Saradomin_Mage Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!Of course their servers keeps detailed logs. Insanely detailed, in fact: In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!I never understood that. For as long as I can remember, Jagex has claimed to keep extensive logs on how items make their way through the community, to track down gold buyers and sellers and mule accounts, yet they also claimed for a long time to be unable to help people who lose items due to bugs because they are unable to tell who is lying. No. They can tell who is lying, it's just that so many people think it's cute to lie that it's incredibly labor-intensive to wade through every request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Rayne Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Jagex pisses me off recently. I'll just leave it at that. I'm still a devoted player but there attention to game detail and what we want is really lacking. They are finally starting to realize the real problem and actually basing ideas on actual player wants, and let me tell you its about time considering there player base is dropping as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecuttingyews Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!Of course their servers keeps detailed logs. Insanely detailed, in fact: From that it almost seems they keep too much information to be able to refund every request. Just imagine trying to dig through a log of every click a player makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It seems more like they can replay what happened in a cutscene-type thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It seems more like they can replay what happened in a cutscene-type thing Like those black-boxes from airplanes. They too hold an enormous amount of data, however most of the time they can connect it to a server-like thing that can read out the data stored inside the black-box. It will then replay said data in a sort of simulation. I think something similar is happening here, just no need to connect a box to a server or something. It definitely makes things easier. Especially from a player viewpoint. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well I was mostly joking. Anyways likely it is because of having to sort through every lie to find truths.. If too many are lies what's the value of finding the losses? I have to agree with Saradomin Mage. It would take too much time to verify requests. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!I never understood that. For as long as I can remember, Jagex has claimed to keep extensive logs on how items make their way through the community, to track down gold buyers and sellers and mule accounts, yet they also claimed for a long time to be unable to help people who lose items due to bugs because they are unable to tell who is lying.No. They can tell who is lying, it's just that so many people think it's cute to lie that it's incredibly labor-intensive to wade through every request. Easy solution: Permaban people who are obviously lying, with no opportunity to appeal. Throw that warning into the header and you'll see the fake requests dry up fast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!I never understood that. For as long as I can remember, Jagex has claimed to keep extensive logs on how items make their way through the community, to track down gold buyers and sellers and mule accounts, yet they also claimed for a long time to be unable to help people who lose items due to bugs because they are unable to tell who is lying.No. They can tell who is lying, it's just that so many people think it's cute to lie that it's incredibly labor-intensive to wade through every request. Easy solution: Permaban people who are obviously lying, with no opportunity to appeal. Throw that warning into the header and you'll see the fake requests dry up fast. A little over-the-top, but it'd work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It needs to be harsh - both out of fairness to all the real cases out there and to deter frivolous claims. False claims should definitely lead to a small suspension on the first time. Second time or higher, then it should be months or more at a time. I imagine if pinned to the wall on this detailed system, they'd probably try to say that only oldschool has a system like that. '-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!!I never understood that. For as long as I can remember, Jagex has claimed to keep extensive logs on how items make their way through the community, to track down gold buyers and sellers and mule accounts, yet they also claimed for a long time to be unable to help people who lose items due to bugs because they are unable to tell who is lying.No. They can tell who is lying, it's just that so many people think it's cute to lie that it's incredibly labor-intensive to wade through every request. Easy solution: Permaban people who are obviously lying, with no opportunity to appeal. Throw that warning into the header and you'll see the fake requests dry up fast. A little over-the-top, but it'd work Think of it as a deterrent. I'd rather see a few jackasses get banned than have Jagex summarily close the thread every time their mediocre bug testing causes people to lose items, complaining about the number of false claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Mage Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And it assumes their server keeps detailed logs. It should, but you know.. JAGEX!!!! I never understood that. For as long as I can remember, Jagex has claimed to keep extensive logs on how items make their way through the community, to track down gold buyers and sellers and mule accounts, yet they also claimed for a long time to be unable to help people who lose items due to bugs because they are unable to tell who is lying. The sad thing is that this code is barely a year and a half old, added after the crucible/duel arena GP dupes You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 whoops, wrong thread carry on *sweat* (the issue with even having a system like this is people would still not actually stop sending false claims since they'll be using accounts they don't care about in the chance that somebody will slip up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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