Why no BOA?

[stonewall337]

For as long as I can remember, indeed, perhaps since RS started, Jagex has taken a strong stance against any type of account integration for a player, meaning, each account and character must remain completely autonomous. There are, for Jagex, a few main advantages, each extra account has to have a separate membership, more time spent over various characters might help stave off boredom, etc. However, this has always been a pain, for me at least. Part of the reason I never made a pure is because getting cash and items over would be such a pain. As well, there can be no synergy between accounts. Thus, I couldn't train up certain skills because I'd completed quests, etc. Although I'm not advocating making everything soulbound BOA, it would be nice, even if there was some sort of penalty/timer/cost/xp reduction.

 

Thus the question: Do you think that Jagex should implement some sort of limited Bind to Account option, making certain items BOA, or making tradeable items legally and easily swapped between your personal accounts? This would require some sort of way to manage characters in one account. Thoughts?

[Turnpike]

I think they should do something like WoW, and have like a character list..and limit the number of accounts.

[DRUMINATOR17]

MAYBE...POSSIBLY...they could do something like that in the future with Loyalty Points or something. Only reason I could see for this would be say if someone made a pure and bought members on it, WHILE maintaining members since JUNE (or whenever it came out) so as it could 'catch' that pure up on a few of the auras, since you were a paying member the whole time. Though that would bring up the question of: give you the retroactive amount of points your Main had since june, or reequip the pure with the same auras purchased by the main, etc etc.

 

However again I doubt why there would be a "Jagexial" benefit so I doubt they would do it.

[Sir_Squab]

Tbh, if all your accounts were managed under one, er, account, it'd be pretty hard to transfer stuff between them unless Jagex let you.

 

But, er, seriously, I'm not sure what you're getting at. As long as you keep free trade, it's easy to transfer stuff between accounts by just logging them both on the same world. And fyi, I have been able to log two accounts onto the same world using the same computer for years, using no advanced computer knowledge or programs or whatnot, just an internet browser and a bit of creativity.

 

Seriously tho, you can either have an item transferable between two separate accounts or you can make the item not transferable between separate accounts.

 

As for character list/number of accounts... RS is easy to make accounts for. I could make half a dozen new email accounts and half a dozen new RS accounts using said emails. If I ran into a limited amount of accounts that my credit card was allowed to pay for, I could buy a few ultimate game cards and/or prepaid credit cards... it really isn't that hard.

[Youmu]

Hmm, multiple characters in one account maybe?

 

Say you got your main (one you use the most), then a pure, a skiller, a summ tank or something else. They would all fall under the same account and you can choose which one to play as. Obviously stats won't be shared but banks, achievements (completed quests/tasks) and such would. That way you wouldn't have to make a 2nd bank, or repeatedly doing quests, or whatnot.

 

Jagex should still seriously change the Shield of Arrav and Heroes Quests... given the current state of the RS community it's hard to find someone that's trustworthy.

[Quyneax]

I wouldn't be opposed to a system that would link multiple account to some sort of character list etc. But I don't like the idea of being able to obtain wealth on a high level account to very quickly start up a low-level pure. It's quite a large part of the game that you need money to train quickly, and I wouldn't want to see the ease with which you could make a turmoil pure, for example. On the other hand, if an item isn't tradeable, it should not be tradeable between accounts either. Assists between accounts owned by the same player would be fine though, imo, because it doesn't transfer very much (you get xp for one account being logged in on two accounts).

[Low C]

Wouldn't surprise me if we seen this implemented in the future considering the direction Jagex has been going in the past few years.

[stonewall337]

Q, thats the penalty part. 25% penalty or w/e. Remember, atm could just give cash to a clan mate, and have them give it to my pure, easy and done.

[Quyneax]

Q, thats the penalty part. 25% penalty or w/e. Remember, atm could just give cash to a clan mate, and have them give it to my pure, easy and done.

And also not allowed (both by trust trading rules and account interaction rules). I wouldn't like to see it implemented with a penalty either, unless it's very, very large (like over 60-70%).

[Sir_Squab]

I wouldn't be opposed to a system that would link multiple account to some sort of character list etc. But I don't like the idea of being able to obtain wealth on a high level account to very quickly start up a low-level pure. It's quite a large part of the game that you need money to train quickly, and I wouldn't want to see the ease with which you could make a turmoil pure, for example. On the other hand, if an item isn't tradeable, it should not be tradeable between accounts either. Assists between accounts owned by the same player would be fine though, imo, because it doesn't transfer very much (you get xp for one account being logged in on two accounts).

 

Fyi, not being able to share items between two linked accounts just means people will use accounts that aren't linked. It is VERY easy to trade between two accounts on the same computer currently. A linked account thing would be interesting, but in a class-less game such as RS there is not benefit outside of specialty PVP builds. I think a linked account works better on games where each account is a separate class.

 

Yes, I realize that's against the rules, but... well... so is botting?

[Zimbu]

But, er, seriously, I'm not sure what you're getting at. As long as you keep free trade, it's easy to transfer stuff between accounts by just logging them both on the same world. And fyi, I have been able to log two accounts onto the same world using the same computer for years, using no advanced computer knowledge or programs or whatnot, just an internet browser and a bit of creativity.

Trading between accounts is against the rules, so stonewall won't do it. I think JAGEx should consider modifying the rule because it's not enforced at all and players have acted as if it weren't there for years. I also don't think it would be so bad to allow trading between accounts. You made the money, so you should be able to give it to anybody you want, even yourself.

I wouldn't be opposed to a system that would link multiple account to some sort of character list etc. But I don't like the idea of being able to obtain wealth on a high level account to very quickly start up a low-level pure. It's quite a large part of the game that you need money to train quickly, and I wouldn't want to see the ease with which you could make a turmoil pure, for example.

Have you ever asked a random turmoil pure how they got the money. Many of them will talk in public chat about how they traded between accounts.

 

I think there should be a trade-upon-login system where you could trade anything so that the other player would receive it upon their next login, similar to returning a lend item. You could use this to trade between your own accounts or just to deliver a share of the loot to someone who had to leave as soon as the last trip to the boss was over. Logging in multiple characters could remain against the rules as anyone still logging in multiple characters would probably be trying to exploit their numbers somehow.

Wouldn't surprise me if we seen this implemented in the future considering the direction Jagex has been going in the past few years.

Refershing to see someone with an 06 account creation date who still thinks JAGEx is on the way up. :twss:

[Urza285]

I'm suprised this wasn't mentioned sooner. I really like the idea of this.

[The_Gabe]

 

 

Refershing to see someone with an 06 account creation date who still thinks JAGEx is on the way up. :twss:

 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I think you misread his post..

[miracleman58]

 

 

Refershing to see someone with an 06 account creation date who still thinks JAGEx is on the way up. :twss:

 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I think you misread his post..

 

I agree with you and personally i think its a stupid idea. Just make a new account and transfer money and train it, also becomes a back up account if your main is banned.

[stonewall337]

To the above: I think you missed the point. Its not JUST about making certain items BOA, or making it legal/easier to transfer items/ get assists between accounts, but also the mindset behind it: That a character must remain completely autonomous, you can interact with OTHER players, but you CAN NEVER interact between two of your own accounts.

[Sona]

Here's a related question after seeing Stonewall's post.

 

If Jagex bans a main for whatever reason, for instance, what could possibly justify them not banning the secondary account(s) in which you transferred wealth to? Do players really come back after the account they've worked for X years get banned?

[Yay0siris]

you can log two accounts in at once, just gotta press login on them both at the same time. i do that to trade between my accounts all the time. its MY items and MY accounts so i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to.

[essiw]

you can log two accounts in at once, just gotta press login on them both at the same time. i do that to trade between my accounts all the time. its MY items and MY accounts so i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to.

You are talking about two different rules right now.

First multiple logging is against the rules because you gain unfair advantage of playing two accounts at the same time (don't want to start a discussion about what advantage you gain, you gain an advantage and even if it is small it is still an advantage)

Then trading with your own accounts is against the rules mostly because it is considered dangerous for your account because you would have to drop trade, trust trade or multiple logging (and the last one is also against the rules). This is also why they don't ban that much for trading in between accounts.

[Yay0siris]

fine then ill get two people in my house hold to use 2 computers to trade. two people. no rule breaking.

 

i'll still do it my way because to me it isn't breaking the rules to log on with two accounts to trade my own items. why should i be punished and these dumb clans that price manipulate to gain money don't get punished?

[RoswellCrash]

fine then ill get two people in my house hold to use 2 computers to trade. two people. no rule breaking.

 

i'll still do it my way because to me it isn't breaking the rules to log on with two accounts to trade my own items. why should i be punished and these dumb clans that price manipulate to gain money don't get punished?

 

Using another person to trade items from one of your accounts to the other would mean your now account sharing.

 

But I agree multiple login & trading between your accounts isn't a big deal in my opinion. I wouldn't care if others did. I've asked a friend to give me full rune before on an account & traded him the rune bars on my main. Basically the same thing just with a middle man.

[Arthu]

There is BOA.

If you do certain quests, you'll be punished with extra tasks available from slayer masters.

If you level up defence, you won't be able to deal any more damage, but you'll be punished with extra combat levels which make you unable to battle certain levels in wilderness.

[essiw]

There is BOA.

If you do certain quests, you'll be punished with extra tasks available from slayer masters.

If you level up defence, you won't be able to deal any more damage, but you'll be punished with extra combat levels which make you unable to battle certain levels in wilderness.

Nice punishing lol, they are rewards, even if you don't like them, some people do. Most people like defence because it helps pvm.