Troll Bomber Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Does bringing a fire cape on an ice strykwyrm task increase the damage of your spells by only 40 like I've heard or is it more? I don't have a fire cape and spent 2k pts to unlock them, and after trying fire wave them (not 95 mage) with mystic (welfare gear, never maged before), I packed up and left after seeing others hitting 900+ damage consistently. After I buy my mage book in a few days, I'll have a decent outfit with sol, ahrims, arc stream, mage book, seers ring ect. Will that outfit + fire surge hit pretty high? I really don't want to be bothered for several more hours on end dying to Jad, seeing as I already spent the pts to unlock. I'm 88 herblore so I could also boost to ext. magic seeing as it's a fair damage increase, or bring wolpertinger along if that helps. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 It's the same as a ferocious ring, so +40 to every hit that connects, which ends up being quite a significant difference. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I used wolper,stream necklace,ahrims,sol,slay helm,ardy cape and hit 600+ constantly on them.I also used a cannon to speed things up(noted drops pay for the c'balls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 'If a player does not own the fire cape, which is required to be assigned tasks with killing ice strykewyrms, he/she is welcome to spend 2,000 Slayer reward points instead to unlock the task. However, while using the fire cape, players get 2x the damage with fire spells and +40 damage added to all attacks (even non-magic), versus 1.5x damage with fire spells and no damage added without the cape, so players are advised to attempt to gain the fire cape instead of purchasing this ability.'From runescape wiki. Fire cape is worth getting not just for ice strykes for the stats on slayer tasks in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 You lose 50%+40 damage per hit without the cape, assuming you use fire spells. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autist Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 'If a player does not own the fire cape, which is required to be assigned tasks with killing ice strykewyrms, he/she is welcome to spend 2,000 Slayer reward points instead to unlock the task. However, while using the fire cape, players get 2x the damage with fire spells and +40 damage added to all attacks (even non-magic), versus 1.5x damage with fire spells and no damage added without the cape, so players are advised to attempt to gain the fire cape instead of purchasing this ability.'From runescape wiki. Fire cape is worth getting not just for ice strykes for the stats on slayer tasks in general. Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. To OP: Big mistake buying the ability :( Since there's no point doing the task without fire cape anyway. As BBK quoted, with fire cape, you'd get 2 X the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 'If a player does not own the fire cape, which is required to be assigned tasks with killing ice strykewyrms, he/she is welcome to spend 2,000 Slayer reward points instead to unlock the task. However, while using the fire cape, players get 2x the damage with fire spells and +40 damage added to all attacks (even non-magic), versus 1.5x damage with fire spells and no damage added without the cape, so players are advised to attempt to gain the fire cape instead of purchasing this ability.'From runescape wiki. Fire cape is worth getting not just for ice strykes for the stats on slayer tasks in general. Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer.For most players with decent income, fire cape + bandos turmoiling is worth it over the soul wars cape. Prayer pots are extremely cheap. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 'If a player does not own the fire cape, which is required to be assigned tasks with killing ice strykewyrms, he/she is welcome to spend 2,000 Slayer reward points instead to unlock the task. However, while using the fire cape, players get 2x the damage with fire spells and +40 damage added to all attacks (even non-magic), versus 1.5x damage with fire spells and no damage added without the cape, so players are advised to attempt to gain the fire cape instead of purchasing this ability.'From runescape wiki. Fire cape is worth getting not just for ice strykes for the stats on slayer tasks in general. To OP: Big mistake buying the ability :( Since there's no point doing the task without fire cape anyway. As BBK quoted, with fire cape, you'd get 2 X the damage.That's not really completely true, tbh. With mage, yes, it's not a great task anymore, but if you cannon and melee, it's still a fast(42k ph) and profitable task, but really, you should get the cape. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks. Yeah looking back I somewhat regret buying that now, seeing as I didn't have the points until 95 slayer anyway... and I'm almost 96 slayer and just got my first task of them. Oh well, nothing I can do about it now. I can get to and pray against jad no problem whatsoever, but now that healers heal him seemingly regardless of how you take care of them, I can't keep up with their healing and just rage-die against jad. I use SW cape on every other task anyway, but still kinda frustrated that I can't get cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks. Yeah looking back I somewhat regret buying that now, seeing as I didn't have the points until 95 slayer anyway... and I'm almost 96 slayer and just got my first task of them. Oh well, nothing I can do about it now. I can get to and pray against jad no problem whatsoever, but now that healers heal him seemingly regardless of how you take care of them, I can't keep up with their healing and just rage-die against jad. I use SW cape on every other task anyway, but still kinda frustrated that I can't get cape.Only healers that either haven't been distracted yet or are attacking you can heal Jad. You need to safespot them against each other so only one or two can attack you. It's not hard, just run sideways when you have them all on you and they'll line up. Then it's really easy to just out-dps them. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossed_Body Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 2 words: 1000+ hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_moocky Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 The cape gives +40 damage to each hit regardless of style. Fire magic without the cape has a 50% damage boost, with the cape it doubles your damage. quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks. Yeah looking back I somewhat regret buying that now, seeing as I didn't have the points until 95 slayer anyway... and I'm almost 96 slayer and just got my first task of them. Oh well, nothing I can do about it now. I can get to and pray against jad no problem whatsoever, but now that healers heal him seemingly regardless of how you take care of them, I can't keep up with their healing and just rage-die against jad. I use SW cape on every other task anyway, but still kinda frustrated that I can't get cape.Only healers that either haven't been distracted yet or are attacking you can heal Jad. You need to safespot them against each other so only one or two can attack you. It's not hard, just run sideways when you have them all on you and they'll line up. Then it's really easy to just out-dps them. If I was to kill 3 of the 4 healers and left 1 to attack me, would I just have to out dps 1 healer or would they respawn? If they respawn, is there a time limit in which they'll respawn or is it according to Jad's health again? Finally, if I choose to melee (Claws, rapier w/ exts), how do you go about praying on that? Is it melee nonstop then change to range/mage when applicable? How much more risk of death does melee carry? Sorry about all the questions, it's just that all this talk has me wanting to try again for a fire cape <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 You COULD kill 3/4 healers, but it's so much easier to just safespot them. I'm also not sure if killing some of them causes those few to respawn or not- the rules there are, if he gets back over 1/2 hp, the healers come back if they're dead. Again, not sure if that applies to only some being dead. Melee is easier than you'd think. Like you said, pray melee until it winds up for something else, and then back to melee as soon as it hits. If you can pray switch fine with ranged, it shouldn't be much harder. If you get him down to half hp and then claw twice as the healers come out, you've got a good shot at knocking him out right there. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levon_ Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYS It's great you know what you're talking about rustiod. Everything you've said is 100% accurate a true. That being said...your a [bleep]ing [bleep] douchebag, and none of your advice will ever (or should ever) be taken seriously because of it.disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYS I did 85-95 slayer w/ only proselyte and sw cape. Seeing as I farmed my own ranarr in between tasks, cost wasn't an issue. I just found that being able to stay at a task of 250 abbys or dark beasts was more convenient than possibly hitting a little higher with fire cape seeing as I piety every task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levon_ Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYS I did 85-95 slayer w/ only proselyte and sw cape. Seeing as I farmed my own ranarr in between tasks, cost wasn't an issue. I just found that being able to stay at a task of 250 abbys or dark beasts was more convenient than possibly hitting a little higher with fire cape seeing as I piety every task. You're able to do every task in bandos/fc with constant turmoil/piety and not have to bank. unless you suck of course It's great you know what you're talking about rustiod. Everything you've said is 100% accurate a true. That being said...your a [bleep]ing [bleep] douchebag, and none of your advice will ever (or should ever) be taken seriously because of it.disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYS I did 85-95 slayer w/ only proselyte and sw cape. Seeing as I farmed my own ranarr in between tasks, cost wasn't an issue. I just found that being able to stay at a task of 250 abbys or dark beasts was more convenient than possibly hitting a little higher with fire cape seeing as I piety every task. You're able to do every task in bandos/fc with constant turmoil/piety and not have to bank. unless you suck of course You're 84 slayer. gf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYSYou sound real mature in that opinion. Really makes people have belief in you. Fire cape isn't always the best cape for slayer, far from it. There is room for atleast 3 capes for even pro slayers(with overloads and spec restores). Sw cape is generally the best cape a medium to high level slayer can use, and if you can't use turmoil(which the posted doesn't), sw cape is clearly better. Oh, and level your slayer. You suck at it. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRambo Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 ^ Not to mention that they don't even have a SW cape and/or Fire cape? I use SW cape for most of my slayer tasks. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." "An imperfect man can do great deeds, and a great man imperfect ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossed_Body Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 ^ Not to mention that they don't even have a SW cape and/or Fire cape? I use SW cape for most of my slayer tasks. I pretty much only use SW cape for my tasks. 19m slayer exp and counting. I just like how it shaves a few seconds of me paying attention to my pray points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levon_ Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYSYou sound real mature in that opinion. Really makes people have belief in you. Fire cape isn't always the best cape for slayer, far from it. There is room for atleast 3 capes for even pro slayers(with overloads and spec restores). Sw cape is generally the best cape a medium to high level slayer can use, and if you can't use turmoil(which the posted doesn't), sw cape is clearly better. Oh, and level your slayer. You suck at it. obviously you're stupidsoul wars cape saves you maybe 20k/hr like i said, probably less. the strength bonus (and attack) of firecape is always better. always always always i guess you also believe in using prossy top and verac skirt or something. guess what? bandos is better always. im still right just cause my stats aren't high doesn't mean i know jack [cabbage] about efficiencylike you doYou're 84 slayer. gf.quess what? i'm still right. gf It's great you know what you're talking about rustiod. Everything you've said is 100% accurate a true. That being said...your a [bleep]ing [bleep] douchebag, and none of your advice will ever (or should ever) be taken seriously because of it.disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacTise69 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYSYou sound real mature in that opinion. Really makes people have belief in you. Fire cape isn't always the best cape for slayer, far from it. There is room for atleast 3 capes for even pro slayers(with overloads and spec restores). Sw cape is generally the best cape a medium to high level slayer can use, and if you can't use turmoil(which the posted doesn't), sw cape is clearly better. Oh, and level your slayer. You suck at it. obviously you're stupidsoul wars cape saves you maybe 20k/hr like i said, probably less. the strength bonus (and attack) of firecape is always better. always always always i guess you also believe in using prossy top and verac skirt or something. guess what? bandos is better always. im still right just cause my stats aren't high doesn't mean i know jack [cabbage] about efficiencylike you doYou're 84 slayer. gf.quess what? i'm still right. gf Mithril Dragons you would want to use a Ardy Cape for the +6 stab and +6 prayer. Waterfiends you would want to wear karils. Be careful with using words like always. It can get you in trouble very easily. :shame: Trolling by giving good advice since April 2011. The Blog - Currently Cleaning Herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levon_ Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not many other slayer tasks you would use fire cape tbh. Nomands prayer cape is far more better, since the best way to burn through tasks quickly is using piety.With fire cape+piety, of course it would be faster, but you would be spending extra money on prayer. lol. gtfo. sw cape saves you like 20k/hr on p pots fire cape is always the best for slayer.ALWAYSYou sound real mature in that opinion. Really makes people have belief in you. Fire cape isn't always the best cape for slayer, far from it. There is room for atleast 3 capes for even pro slayers(with overloads and spec restores). Sw cape is generally the best cape a medium to high level slayer can use, and if you can't use turmoil(which the posted doesn't), sw cape is clearly better. Oh, and level your slayer. You suck at it. obviously you're stupidsoul wars cape saves you maybe 20k/hr like i said, probably less. the strength bonus (and attack) of firecape is always better. always always always i guess you also believe in using prossy top and verac skirt or something. guess what? bandos is better always. im still right just cause my stats aren't high doesn't mean i know jack [cabbage] about efficiencylike you doYou're 84 slayer. gf.quess what? i'm still right. gf Mithril Dragons you would want to use a Ardy Cape for the +6 stab and +6 prayer. Waterfiends you would want to wear karils. Be careful with using words like always. It can get you in trouble very easily. :shame: lol It's great you know what you're talking about rustiod. Everything you've said is 100% accurate a true. That being said...your a [bleep]ing [bleep] douchebag, and none of your advice will ever (or should ever) be taken seriously because of it.disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 At an income of 2m per hour unless a fire cape saves you 45 seconds or so, it's not worth using over sw. Assuming you use only 20k extra in ppots per hr. http://www.[Caution! Jagex Rule Violation].com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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