Jonanananas Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Oh yeah, misread that. They were in the black for non-exceptional activities though. If only I spoke lawyer and unerstood that those 3 major expenses were.... " From the report The operatlonal results for the 9 month penod have been significantly impacted by a number of one-off exceptlonalcharges as highlighted below - US Operatlons: Jagex establlshed a subsidiary in the United States as part of a wider group strategy to expandthe range of games produced. Significant costs were incurred In the US ln pursuit of outstandlng talent andintellectual property. By the year end the few projects that were considered the most viable were chosen andthe remainingg activities were ceased. Jagex expensed all costs incurred ln the US. Additonally, due to thecurtailment of operatlons ln the US, a lease commitment became onerous. An onerous lease provision hasbeen recognised in respect of this - New Cambridge Office: Jagex has taken a number of steps to improve the working environment foremployees and allow for future growth This included the relocation from two separate buildings into onemain office, housing all Cambridge employees. Consequently an onerous lease provision has been recordedfor the vacant property - Change of Control liabilty: There was a change of control of Jagex Limited in December 2010. As a result ofthat transaction, the Company took on a liability to founding shareholders totalling £7.7 m which wasexpensed fully ln the financial period." So...I'm not an expert with this but most of it really sounds like one-off costs. They invested in development in the USA, moved into the new office. I'm not quite sure I understand the last part. Did Andrew, Paul etc. get money from Jagex after selling their shares? Did the investors pay with the money the product they bought generated? This is weird...(But I'm really not familiar with a lot of these financial terms) There is a lot of information in that report, I can't get much out of it unfortunately. The other two interesting things I saw were this: Analysis of Turnover (I'll give a percentage compared to last year, of course with the 9 months compared to a year respected) Game time sales: 31,893,489 (97% compared to last year)Advertising Revenue: 782,870 (70% compared to last year)Other income: 228,618 (2180% compared to last year) In total: 32,905,077 (97% compared to last year) At first I thought Other income were microtransactions, but even with the giant raise compared to last year, it still wouldn't be a lot. So maybe it's in with Game time sales, though I wonder what the other income is then. Also, not that it matters much but I found it interesting/funny: "The Group made charltable donatlons amounting to £207 dunng the perlod (year to 31 March 2011 - £150,076)Donations were made to a number of local and US based charities" Overall, with my limited understanding of things I'd say they're doing okay but not with a positive outlook. Investing will be good I guess, but the fact that altogether it got them almost a loss of ten million seems a little desparate, a move to get ahead in the playing field again before they completely fall behind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecuttingyews Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Analysis of Turnover (I'll give a percentage compared to last year, of course with the 9 months compared to a year respected)Game time sales: 31,893,489 (97% compared to last year)Advertising Revenue: 782,870 (70% compared to last year)Other income: 228,618 (2180% compared to last year)At first I thought Other income were microtransactions, but even with the giant raise compared to last year, it still wouldn't be a lot. So maybe it's in with Game time sales, though I wonder what the other income is then.It's good to see P2P sales are more or less the same as the previous year.Ad revenue dropping is most likely because F2P is dead. Years of neglect has really forced F2P from being it's own segment of the game to a temporary place where people either move on to P2P or quit entirely. Jagex did restart video ads before login for F2P in 2012, so that number will likely rise next statement.I haven't a clue what 'Other income' is. IIRC microtransactions only started with the SOF which was early 2012, so not included in this statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What about the t-shirts, mugs and the other rubbish? 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer205 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Other income is likely not related at all to the business of making video games, if they have any investments etc this is where interest from them would be listed. Onerous lease basically means that if they were to break the lease agreements for the buildings they had to begin with the penalties in the clause would be high enough that it's just worth them keeping the lease and letting it expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 The report's finally out...3 months+ late. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5iRY6C8tGKLcGhlblVoN1hkbUE/edit They had bad numbers indeed. From a basic skim, they had a 9.5 million pound loss for the year. They still have about 10 million pounds of funds left. They made a point of including a seperate, not required pstt of the report basically saying how successful they were until March of the year (6mil pound profit) but for the whole year still managed to come out 9.5 mil in the red. I don't actually remember what happened around mar 2011... The people at stellar dawn central will probably read a lot more deeper into everything and write their analysis. The fiscal year ended Mar, so the 9 months is between Mar and Dec..that's the 9.5 mil pound loss. So however you look at it, Jagex was in the red that year. Someone needs to dig up exactly what happened Mar-Dec 2011 You mean april (year ends with march, so new year starts with April) I do remember what happened on April 2nd though:SoF EDIT: NVM, was 2012 Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 What possible relevance would it have had even if you'd bothered to check if the year was correct? | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest_Cape_K Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 The report's finally out...3 months+ late. https://docs.google....lVoN1hkbUE/edit They had bad numbers indeed. From a basic skim, they had a 9.5 million pound loss for the year. They still have about 10 million pounds of funds left. They made a point of including a seperate, not required pstt of the report basically saying how successful they were until March of the year (6mil pound profit) but for the whole year still managed to come out 9.5 mil in the red. I don't actually remember what happened around mar 2011... The people at stellar dawn central will probably read a lot more deeper into everything and write their analysis. The fiscal year ended Mar, so the 9 months is between Mar and Dec..that's the 9.5 mil pound loss. So however you look at it, Jagex was in the red that year. Someone needs to dig up exactly what happened Mar-Dec 2011 You mean april (year ends with march, so new year starts with April) I do remember what happened on April 2nd though:SoF EDIT: NVM, was 2012You seriously hate SOF that much? Were connections just made instantly in your head when you see money and Jagex together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 There's none so blind as those who do not wish to see. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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