the answer? Out of curiosity

 

 

It's kinda funny every time I post a topic online I am surprised by how many people agree with the views that you never hear about. I wonder on how many issues my view of the balance of opinions is distorted.

Well when an unstable, aggressive government regime takes over a country, and are posing a very serious threat, and when you ask them to resolve it peacefully and they just give you the finger. Then, I'd say going to war is justified rather than just waiting for them to invade. For example, 1930-1940's Germany. Nazi regime takes over, starts building a large military, everyone says stop building a military. They don't stop. Countries say well fine, you can have the military but don't use it. German troops invade Poland. I think that's a fine time to go to war, because it's pretty obvious at that point that peaceful negotiation isn't going to work.

 

 

It wasn't that obvious at the time, most actualy thought they're doing a great thing by not going to war (such as Neville Chamberline and his certaincy of the "Peace" he had achieved).

[Romy]

War is a neccessary evil, as was said. It will ALWAYS be there, and it's been there since one ape slapped another over a shiny pebble. As for individual soldiers, many are good people fighting for their cause, and in some countries, because they're government made the choice for them. I believe in Israel you have to serve in the IDF for a certain number of years, but I could be wrong.

 

Actually, isn't an old user, dragoonson, off on a mandatory service tour?

I think your right about Israel except if you go to like Torah school (or whatever they might call it) you're exempt.

 

Yeah, 3 years for guys, 2 for girls.

 

And if you're in a "Yeshiva", or are overweight/underweight or are having mental and/or phsysical problems that prevent proper activity, then you can't join the army.

 

If you're a member of a bereaved family (as in, a close relative have died during and because of his/her Military Service) you can decide not to join the army.

[Lenin64]

Yea, war is awesome. Gives you something to watch on the news.

 

I kid, but war is like science; there's a lot of innovations but really, many of them are only good for advancing the field itself. Like string theory and RPGs. Of course, this isn't true for all of them-laser technologies and assembly lines (which incidentally kind of run together)-but there's some there. Not that's a bad thing, of course. I pretty much agree with everyone else on this, war is necessary sometimes and good/bad is pretty obscure and relative. Just like science!

[stevepole]

So I really decided to make this thread to see what people think.

 

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

No, I don't believe that mankind will ever rid the world of war as long as we have something to fight over and have different beliefs.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

Neither, war has its pluses and negative.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

Every soldier fights for different reasons.

 

Is war ever the answer?

In a perfect world, war is not the answer, but we all know that this is not a perfect world.

[RexMilotic]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

Never. If we ever had a single competent ruler, then we could temporarily end war until that person is weakened and or dead, in which case a race for power would arise.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

Neither, Right/Wrong don't exist.

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

 

Same as previous answer..

Is war ever the answer?

 

Yes, because there needs to be someone to rule (I personally would enjoy it).

[Perakp]

Yeah I know Israel has mandatory service. A Russian friend of mine says they have mandatory service in Russia too. I know in the USA all males have to apply for selective service, but no mandatory military service (unless there's a draft)

6 months of mandatory service in Finland, or 12 if you are good or want to do non-military-service.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces

 

 

If they take our jerbs we must war them

[obfuscator]

Will mankind ever be rid of war?

 

No. Mankind is not perfect. The entire world will never see eye to eye - and as long as there are differences there will be war.

 

Is war good/bad/neither?

 

War is bad. The death itself makes war a terrible occurence. The problem is that as long as humans remain in this imperfect world it can often be a necessary evil.

 

 

Are the soldiers who fight war good/bad/neither?

 

Soldiers do their job. There is a fine line though - for example I consider a soldier who tortures a prisoner bad, same as summary executions or unwarranted violence/disrespect for human life. But if they are just doing their job, they are brave and good to do it.

 

Is war ever the answer?

 

Absolutely. There are times in which way of life is threatened, when injustice prevails, when self preservation must take over and then yes, war is sometimes the only option.