This is an extreme example, but you seem to be saying that the life of someone like Charlie Manson is worth the same as amy random person chosen out of a crowd.

 

Tbh, one life is not equal to another.

 

Who says that random person is not a murder, rapist or paedophile?

 

Anyway, this has progressed into extreme scenarios in which it seems murder is the only choice. As long as we have laws against it, murder cannot be justified.

Tell me this then Dan.

 

Why would we attempt to prevent those who make death threats? And even in cases arrange for help to figure out what makes them want to kill?

Because here, the majority believe killing is bad.

 

Morals may be relative, but we live in a society with laws we should follow, which means I can't go out and kill some guy because in my mind I have a justified reason. Tell me how society would view me then.

 

That's the law though. Just because something is against the law, it doesn't mean it is necessarily bad. It's usually 'bad' in that particular culture because it the belief of the majority, but that doesn't mean anything.

War seems like a pretty good justification for killing, actually.

Me to an [wagon] cop last night:

I know you're hated by the scum of the country, but you knew it would come with the job. I know you get called a pig after booking a drunk driver, and you scrape somebody off the road while people in cars slow down to take pictures. But if it happens enough times and you let it get to you, if you're not careful you can end up hating the world and taking it out on us. No matter how hard you push the world, it will always push back harder.

 

I'm just proud that I managed to come up with that on the spot while drunk.

Me to an [wagon] cop last night:

I know you're hated by the scum of the country, but you knew it would come with the job. I know you get called a pig after booking a drunk driver, and you scrape somebody off the road while people in cars slow down to take pictures. But if it happens enough times and you let it get to you, if you're not careful you can end up hating the world and taking it out on us. No matter how hard you push the world, it will always push back harder.

 

I'm just proud that I managed to come up with that on the spot while drunk.

That's a good speech haha. I think the worst thing I've said to a cop when I was drunk is "You think you're [bleep]ing Batman or something driving around in that patrol car?" When he said "yes" back to me with a straight face I was speechless and everyone had a good laugh at me.

Me to an [wagon] cop last night:

I know you're hated by the scum of the country, but you knew it would come with the job. I know you get called a pig after booking a drunk driver, and you scrape somebody off the road while people in cars slow down to take pictures. But if it happens enough times and you let it get to you, if you're not careful you can end up hating the world and taking it out on us. No matter how hard you push the world, it will always push back harder.

 

I'm just proud that I managed to come up with that on the spot while drunk.

 

 

Made slightly less poignant by you vomiting all over his shoes. :3

 

Or trying to hug him and getting tazed.

 

But seriously, that's pretty cool. Esp. because you were drunk.

So really, you'd murder for some reason you believed was right?

 

That really depends on how right it is.

 

 

My claim is, that certain circumstances justify murder. As simple as that.

Me to an [wagon] cop last night:

I know you're hated by the scum of the country, but you knew it would come with the job. I know you get called a pig after booking a drunk driver, and you scrape somebody off the road while people in cars slow down to take pictures. But if it happens enough times and you let it get to you, if you're not careful you can end up hating the world and taking it out on us. No matter how hard you push the world, it will always push back harder.

 

I'm just proud that I managed to come up with that on the spot while drunk.

That's a good speech haha. I think the worst thing I've said to a cop when I was drunk is "You think you're [bleep]ing Batman or something driving around in that patrol car?" When he said "yes" back to me with a straight face I was speechless and everyone had a good laugh at me.

siggied :thumbup:

"Nvere argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience"

 

Also

"you must be drunk, you've gone all blurry"

Me to an [wagon] cop last night:

I know you're hated by the scum of the country, but you knew it would come with the job. I know you get called a pig after booking a drunk driver, and you scrape somebody off the road while people in cars slow down to take pictures. But if it happens enough times and you let it get to you, if you're not careful you can end up hating the world and taking it out on us. No matter how hard you push the world, it will always push back harder.

 

I'm just proud that I managed to come up with that on the spot while drunk.

 

 

Made slightly less poignant by you vomiting all over his shoes. :3

 

Or trying to hug him and getting tazed.

 

But seriously, that's pretty cool. Esp. because you were drunk.

 

Heh, nah I didn't puke on him or anything. It's the cop I talked about here

 

http://forum.tip.it/topic/195466-today/page__st__11760

 

Things got pretty heated.. He was egging my mate to take a swing at him, and my speech ended up shutting him up. He just said he would be back in uniform which he never was.

The first time I read it, your speech made lots of sense.

 

 

After 2-3 more times, it no longer does :blink: ...

"Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what. No matter ... where. Or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or ... or where you've been ... ever. For any reason, whatsoever.

"So this is how democracy dies. To thunderouse applause"- Padmae? (sp?)

 

 

"I am surrounded by priests who repeat incessantly that their kingdom is not of this world, and yet they lay their hands on everything they can get." -- Napoleon Bonaparte

"Time may heal everything, but so do band-aids. Doesn't make it hurt any less." - Unknown.

 

"Almost only counts in horseshoes and grenades."

 

"Second place is only the first person to lose." - My brother. (lol)

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

 

To which the proper response is: lolwut

The first time I read it, your speech made lots of sense.

 

 

After 2-3 more times, it no longer does :blink: ...

 

He was being an [wagon] and also telling us that he knows we think he's a pig etc.

 

I meant that if he lets the stress of the job get to him and turn him into an [wagon] completely, it's going to harm him more than he can harm anyone else.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

 

To which the proper response is: lolwut

Incorrect. The proper response is:

 

You’ve got to be kidding me. I’ve been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It’s just common sense.

 

--

 

Anyways, bonus points if you can say the first part of the exchange out loud without breaking into laughter.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Gichin Funakoshi - "Do not think you have to win. Think, rather, that you do not have to lose."

 

Oscar Wilde - "Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow." - I'm not quite sure which way to interpret this but I like it.

 

 

Oscar Wilde quotations are full of win. :thumbup:

"Whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and tyrant, and I declare him my enemy." ~ Proudhon, 1849

 

"Theres no underestimating the intelligence of the American public." ~?

 

"As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents." - George Orwell

 

"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." - George Orwell

 

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." ~Christopher Hitchens

"We lost a lot of good men out there." - Wedding Crashers

"We lost a lot of good men out there." - Wedding Crashers

 

For anyone who didn't watch it... that's extremely out of context XD...

A few...

 

"Mess With The Best Die Like The Rest."

 

"Only the Strong Survive."

 

"Can't beat them, join them."

"SSDD". Same [cabbage], different day. Kinda summarizes most of schooling. Some good education to be had, but a lot is pretty repetitive.

"Son, you might loose your house, you might loose your women, you might loose you life, but DO NOT loose your honour" - My grandpa