Tip.It Times - 18th July 2010

[ddaanniiellh]

Oh boy... I giggle to think of what the author will feel when attempting Mourning's End's part 2's Agility obstacle. Now THAT'S what I call frustration unless you have 70+ agility...

I agree! I did that quest at 60 Agility. In all, it took me roughly 8 hours to do that quest. <_<

I think I did that quest at the minimum possible agility (I think 50 something), and I swear, I wanted to rip something apart haha.

~Dan

[Andregiant]

This issue has been beaten to death. Rachya expressed an opinion, and SilverTaler took it personnaly. I don't like quests. But that's just me. They are good, I just don't do them. And Rachya! I know what you meant. I liked the article. :)

Edited July 21, 2010 by tripsis
Rather than triple posting, if you have something else that you'd like to say please just edit your original post.

[firebird308]

Oh boy... I giggle to think of what the author will feel when attempting Mourning's End's part 2's Agility obstacle. Now THAT'S what I call frustration unless you have 70+ agility...

I agree! I did that quest at 60 Agility. In all, it took me roughly 8 hours to do that quest. <_<

I think I did that quest at the minimum possible agility (I think 50 something), and I swear, I wanted to rip something apart haha.

~Dan

 

You guys are making me glad I haven't done that quest yet. XD; (I'm waiting until I can store the mourner's outfit in my POH.)

[Vulxai]

 

Is there a point of belittling someone? If you have different opinions, that's fine. Discuss them in a mature manner. Your post was far from mature, and didn't provide any discussion value. Just my two cents from what I've read, so please next time, if you provide no discussion value, and just belittle someone, leave it off the forums.

You call me immature yet you jump in the train and start attacking on me rather than on my points?

 

Just to point out, yes I called you immature because of your points. You said she's not a particularly good writer, and also saying she should improve her posts. Why? Because you like questing, and she doesn't. That's what it comes down to. You couldn't accept that she calls what she has as a "phobia". Are you her? I didn't think so, so you are in no position to tell her if she can call it a phobia, and basically attack her writing. I jumped on no wagon, as that would insinuate that I just insulted you for the simple fact everyone else did. I did not, I simply pointed out the immaturity in your post. You disagree with her opinion? Discuss it, don't bash it. With that being said, I'm no longer going to comment on this matter, or to your posts.

 

OT: See, I rather enjoy quests SOMETIMES. I'm all for a good storyline, but when you have to run around in circles for an hour+ accomplishing little, that gets a little annoying. I don't like PvP, that's just not my thing. I can guarantee any PvPer would completely annihilate me due to the fact I wouldn't know the strategies and such. And Nomad's Requiem kind of destroyed questing for me. Quests shouldn't be that hard to complete (look at my stats, yes it's hard for me, I don't really care if you're maxed out and owned him hard...want a cookie?), they should be challenging for the mind, Nomad's is just...annoying. I mean, it would be good if it were a Boss Monster that you can hunt (like DKS, KBD, etc), but not for a quest, I feel it's a little much for a quest. That's just my opinion though.

 

Oh boy... I giggle to think of what the author will feel when attempting Mourning's End's part 2's Agility obstacle. Now THAT'S what I call frustration unless you have 70+ agility...

I agree! I did that quest at 60 Agility. In all, it took me roughly 8 hours to do that quest. <_<

I think I did that quest at the minimum possible agility (I think 50 something), and I swear, I wanted to rip something apart haha.

~Dan

 

I'm with you on that one! I did it the bare minimum to and wanted to shoot the very next person that I saw!

[Lux]

Racheya, I found your article an interesting read. I've only ever done the quests that give rewards to further skills or combat. Bosses for me are like a fear of the unknown, and all the pre guide reading doesn't seem to help when "it's time". Same feeling as going in the old wilderness <shudder> LOL 5 steps at a time. Some low life lurer killing for the 1000 mage longs you were hoping to trade. Give me revs any day. Great article, and your PERSONAL opinion respected.

[Wingless]

Oh boy... I giggle to think of what the author will feel when attempting Mourning's End's part 2's Agility obstacle. Now THAT'S what I call frustration unless you have 70+ agility...

I agree! I did that quest at 60 Agility. In all, it took me roughly 8 hours to do that quest. <_<

I think I did that quest at the minimum possible agility (I think 50 something), and I swear, I wanted to rip something apart haha.

~Dan

 

I'm with you on that one! I did it the bare minimum to and wanted to shoot the very next person that I saw!

 

I did it around about 60 Agility and it took me 2-3 hours tops. Was I like lucky or something? >_<

[Sal VJ]

I think it's inevitable that they will raise the cap to 120 on all skills. Sure they say they wont, but we all know how that has fared in the past.

[Range_This11]

It would be stupid to do that. No one would ever have the patience to reach 120 in every single skill. I don't care how dedicated you are to RuneScape, that is just ridiculous.

[langer]

It would be stupid to do that. No one would ever have the patience to reach 120 in every single skill. I don't care how dedicated you are to RuneScape, that is just ridiculous.

 

There will always be players trying to reach "impossible" goals. I agree the majority of players will not go for these goals but you can't used an absolute in this case.

[Vulxai]

I think it's inevitable that they will raise the cap to 120 on all skills. Sure they say they wont, but we all know how that has fared in the past.

 

To be honest, I really don't see this happening. If the rewards didn't take as long to get, I don't think they would have even done if for dunge. MAYBE future skills? But I don't see it happening for current skills. That's just my opinion.

[Jonanananas]

The only skills I could see a raise to 120 are hitpoints(this may be actually a not so bad idea) and maybe smithing(if they [bleep] up the smithing rework)

 

It wouldn't be a good solution for smithing, and regarding hitpoints...It isn't really the solution for higher-hitting weapons either, as most wont get far past 99...and 2 hp really don't make a big difference here.

 

 

so: imo, even the most plausible skills wouldnt be so wise for rising the cap. Don't think that it's likely

[winterhawk18]

Personally I'm in the group that would quit the minute the level cap is increased to 120. I just recently hit 138 combat, but I didn't do it by spending insane amounts of time sitting at the computer on a daily basis, but by remaining dedicated to the game for six years. Overall my time played per day is only about a hour. I am enjoying my position as one of the "upper class" runescape players, but that would be ripped away from me with 120 skills. It would take several years to get back to that level.

 

Runescape requires enough time as is, and, I hate to stereotype like this, but, you really would have to be a no lifer to gain 104m in a single skill. That is a staggering amount of xp, and I find it funny that in my experiences many advocates of 120 skills are players with no 99's or have a 99 in one of the "easy" skills. I don't think they know how hard it is to get 13m xp, let alone 104m. I would be willing to venture a guess that atleast 90% of players don't have more than 2 99's. 120 skills would really serve a usefull purpose to only a very small amount of players, who, in all fairness, probably need reason to leave the game, not play even more.Theres also the issue that most skills don't have content all the way to 99, and still have plenty of room for new features. 99-120 would just be empty space serving no purpose other than reason to grind and no-life. Another problem I see is the competition factor. As an avid monster hunter, I spend a lot of time at places like gwd, and these days crashing is a pretty bad, just imagine what it will be like when its lv140 and 150 players doing the crashing. A few select players who already have enough exp to get skills into the 110's, or play 8 hours a day and can get there quickly, would have a monstrous advantage over others when boss hunting. Atleast nowadays most players are relatively near each other in combat ability ( 130-138 @sara, a little more level discrepancy at bandos, almost everybody at Arma is 95-99, or at bare minimum 90range )

 

The way I see it, 120 skills would make runescape less fun for me, and yes I may sound a little selfish, but if I'm not having fun while playing, whats the point? The way I see it, its either spend 6 hours at the computer everyday, or give up on runescape and enjoy the remainder of the best years of my life. To me, the choice is obvious.

[finalheaven]

120cap would be a nightmare for me lol but if it comes then let it come.

[Viv]

i dont support 120 all skills as thiers got to be a point where you just play the game without going for crazy goals..

 

since i got all 99s ive been doing a bunch of different things instead of grinding a skill and 120 in one skill that we know will get fast doesnt seem much of a problem but mining 99-120 fish 99-120 agil 99-120...idk i think i'd quit because i wount want to spend all those hours...

 

and combats yeh i wouldnt mind 120 str attack and def and would grind to them but it would affect the game more negatively at bosses and stuff...

[Vulxai]

I wouldn't quit simply because you can get higher levels. Then again, I don't have that great of skills anyways. To me, it'd just give you more things to do. I play the game for simply a relaxation cause, I don't play because I need to get the next 1337 level (I don't even know what that means!). I play because I enjoy playing. 120 Level caps would simply give me more time playing.

[Troacctid]

I think it's inevitable that they will raise the cap to 120 on all skills. Sure they say they wont, but we all know how that has fared in the past.

No it isn't. It will never happen. I guarantee it. And I'm willing to bet, too. Name your price.

[Chaos_Helios]

I agree with how some quests are difficult/intimidating however for the people that don't want to be p2p, the quests are not plentiful enough and most are not hard enough to be "the one you are dreading." :(

[AuldCrone]

No offense to the author, but I found the quest article to be ridiculous. I personally love quests and how they can frighten you so much is something I find a bit amusing.

That's the point, you PERSONALLY love quests - but this isn't the same for everyone, I do hope you realise. Everyone can have different feelings about quests and I assure you that there are people who have Quest Phobia.

And I can assure you I pity those people. I strongly agree with Aceethan, the post was ridiculous. Stop doing riskless tasks such as no-lifing skills, get some games like Zelda and such and stop overacting so much over skills. My main reason to play the game is quests, and it sickens me to constantly hear people acting as if they were a minor activity in game, stop putting down other people's activities in game. You don't see people putting down skills, do you?

 

It's really annoying how, when you like quests, you need to hear these people who have "quest phobia" whining all the time. Imagine that your favourite food is cake and everytime you had cake some guy was constantly blaming it next to you. Whenever a quest is out, every forums get flooded with immature kids spamming "guyde plz" "plz men y need halp with quest y am stuck" "plz post guyde", you go out and try to do the quest and you get 30 fools following you around asking for instructions, it gets pretty annoying. You don't like quests, you think they're just an obstacle and you absolutely need guides to do them, then don't do them. Get over it, they're just not for your level of questing experience, stop harassing those who love questing.

 

Excuse me, but what games I like to play and how I play them should have no effect on you nor be any business of yours. At NO point in the article did I suggest quests weren't important. I quote "It would be stupid of me to say that quests dont play a huge part in many players Runescape lives." I also say that "In theory, I like quests. I like the idea of breaking away from the grind of most other activities and delving into exciting new stories and plotlines with interesting NPCs and humorous dialogue."

 

I think you're mistaking me for someone who goes on the RSOF. If you have ever seen me around update threads you'd know that I don't mind new quests in the slightest. I'm not the sort of person that NEEDS new content every week to be satisfied so please don't presume that I am. The main point of quest phobia is that you just avoid quests until you really HAVE to do them. I do believe that I am allowed to not like quests and at no point have I ever harassed quests either.

 

I think you might need to read the article again, because you're certainly getting the wrong idea from it :unsure:

I don't recall asking what games you play or claiming it was my business, but still go find yourself better games because whatever you're doing it's making you sound pityful on the thread.

 

I don't care if you like quests or not. I don't care about how many excuses you bring up to cover the fact you fail at questing. What I care about, is that you're giving my favourite thing in game a bad image, and deliberately or not you're putting it down. When I opened up tip it and read "quest phobia" I was already taking it for an offence since "phobia" isn't much of a positive word. If you liked questing, you wouldn't have come up with such an expression, so don't come up with more excuses on that one.

 

Think I'm mistaking you for someone who posts on RSOF... actually no, I don't think so, I know that you're just the same kind of person who goes and begs for guides whenever a quest is out, you've proved it to me enough. I know how people who don't like quests react to them. You just happen to speak English better than most quest ranters out there.

 

You may be allowed to not like quests but who are you to go and put it down? The choice of keeping it for yourself or putting it down in front of others makes quite a difference. If your opinions wouldn't be unwanted/offensive, they wouldn't have backfired at all... in fact I believe you already knew in advance they would backfire which is why you took precautions and wrote sentences such as "bla bla i like quests & don't mean to put them down" etc.

 

I've been through this several times and I know damn well what idea I'm getting from your post, because this is how it all begins. So yeah, if you don't agree that what you posted may be taken as offensive feel free to stay in denial, but do know that there are people out there who think this post of yours is pityful, ridiculous and offensive.

 

 

Wow, so can I assume you are the kind of player who responds "st*u, noob" to any/everyone in game?

 

You sure sound like it.

 

I looked up your stats, and I've got you beat in 15, including attack, strength, and magic. You only have 3 more constitution lvls than I, 5 more defense, and 6 more prayer.

 

I'm sure you have quite a few more qp than I, and more power to you.

 

That still doesn't make you king, I hate to say.

 

I enjoyed the article, because I have the phobia myself.

 

I hate the repetitive and pointless running back and forth, and sometimes the seeming waste of resources for the sake of doing so.

 

Like the author, I understand and support the gatekeeping set for certain rewards or skills, and like the author, it is the ONLY reason I do quests.

 

My skills are decent enough that it doesn't cost me much to do the quests I want the rewards from (got you beat in total lvls by 72, so I can catch, grow or make any resources I need), and I think anyone wearing a quest cape deserves true acclaim--to have to keep their skills current and maxed to wear it at all.

 

The author does you no harm by having her opinion, and neither do I.

 

Racheya, I'm girding myself to finish Desert Treasure--only started it because I had a lvl 3 Clue, and only will finish it because I want a Canifis portal in my house--lolol.

 

Good on you for doing it!

 

Wish me luck--arrgh.

 

and p.s. to Silvertaler--next time you feel like blowing someone off with the equivalent of the tiresome and way too prevalent "st*u, noob" (which is all your comments so far here really boil down to), pull out a mirror.