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It's an attempt to redo RS combat. Some of it is fixes, like make 2h weapons useful, make the combat triangle relevant again, making protection prayers less OP, removing special attacks for adrenaline abilities, which make RS combat more modern, more skillful. Also to make it so combat can come down to personal preference rather then just certain options being better then the rest.

 

It's very complicated.

Pretty much sums up everything I asked and more, thanks. Sounds somewhat annoying to me, and I've seen a couple of YouTube videos of the Evolution of Combat and all I've had to hear about it was nasty reviews. Maybe 1 in every 500 people said something positive about it..

 

Give it a try yourself first. Play like you would in normal rs, do some slayer tasks, minigames etc, not just run to Lumbridge and grab all the free gear then alch spirit shields. Oh, and reserve judgement on things like Soulwars and Castlewars (directed more towards the former) as everyone is running around in max gear now, essentially the same as everyone wearing no armor which cuts out a big part of the update in that armor plays a huge role.

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Who checks the front page for beta news? Lol... there's a beta events forum you can visit DAYS before the event to see if it's a good event or not.

An events forum you can only view if you are logged in AND one the people with full-time beta access.

 

Anyways I have to agree its peoples own fault for missing it, certainly valid reasons have been wagered BUT all the same we have had an event every weekend, there's been a news post every weekend and we know that 4 of these weekends are to yield the outfit pieces. Certainly it may get shunted down the page or whatever but you should be fully aware thursday/friday a post about the event will appear in the recent news as it has every week thus far and as such should make the effort to look for it if you desire to earn the costume and it's not even like it's alot to look through as you can just skim headlines to find the one you want.

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Who checks the front page for beta news? Lol... there's a beta events forum you can visit DAYS before the event to see if it's a good event or not.

Would this be on the beta forum which is only accessible to players who have unrestricted beta access in the first place?

 

BTW, the RS toolbar is a far, far better way of viewing the newsposts.

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Who checks the front page for beta news? Lol... there's a beta events forum you can visit DAYS before the event to see if it's a good event or not.

An events forum you can only view if you are logged in AND one the people with full-time beta access.

 

Anyways I have to agree its peoples own fault for missing it, certainly valid reasons have been wagered BUT all the same we have had an event every weekend, there's been a news post every weekend and we know that 4 of these weekends are to yield the outfit pieces. Certainly it may get shunted down the page or whatever but you should be fully aware thursday/friday a post about the event will appear in the recent news as it has every week thus far and as such should make the effort to look for it if you desire to earn the costume and it's not even like it's alot to look through as you can just skim headlines to find the one you want.

Who checks the front page for beta news? Lol... there's a beta events forum you can visit DAYS before the event to see if it's a good event or not.

Would this be on the beta forum which is only accessible to players who have unrestricted beta access in the first place?

 

BTW, the RS toolbar is a far, far better way of viewing the newsposts.

 

No, as long as you're logged in you can view the events forum. Its SOLE PURPOSE is for non-beta people to submit feedback on the beta weekends. So they also give out the important info to the non-beta people.

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No, as long as you're logged in you can view the events forum. Its SOLE PURPOSE is for non-beta people to submit feedback on the beta weekends. So they also give out the important info to the non-beta people.

 

Ok. This is useful information. Thank you for sharing. I logged-on to the RS main site, then checked the forums and saw it there.

 

Fyi tho, the fact that you have to log onto the RS site and go to the forums to see that means it's very easy to miss. If you don't regularly go on the RSOF anyways, or get told about it by someone like you, I don't see how one would know if.

 

On the other hand, if one REALLY wants the outfit, it shouldn't be that hard to go looking for information on when to go on, or just try going on every like saturday and if you can go on, figure out what you need to do for the costume. You even get an in-game notification when you earn the outfit piece. (Sucks if something prevents you from going on RS during that time period however.

 

In case anyone is wondering, the next event is PC from the 3 to 6 of August.

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If you are penalized for attacking a monster with a weapon/style that isn’t their weakness, how will dungeoneering work for players with lower levels? Since lower leveled players may only bind one or two items, one can’t cover every attack style.

 

We are talking about making some changes to Dungeoneering currently to resolve this issue. The most likely change is that we will dramatically increase the number of bind slots at all levels.

 

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First time reading this FAQ. Just BTW, you can reach it from the home page without logging in.

 

Seems rather dramatic for them to do, especially since they've reduced the need to switch styles already...

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Well with the way armour works, we might need those bind slots for armour anyways.

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That would actually be weird still: having a full inventory of equipment at lv 120? At least I assume they will multiply the number of slots as to not make the advantage at lv 50, 100 & 120 less.

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That would actually be weird still: having a full inventory of equipment at lv 120? At least I assume they will multiply the number of slots as to not make the advantage at lv 50, 100 & 120 less.

Maybe just one weapon and one piece of armor per style, with higher levels allowing you to bind more?

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No, as long as you're logged in you can view the events forum. Its SOLE PURPOSE is for non-beta people to submit feedback on the beta weekends. So they also give out the important info to the non-beta people.

 

Ok. This is useful information. Thank you for sharing. I logged-on to the RS main site, then checked the forums and saw it there.

 

Fyi tho, the fact that you have to log onto the RS site and go to the forums to see that means it's very easy to miss. If you don't regularly go on the RSOF anyways, or get told about it by someone like you, I don't see how one would know if.

 

On the other hand, if one REALLY wants the outfit, it shouldn't be that hard to go looking for information on when to go on, or just try going on every like saturday and if you can go on, figure out what you need to do for the costume. You even get an in-game notification when you earn the outfit piece. (Sucks if something prevents you from going on RS during that time period however.

 

In case anyone is wondering, the next event is PC from the 3 to 6 of August.

Yeah, I mainly meant it for the people not knowing about beta weekends. If people care that much about not missing something important, just check that forum every weekend and see if they have to go participate in anything :).

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I'd love that. Would be nice to try out some different setups after eoc goes live, but I have hex so no way I'm going to destroy that which effectively locks me into range.

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I'm intrigued to how they will increase the binds. I could see it being done via restrictive binds, eg we get a 2nd ammo bind and maybe a couple of weapon only binds etc.

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Problem is that solo players will suffer from this if there's a "bind bank": they can't take multiple weapons into the dungeon then.

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Yes, a bind bank would be great. On top of that, allowing a "major bind" and "minor bind" would be equally good as it allows players to bind the smaller items normally ignored even if its primal (gloves and boots mainly). More variety while not being game breaking.

 

Problem is that solo players will suffer from this if there's a "bind bank": they can't take multiple weapons into the dungeon then.

A bind bank would not be about giving an advantage to anyone. Players would still be limited to number of binded weapons they can use in a dungeon as they are now. They're just able to switch out weapons/armor prior to starting that floor, instead of the current method of finding new items and rebinding them (very tedious for primal). This removes monotony in the skill by allowing players to try different points of the combat triangle and various set-ups. This could be done as a single player or party. Not sure how a single player suffers from this unless you're thinking of a different rule set-up

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It also means if you get lucky and find a primal item early, (before you can equip) you can save it in the bank. I hate that i keep finding primal stuff I can't use yet, but I know that once I get 99 it will feel like forever till I find the stuff I want.

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Tried to get spear, since for some reason spears are faster in DG than surface counterparts, but we got Hope everytime out of 6 or 7 dungeons.

 

I've done at least 30 solo smalls looking for spear and got hope or dreadnaught (rarely) every time. Pretty sure it's bugged.

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Tried to get spear, since for some reason spears are faster in DG than surface counterparts, but we got Hope everytime out of 6 or 7 dungeons.

 

I've done at least 30 solo smalls looking for spear and got hope or dreadnaught (rarely) every time. Pretty sure it's bugged.

 

That or it is rigged for beta purposes to help people get specific weapons.

Or perhaps even purposefully has certain bosses turned off/reduced as they haven't been looked over properly yet.

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That or it is rigged for beta purposes to help people get specific weapons.

Or perhaps even purposefully has certain bosses turned off/reduced as they haven't been looked over properly yet.

I'm hoping they just open up an equipment shop like the ones they have on the surface, once they get around to updating DG.

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That or it is rigged for beta purposes to help people get specific weapons.

Or perhaps even purposefully has certain bosses turned off/reduced as they haven't been looked over properly yet.

I'm hoping they just open up an equipment shop like the ones they have on the surface, once they get around to updating DG.

 

The DG bank i think is an idea we want to see in the live game. Obviously hope they open a dg item shop when testing out dg, hopefully people would be willing to test various setups that way.

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