The Money Cap

[prophetable]

In my humble and noobish opinion...

 

Would it be possible and perhaps more feasible to devalue everything in the game and make the gp worth more? Maybe bring into the game other currency units... bronze, silver, gold, platnum? coins then the value of the coins could compensate for the max value. So a platnum could be = 100gp and 1000sp and 10000bp etc.

 

What thinkest thou?

[Dire_Wolf]

Players who are obsessed with coins in the game are fools. Disagree? Your obsessed with coins? Why not go do that in real life? Your a loser? Right....

[AngraMania]

Whats so hard about trading in coins for spirit shards? You can buy 62.5 mil worth of shards with 2 clicks wherever they are sold. And If you want to exchange them back into coins all you have to do is go to a pet shop and use the sell-all option.

[Bladewing]

 

1 gold ingot = 100,000 coins. You can buy them at the Grand exchange from one of those guys sitting around the GE. Fixes the GP problem and the problem of useless NPCs at the same time.

 

When trading items on the GE, you can opt to have sales be entirely GP or ingots with the remainder in GP.

[ghjkl]

You cannot sell spirit shards.

[AngraMania]

You cannot sell spirit shards.

 

I take it you never been to a pet shop? The person in there has a sell-all option for spirit shards.

[ghjkl]

You cannot sell spirit shards.

 

I take it you never been to a pet shop? The person in there has a sell-all option.

O-0 I never knew that. Still I'd rather see some other way to deal with this than have such a dirty fix Jagex didn't even intend to do.

[Kiriyama]

You cannot sell spirit shards.

 

I take it you never been to a pet shop? The person in there has a sell-all option for spirit shards.

 

I take it you haven't used it?

 

You can only sell a max of 50k per transaction, so you'd be at it a damn while if you have a big pile.

[yuriqiu]

You cannot sell spirit shards.

 

I take it you never been to a pet shop? The person in there has a sell-all option.

O-0 I never knew that. Still I'd rather see some other way to deal with this than have such a dirty fix Jagex didn't even intend to do.

It sells 50k at a time. I made the horrible mistake of buying 33m Spirit shards because I was too lazy to calc how many I'd need for 99 and had to stay there clicking for around 15 minutes to sell all the extras after 99.

[xpx]

It's not just about the top end players tbh, it's about the amount of money in game nowadays, and it is everincreasing. I remember times when dragon med helms, lava battlestaves and dragon squares cost much more than some partyhats, but now with all this money in game, you are not able to complete some trades without using multiple piles of cash. Every raw material has atleast gone up 150% in the last 5 years and some even upwards of 1000% meaning that the average cashpile a person owns has gone up somewhere between those percentages too. As of personal experiance, it really is teadious to be worrying about banking money or having to hold some of your cash in items and any coin-pack solution would easily solve these problems for all of us. It's really a quick and easy fix that is dearly needed if keeping in mind the future market of rs.

[PereGrin]

I'm with Den and Qeltar on this, especially since this benefits Clan Manipulators like Cheesy who have that much money, they use Partyhats as mere bank holders. Besides, since when do you need 2b+ for a 200m exp skill? Cooking costs about 6m at 13m exp, 600m = 130m exp, you barely even need 1b for 200m exp.

 

 

Cooking is dirt cheap. Prayer costs 260m for 13m xp, thus it would cost 2600m for 130m xp. We have already past the max cash limit and we have another 70m xp to go.

[jettrider]

I don't think this problem needs to be solved. There are PLENTY of things you can do with spare cash and save it in (example: spirit shards, dragon equipment whose GE price is near its alch price). Carrying piles is an annoyance, but just that.

 

The current rares market doesn't really hurt Jagex and it helps a lot of players. It creates an artificial market to allow players to buy and sell for a profit outside of the GE, which allows players to make money through trading on a freer system. This of course allows RWT, but I guess the volume of people buying above-market items for trade price is so low that Jagex doesn't care.

[Tim]

@Kingjoe - Half of my friend list right now have banks worth around 5bil+, 2/3 is maxxed cash value in bank and with the exception of 10 people everyone has 1.5bil+. My friend list is a mixture of PvM, Skillers, Minigamers (Some who wastes 10m in PvP items/Ice barrages daily at castle wars), PvP (Who uses VLS like a whip) amongst others. The maxxed cash issue is not a problem of the future, it is a problem of the now.

So your friends list is full of players who are in on Manipulation clans with big wads of cash to throw about, no offence but that's what I see in that.

 

Also, If I remember correctly, Java can only support 2.1b digits in a single thread of code (though this was around 2006 mind you), you would have to update ALL PC's with the latest Java (of which some cant support), re-write the ENTIRE coding of every item in runescape JUST for a bunch of Manipulators who have scammed players and broke the rules to have more cash then they already need.

[hkscaper]

I doubt it, with current money making methods without merching. It is possible to make 300m/month with only roughly 3-5 hrs of gameplay each day. 2.14bil can be thus reached in 7 month from a bank with 0gp worth. The stats required to do this is just Soloing GWD/TDs/DKs and/or teaming Corp. We know lvl 110s with a decent mage level can solo DKs. So if this was to keep up, what's to say that in 7 month from now, not every lvl 110+ would have max cash value banks? I'm pretty positive you can make more than 300m/month also with a good enough capital while merching as well. The 110- combat population might be slower, but they skill have PvP, Barrows, Nature Running, amongst other methods to make money at a constant 1m/hr. That is still 90m/month at 3 hrs of playing time each day. Even in F2P, with GOP 5050s you make (Sorry been away from that minigame too long. Sees_All1, if you see this help me correct if I'm wrong) 450k/hr with a lvl 3 account while being practically afk. So F2P Players can make a potential 45m/month at 3 hrs of game time each day. At this rate, you're looking at the RS population reaching maxxed cash without using the most efficient methods in roughly 2 years? What do you do then?

 

How many players actually grind their money making ways for months on end? Most people will get bored of doing the same thing over and over again, be it training skills, making money or even monster hunting. So it's unlikely anyone will get a maxed cash pile in the time period you stated. I'm sure most players won't even get remotely near one maxed pile of cash ever (unless Jagex screws up and makes a way to create large amounts of gp out of nowhere).

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Yes, there are ways to introduce a new form of currency that basically acts as a multiplier (so instead of 2.1B we would have 214T, for 1 ingot = 100K). Do I think it should happen? No. It's not that the change would be game-breaking, I just feel that there are more important things to RS than large piles of cash.

 

That, and it's likely I'd want the bank space more than a few new coin-like items.

[Sir_Squab]

Start a poll asking players the following.

 

"Which would you prefer:

 

A. Being able to get more than 2 billion of an item; or

 

B. Getting an additional 400 bank spaces"

 

See if you can predict the results. ;)

 

Yes, they could kludge something so coins were handled 64-bit and everything else wasn't. This would require changes to nearly every part of the code.

 

Love the poll idea :D

 

Seriously though....2b is enough imo. If you have that much and want something, just spend the damned money. Rare obsessors can just deal with need 10k onyxes for their "wealth."

 

Besides. Money is worthless. It's just a tool use to elevate society from a barter system. Having money just for the sake of having money is stupid, imo. You should have money to afford good stuff.

 

If I had that much money, I'd just do stupid things to burn it lol. Alch Godswords. Do slayer task in PVP armour/weapons....

 

Also, yeah, people who get that much money are kinda in the minority. All that would do is depress most people who read the newspost.

 

I'm with Den and Qeltar on this, especially since this benefits Clan Manipulators like Cheesy who have that much money, they use Partyhats as mere bank holders. Besides, since when do you need 2b+ for a 200m exp skill? Cooking costs about 6m at 13m exp, 600m = 130m exp, you barely even need 1b for 200m exp.

 

 

Cooking is dirt cheap. Prayer costs 260m for 13m xp, thus it would cost 2600m for 130m xp. We have already past the max cash limit and we have another 70m xp to go.

 

You could just, erm, not buy all the bones at once?

 

I GOT IT! RS3!

 

Basically, we increase the max on all items and such all the crazy no-lifers who want 200m in all skills and 50bil there. Lol.

 

Honestly....I probably spend more of my life on RS then I should. I'm no where near people with 5bil bank worth or w/e. Honestly.....chances are they need a life.

 

In any case. I still don't see the point of obsessing for money for moneys sake. Spend it!

[Numismaster]

How come nobody uses the PVP statuettes in large trades? Those are basically condensed cash. They are completely stable and can be redeemed for gp at anytime. I would think that there would be a demand for these items among people with max cash, but I've never seen a trade yet where someone offered to pay with statuettes instead of gp. I believe that they would work great; for example you could purchase a phat for 750M and pay with 100 ancient statuettes and 250M cash. The seller could then redeem the statuettes for gp if he (or she) needed it. If you were to put your money into these, you would NEVER reach the limit (i.e. 2.1 billion ancient statuettes). The only drawback is that few of these statuettes are saved.

[Artemis1330]

It sure would be nice to have this changed, but I doubt it will happen soon. There are easy ways around it however. I myself stock up on certain rares in mass, do the same with d meds. I actually *think* I personally have the largest stock of d meds in game lol. Few friends have 3-6b worth as well.

 

The best way around it is "stocks", which is basically abusing the merch clans while storing gp. Stock up on a few bil of commonly manipulated items and dump on leaders every few months. Profit, store gp, and screw over manipulation leaders all at the same time.

 

When flipping, instead of putting an offer in for (example) 20 DFS, put an offer in for 60. Basically always have max cash in each slot. Honestly, I've never known of someone with multiple max cash piles not being able to store it/complaining about storing it. It's pretty easy to do.

 

Anyway, doubt it will be looked at by Jagex soon.

 

and to all the haters :boohoo:

[dragon312]

It is annoying though that in F2P you can't store that much cash piles in ur GE, as you only have 2 slots, and most of the statues in PVP are sold instantly to the guy who buys them.

[ilovesilvia]

I wonder what those people that have like 500B and spent over 10 years of their lives logged onto RS would do if jagex suddenly decided to cancel the game completely.

[Big_Stingman]

Start a poll asking players the following.

 

"Which would you prefer:

 

A. Being able to get more than 2 billion of an item; or

 

B. Getting an additional 400 bank spaces"

 

See if you can predict the results. ;)

 

Yes, they could kludge something so coins were handled 64-bit and everything else wasn't. This would require changes to nearly every part of the code.

 

Agree. I would like that bank space :smile:

 

Little more on topic, this wouldn't really affect me as I will never have that much of any item lol.