June 19, 201115 yr After reading the '5 Worst People' thread, I got wondering. What kinds of thing make someone a bad person?What groups of people would you consider bad people?Why?
June 19, 201115 yr Someone who infringes on the rights of others for their own gain or for amusement. Get back here so I can rub your butt.
June 19, 201115 yr Most people got into that top 5 thread by genocide. So, yeah, the urge to commit genocide tends to be a less desirable quality. Basically any desire to cause harm to another person for whatever reason would make someone more bad of a person, though not necessarily a bad person.
June 19, 201115 yr Uhm, what do you mean "groups of people?" Also, based on this video and larger considerations I've been considering whether there really is, or should be, a "good-bad" dichotomy based on morality. Certainly there are harmful people, and people who commit horrifying acts that the world would be better without, but "bad" is not universal and the notion that some people are just plain "bad" can lead to potential disasters. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots
June 19, 201115 yr A bad person is someone who's own deeds affect others in a negative way. Even when unaware. -Someone who steals from others.-Insults others for no apparent reason other then self gratification.-Vandalizes or destroys property without just cause.-Bragging and putting down others.-Rude to other people.-Playing favorites. Treating a specific group of people (or person) better than another group of people.-Using personal status to manipulate others less fortunate. For instance, giving money tothe homeless in exchange for doing something humiliating or dangerous.-Exploiting an opportunity. Selling out, Blackmailing, etc. On the contrary, someone who's deeds DON'T affect others directly can be bad in a way too, for ex: -Someone who's lazy. -Stupid and tries to not admit and fix it. (denial)-People who do not take things for granted. (Someone who complains that: they always eat veggies fordinner, their car gets scratched and damaged all the time, arguing when people are only trying to help you.)-A celebrity, jock, or any high stature person who is smug and denies his or her flaws. Only admits perfection.-A person who has no dignity. Always chasing celebrities, favors only one type of music/T.V./games. Extremes can be bad too. Even when some are perceived as "good". -Being too kind. Some may think it's only for the sake of gaining praise.-Too honest. Nobody wants to hear an opinion that'll offend them.-Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you.-Someone who is completely selfless. Neglecting your own comforts is just as bad or even worse.
June 19, 201115 yr -Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you. I agreed with everything else on your list except this. Having all those things doesn't make you bad, but bragging about it, showing it off (as you said above), is bad. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~
June 19, 201115 yr -Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you. I agreed with everything else on your list except this. Having all those things doesn't make you bad, but bragging about it, showing it off (as you said above), is bad. Bragging about it or being jealous of someone else for those things. Jealousy, not good. Of course, by that list, I'm a bad person. But I don't mind. /FG/First thread post to when I joined the family.[hide=Insert rant here]blahblahblahLIFE[/hide]
June 19, 201115 yr the notion that some people are just plain "bad" can lead to potential disasters. That's where you get the idea for genocide.
June 19, 201115 yr How is only favoring one style of musik a bad quality? I mean, I have a couple genres I enjoy...but as long as ppl can respect genres they don't enjoy, I see no problem. "Don't get in my face, don't invade my space. I'll put you in your place.I'll only tell you once, I'll never tell you twice. This is me being nice." ~Porcelain and the Tramps
June 19, 201115 yr Anyone who is a detriment to the progress of society Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn
June 19, 201115 yr Anyone who is a detriment to the progress of society Progress of society is so loaded and so subjective to the society you live in. Certainly in germany in 1940 there were many within society that thought that the holocaust was bad but didnt speak up because they would have been seen as a detriment to their society. At the end of the day social opinions dont make someone good or bad, its whether you impede on someone elses rights. Not to sound corny but I will quote what I think are "inalienable" rights that you probably have heard a million times (now a million and one) throughout your life. Life [obviously murders are bad in any culture]liberty [lots of examples of majorities tyrannizing people. Classic one is women in the middle east, I would call their oppressers evil.]property [anyone who steals or harms your property, whether its your stuffed animal or your physical body is bad]ability to pursue happiness [bullies, this ties into liberty a lot of the time too. Arguably women in the middle east suffer from this, or minorities who are blocked because of discrimination] A list of the worst people in history are the ones who broke these principles to the greatest degree. I meant those that harm others intenetionally, while bringing no greater benefit Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn
June 19, 201115 yr I don't tend to think that people are either 'bad' or 'good', but rather some people have more negative traits than others. I don't see a false dichotomy between 'good' and 'evil' as generally being any different to this thread. The thing about saying 'detrimental to society' is that as far as the NSDAP were concerned, killing six millions Jews as well as blacks, gays, socialists and other political activists was to advance their idea of society ruled and controlled by the Volksgemeinschaft. Surely intentions and motives should be condemned, but their intentions were good as far as they were concerned. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules |
June 19, 201115 yr Anyone who doesn't like Star_Fox's sig is a bad person. Check out my RS streaming channel!
June 20, 201115 yr Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
June 20, 201115 yr Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things. For once I agree with you, Y Guy.
June 20, 201115 yr Not liking baconCall me the next Hitler then. I don't hate it, and BLTs are pretty good, I just don't really like it http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots
June 20, 201115 yr always puts themselves before othershates a group of people for no reasondoesn't care about the lives of others or their safetysees no problem with hurting otherscommits genocide as a leadertries to act superior to others when they are notkidnaps children (Joseph Kony)attempts to take advantage of othersWe all commit wrongful acts, but those who constantly do it, do it at a massive degree, or are a major threat to others are the primary "bad" people. Even though, as Y_guy we are all bad people in a sense. [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide]
June 20, 201115 yr Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible.. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
June 20, 201115 yr Isn't it more useful to think of 'good' as a spectrum rather than a black-and-white adjective. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules |
June 20, 201115 yr More useful, perhaps. Not really accurate, however. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
June 20, 201115 yr Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible..By that same logic shouldn't someone who is truly "bad" be incapable of doing anything good? And if everyone is bad originally, as you say, wouldn't that make every person on earth the devil incarnate since they're all unable to do good deeds? http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots
June 21, 201115 yr Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible.. I think the sum of all your actions are the guiding line here. Perhaps each good action is worth one point (perhaps more depending on what it is and why you do it), and a bad action is -1 - ∞ (whatever the worst action is worth) So 90% of the time I am good, so +1 at a time for each good action, and then I kill someone. I think that particular action puts me in the negative. However lets say I have a lot of money, and I take most of that money and help kids in Africa and through my efforts I save 1000's of lives. But then I get charged with a felony for embezzlement, or perhaps cheat on my wife/gf, etc., I would say that despite the lie I would be a good person.The problem is that the scale in question varies from person to person, culture to culture, and circumstance to circumstance; that's why I said I don't really believe in a morality system full heartedly, people are good at justifying their actions to show that they were really acting in the common good based on some system of moral units. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots
June 21, 201115 yr Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things.Man, that's Serious Post of the Year winner right there. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is."
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