Low Levelled Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Anyone have any good guesses on items that are going to become useless? I'm trying to figure out what is going to change with this whole combat thing. I'm not super active right now, and I'm not going to be trying the BETA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Dragon claws until the inevitable update that allows us to upgrade dragon claws into a higher tier of slash weapon. It'll probably happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Levelled Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 just looked up d claws.... that makes me want to cry :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooey C. Deschanel Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Claws / Chinchompas / and Royal Crossbows i heard will be useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Slayer helms, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Levelled Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Slayer helms, too. so then what would be the best helmet item for slayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooey C. Deschanel Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Void Armour aswell dont forget. Low HP boost Low Def and not as decent Attacking potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Slayer helms, too. so then what would be the best helmet item for slayer?Whatever the highest defensive helm is. Slayer helms lose their 7/6 bonuses. They'd still be used at spectres I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Levelled Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 this saddens me, i heard something about d defenders being awful as well. is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vezon Dash Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Slayer helms, too. so then what would be the best helmet item for slayer?Whatever the highest defensive helm is. Slayer helms lose their 7/6 bonuses. They'd still be used at spectres I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s Dragon boots will be largely outclassed by bandos boots if you have the defense level for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Arcane Stream Necklace will lose its damage % bonus and turn into a generic (but high) critical hit % bonus boost for Magic. 4.9%, as opposed to Fury's 4.4%. Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It's funny, because everyone automatically assumes that was is currently true in beta will remain true forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Arcane Stream Necklace will lose its damage % bonus and turn into a generic (but high) critical hit % bonus boost for Magic. 4.9%, as opposed to Fury's 4.4%.As of now, the amulet of ranging has the same bonus for its own class. They're the best single-class amulets.It's funny, because everyone automatically assumes that was is currently true in beta will remain true forever.Especially evident in items that clearly haven't had the right stats set yet. I'm pretty sure that Jagex hasn't come up with good/balanced stats for most unique items yet - Elite void currently just has its prayer bonus and a lot of quest weapons have damage and hit bonuses around 10 each. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 The general theme seems to be any armour that was primarily purchased/obtained for it's offensive bonuses (with a few exceptions like bandos) and also spec weapons will become outclassed until Jagex has a look at them again. Slayer helm not doing anything special except combining different slayer protections doesn't sit right with me at all. 10% more dmg on melee void will also probably be not worth it. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Void Armour aswell dont forget. Low HP boost Low Def and not as decent Attacking potentialVoid armour has decent enough health boost, it should still be useful for camping stuff for champion scrolls and whatnot. How useful the boost is depends on whether it applies to abilities or not. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think void and slayer helm are probably going to be dealt with later. I mean special effect items seem to be taking time to deal with, they only sorted of spirit shields after a week or so ago and last update sorted out barrows sets. Also the guy who said stream will be useless wtf? I'd call the best mage amulet stats wise in-game useful, even if the unique effect is gone. I mean yes Fury is some what close to it, but it's still worse than it (unless you really need hy/tribrid numbers. 1 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vezon Dash Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think void and slayer helm are probably going to be dealt with later. I mean special effect items seem to be taking time to deal with, they only sorted of spirit shields after a week or so ago and last update sorted out barrows sets. Also the guy who said stream will be useless wtf? I'd call the best mage amulet stats wise in-game useful, even if the unique effect is gone. I mean yes Fury is some what close to it, but it's still worse than it (unless you really need hy/tribrid numbers.But the real question is, does the fury's other bonuses make it outclass the stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think void and slayer helm are probably going to be dealt with later. I mean special effect items seem to be taking time to deal with, they only sorted of spirit shields after a week or so ago and last update sorted out barrows sets. Also the guy who said stream will be useless wtf? I'd call the best mage amulet stats wise in-game useful, even if the unique effect is gone. I mean yes Fury is some what close to it, but it's still worse than it (unless you really need hy/tribrid numbers.But the real question is, does the fury's other bonuses make it outclass the stream. Well as it stands it only has major offensive boons and nothing really towards defence (to my knowledge), therefore unless hy/tribridding the greater boon to mage/range from stream would still be better as boons to melee/range offence res useless to you then.And this is of course without even touching on availability with prices etc. Fury is out of reach for many until well after they can use it where as the stream is much easier and cheaper to obtain. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naive Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If all you're gonna be doing is maging, the stream is better, but if you're hybriding, fury would serve better. Same argument for amulet of ranging. Afaik fury only gives crit bonuses atm, nothing else. Requiescat in pace, Shiva "Anarith" Kumar.351 Quest Points|99 Strength|99 Attack|99 Constitution|99 Defence|99 Magic|138 Combat|99 Summoning|99 Slayer|99 Ranged|99 Firemaking|99 Dungeoneering|99 Cooking|99 Prayer|99 Runecrafting|99 Smithing|99 Fletching|99 Construction|99 Farming|99 Fishing|99 Herblore|99 Crafting|99 AgilityTrue friends are never separated by distance, for they are forever linked by their hearts.Join the HYT CLAN![qfc]90-91-310-65710712[/qfc] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Don't panic. This is only a beta, I'm sure many of these items will be changed for the better. 1 [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoth01 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 People are making guesses way TOO early. It's not probable that jagex downgrades items like slayer helm. If the exp rates are not getting any higher according to jagex, then no point on removing the bonus. Same with void, especially if you consider that void is useless for anything other than pure offensive setups. So you won't be doing boss hunting with it anymore, but you probably still want it for lower lvl monster camping. Defenders are also getting a revamp if you read the stuff some weeks ago, so clearing them out of the equation isn't worth, although I would risk saying that for melee purposes dungeoneering will remain on top for off-hands. You can for sure put things like bandos boots > dragon boots, but the amount of situations where this clearly is going to happen is very low. Mostly rings and amulets are areas which you can pretty much cover, but even then, we still need to wait for jagex to rebalance certain stats (amulet of defense/accuracy or avas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Most spec weapons are also probably going to be outclassed unless they massively buff their damage (which is unlikely). Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Most spec weapons are also probably going to be outclassed unless they massively buff their damage (which is unlikely). I'd love it if weapons could have their own special attacks again. But perhaps they would "power up" existing abilities, giving them new animations, effects etc. For example, an Armadyl Godsword could power up the "pulverize" ultimate to do even more damage, along with a new animation. Dragon claws get a powered up "flurry" ability. Korasi's sword might add magical damage to an ability. You get the idea. 1 [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I believe a lot of the special effects on items haven't yet been added, but will be (void, slayer helm) Spec weapons won't be as good. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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