TubbyMcFee Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Having recently hit 110 CMB and 75 slayer, I made a trip to the Ancient Cavern to plant the Fairy Ring near Kuradel, giving me easier access to her in case I decide to use her. I had just spent 400 slayer points on EXP, so I had about 60 points left. I took a task from Kuradel since I was there, and she gave me Living Rock Creatures. Knowing nothing about these, I skipped it. She then gave me 270 Gargoyles, which I hated doing when I had a low number, so 270 wasn't very appealing. Again, I skipped it. I'm out of points now, and she gave me Living Rock Creature again, albeit a slightly lower number. Now I'm stuck doing these things, so I've got a few general questions. 1.) Given my stats, can I even fight these things? My stats should be updated in the sig, but I did recently hit 85 STR. My equipment is BCP, Tassets, Glory, Drag Def, a whip, full slayer helm, d boots, and barrows gloves 2.) Should I even use Kuradel after this task? I may have reached the minimum requirements, but that doesn't necessarily make her a good slayer master for me. 3.) The bestiary says that Living Rock Creatures are weak to crush attacks, so what weapon has a strong crush attack? The whip certainly doesn't. Or does this bonus not really warrant getting a new weapon? Thanks for the help in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Sell tassets for fury and berserker ring and use V skirt until you can afford tassets again. LRC have such low def in general, any weapon works. So use whip in your case. Get 70 prayer and start using piety on tasks. Sell BCP for it if you have to. Keep using kuradal. [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Having recently hit 110 CMB and 75 slayer, I made a trip to the Ancient Cavern to plant the Fairy Ring near Kuradel, giving me easier access to her in case I decide to use her. I had just spent 400 slayer points on EXP, so I had about 60 points left. I took a task from Kuradel since I was there, and she gave me Living Rock Creatures. Knowing nothing about these, I skipped it. She then gave me 270 Gargoyles, which I hated doing when I had a low number, so 270 wasn't very appealing. Again, I skipped it. I'm out of points now, and she gave me Living Rock Creature again, albeit a slightly lower number. Now I'm stuck doing these things, so I've got a few general questions. 1.) Given my stats, can I even fight these things? My stats should be updated in the sig, but I did recently hit 85 STR. My equipment is BCP, Tassets, Glory, Drag Def, a whip, full slayer helm, d boots, and barrows gloves 2.) Should I even use Kuradel after this task? I may have reached the minimum requirements, but that doesn't necessarily make her a good slayer master for me. 3.) The bestiary says that Living Rock Creatures are weak to crush attacks, so what weapon has a strong crush attack? The whip certainly doesn't. Or does this bonus not really warrant getting a new weapon? Thanks for the help in advance! 1. Yes.2. Yes.3. Dunno, I've used the Whip here everytime, however, I normally skip these. You should do tasks like Gargoyles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calisme Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Use a saradomin sword against them, assuming no chaotic maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreens Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 you don't even need a saradomin sword/maul, just use a whip. fyi, ladies dig the talonsHot man of the Trickster Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 You should do tasks like Gargoyles.Bad charms, not good exp, terrible cash, low effigy rate. Why should he do tasks like that? [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 You should do tasks like Gargoyles.Bad charms, not good exp, terrible cash, low effigy rate. Why should he do tasks like that? They aren't an ideal task, but they're still around 35k slayer experience per hour. Living Rock Creatures might be 40k, perhaps 45k experience per hour, but they're arguably worse for summoning experience than gargoyles. It's better to take a mediocre task when your low on points than risk getting stuck with something even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I agree with the above until you get points back. At OP, do not use points on xp. They aren't worth it. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Also, spending points on EXP is a bad idea :/You get what, 7.5 k xp?Which is ~15 minutes work If you wanna spend your points on something other than skipping tasks, spend it on the runes23972972 x more worth it Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 You should do tasks like Gargoyles.Bad charms, not good exp, terrible cash, low effigy rate. Why should he do tasks like that? TBH, gargoyles are decent (with the unlocking of that special skill that allows you to have a rock hammer in your inventory and be allowed to kill them)The summoning exp isn't anything to scoff at (you get a fair amount of blues), and if you haven't - you can get a ferocious ring. Considering you don't have high prayer - I think it's probably safe to assume that you're not completely power slaying and using cannons for everything.In that case - gargoyles are pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Also, spending points on EXP is a bad idea :/You get what, 7.5 k xp?Which is ~15 minutes work If you wanna spend your points on something other than skipping tasks, spend it on the runes23972972 x more worth it 10k per 400 points I believe. I agree though, the runes are the best place to put extra points, though I advise you accumulate a fair amount of points(1,000 is a pretty safe amount) so you don't get forced into doing bad tasks; you can always just cash them all in at 99. TBH, gargoyles are decent (with the unlocking of that special skill that allows you to have a rock hammer in your inventory and be allowed to kill them)The summoning exp isn't anything to scoff at (you get a fair amount of blues), and if you haven't - you can get a ferocious ring. Considering you don't have high prayer - I think it's probably safe to assume that you're not completely power slaying and using cannons for everything.In that case - gargoyles are pretty decent. That's another important thing, getting Prayer higher is important, since you'll probably want to start training quickly, and using Superhuman Str, Piety or Turmoil is pretty useful for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyMcFee Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Sell tassets for fury and berserker ring and use V skirt until you can afford tassets again. LRC have such low def in general, any weapon works. So use whip in your case. Get 70 prayer and start using piety on tasks. Sell BCP for it if you have to. Keep using kuradal. I'm now thinking about selling my BCP and Tassets, which will net me around 40m given the amount of cash I currently have. This would allow me to get a furry, zerker ring, 70 prayer, and a nice chunk of cash left over. But is it REALLY worth it? I don't mean to sound annoying, but I spent a long time getting Bandos to sell it so soon. Then again, I don't know if its worth keeping when I can get all of that stuff. Is it just personal opinion that I should sell, or do other people think this is a good idea too? Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It depends what you got the armour for; selling it and buying what you listed will give you more defence bonus, a higher max hit due to higher strength, attack and defence levels, and in the end a major increase in slayer xp/hr. If you got Bandos to look cool then don't sell it. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyMcFee Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 It depends what you got the armour for; selling it and buying what you listed will give you more defence bonus, a higher max hit due to higher strength, attack and defence levels, and in the end a major increase in slayer xp/hr. If you got Bandos to look cool then don't sell it. To be honest, the main reason I did get Bandos in the first place was because I was getting back into combat after getting 99 WC and needed some good armor, and thought "Sure, Bandos seems like a good idea." But now, I'm focusing more on slayer, so its starting to look like I should sell and get the items listed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Buy the auto finish thing for 300 or was it 400 points, it allows you to semi afk gargs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Buy the auto finish thing for 300 or was it 400 points, it allows you to semi afk gargs.Gargoyles are not worth semi afking, let alone doing at all. Bad charms, $, effigies, and xp. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Buy the auto finish thing for 300 or was it 400 points, it allows you to semi afk gargs.Gargoyles are not worth semi afking, let alone doing at all. Bad charms, $, effigies, and xp. I have to disagree. Whenever I have a gargoyle task I always get 20-25 blues per task, along with a fair few crimsons and golds. They aren't hard to kill, they seem pretty good xp to me, so I just do it without complaint :) As for LRC, they used to be pretty good profit should you have the mining level (I didnt look at stats, sorry) to mine them, not sure if that is still the case however. Gotta Catch 'Em All!Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Buy the auto finish thing for 300 or was it 400 points, it allows you to semi afk gargs.Gargoyles are not worth semi afking, let alone doing at all. Bad charms, $, effigies, and xp. You always seem to like to repeat what other people say. In kuradals dungeon, you kill gargs pretty fast. With auto retaliate on, you just stand in the middle and the task becomes very easy. Gargoyles are a pretty common task, and since there are better tasks to block. Buying the auto kill mechanic makes this task much more bearable and infinitely easier. Who does slayer for money anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Well, gargoyles are actually a good task to block because they are so common. You don't block the worst 5 tasks, you block the 5 most common that you don't want to do (and skip the rest). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I would do LRC. They aren't good charms, cash, effigies or even slayer exp but they are really worth doing for one reason. They are the best melee exp of any task. Also, selling your bcp/tassy and using veracs + prossy + fury + claws + peity would be much faster and generally better. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Melee xp is the one thing people don't generally need when slaying. For most (non-range tank) slayers their melee xp is ahead of their slayer xp and stays that way. Plus that there are many good ways to get melee xp after 99 slayer. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Well, gargoyles are actually a good task to block because they are so common. You don't block the worst 5 tasks, you block the 5 most common that you don't want to do (and skip the rest).This is correct. All the tasks on her recommended block list are common but not worth doing. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Buy the auto finish thing for 300 or was it 400 points, it allows you to semi afk gargs.Gargoyles are not worth semi afking, let alone doing at all. Bad charms, $, effigies, and xp. How did you manage to contradict yourself in not only the same thread, but also the same page? Absolutely amazing. On topic: Yes, you should fight LRC, since they are excellent melee xp. However, the task is a drudgery and isn't exceptional slayer xp. Don't worry too much about weapon choice, these guys have 0 defence as witnessed by turmoil's final boost. Whip works just beautifully (or rapier if and when you get one). As for gear, personally I'd recommend you give BA a shot. A fighter torso matches the BCP offensively and allows you to keep tassets. There isn't all that much use for defensive bonus in the majority of slayer tasks (since you'll be praying overhead on ones that do damage you hard at least until you get SS and turm). Nevertheless, prior to obtaining this item, it's still better to sell tassets for a fury/zerker/v skirt. Follow my road to 5.6/Gold Reaper/True Trim - DAT BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 My point, gargoyles become a much simpler and faster task After you buy the auto kill mechanic. Before that they are terrible. Also, you can effectively Mage slay them with the auto kill. Whether or not you decide to block them is totally up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 My point, gargoyles become a much simpler and faster task After you buy the auto kill mechanic. Before that they are terrible. Also, you can effectively Mage slay them with the auto kill. Whether or not you decide to block them is totally up to you.I have unlocked all rewards (except Strykes cuz I own a Fire Cape), and finishing blow didn't make my tasks any faster than before. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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