sean_no1 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Over the next few weeks im am aiming to ger a barrows kill count of between 5 and 10k. Why am I doing this some may ask? Well I want to prove how much the barrows kill count increases your chances of rare items from the chest. Since I am only lv 95 this might take a while. I dont think I will get rare items but its worth a shot. Location: Barrows World: 58 Kil Count: 0 I will take screen shots every now and then jsut to let you see how it is going. Please wish me the best of luck and all donations are greatly apreciated. I am 13 years old so I dont spend all my time playing RS. A screenie of me! (I look Nooby coz I lost torag and Whip. Nathan knows the story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taito2004 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Been done before, i made a post about it liek an hour ago, look towards the bottom of the page.. 92/99 Fishing | 119/120 Combat | 92/99 Firemaking | 94/99 Fletching | 1878/1900 Total | 85/85 Slayer | 80/80 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvdv_belgium Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Some one else did it already ;) He had a KC of 9999, and he just got some junk of the chest :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver24-7 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 lol arent u original ? its fine to get an high kill count but its of no use has been tested before :) I'm Finally 99 mage ^^ (and cooking...) :PSilver24-7 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Want to really try? Do 500 runs with 6 kc (brothers) and 500 runs with 20 kc. (including brothers) :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbitten Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I would be willing to bet my account that the formula for kill count vs. items has a radical in it. meaning the more you kill the less each one brings up the chances of getting a good item but still brings it up some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deangut Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Good luck... Just a heads up... It's confirmed and not confirmed and confirmed again that Killcount doesn't barrow drops but RARE drops (Meanin DMED and half keys) I would sugest you kill Bloods down there to up you chances of bloods. And kill all 6 bros (Only thing that helps chances of Barrow items) Other then that this is another one of 1mil Killcount posts.. Goodluck barrowers!! aND SEE YOU IN WOLRD 9 OR 48 @ - Come Join SoDB in Some GWD and other Slaying! - @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Want to really try? Do 500 runs with 6 kc (brothers) and 500 runs with 20 kc. (including brothers) Yes, any less will not have enough data for an accurate comparison. And the dude that killed 9999 on one run doesn't prove anything. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laps9 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I think this is how the system works but it's probably wrong: You kill all 6 barrows brothers and say 20 other things. 2 of the monsters you killed (brother or other things) are randomly selected and their drop is placed in the chest along with all other drops of that item so the server selects karil and a skeleton, karil drops a coif but nothing else could have so only one goes in the chest, the skeleton drops 8 chaos runes but you've also killed many monsters which dropped them so you get 432. Ofcourse this doesn't explain that sometimes you get chaos, deaths and mind runes as well as gp. put him in jail Then i'll just wait for him to drop the e-soap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Want to really try? Do 500 runs with 6 kc (brothers) and 500 runs with 20 kc. (including brothers) Yes, any less will not have enough data for an accurate comparison. And the dude that killed 9999 on one run doesn't prove anything.Exactly. I was thinking Leesters, how about you and me take up this job? One of us does 20 kc, the other does 6? 500 runs, we record every run, then when we're done, I pm my results to you, and you make a post of it? Good luck... Just a heads up... It's confirmed and not confirmed and confirmed again that Killcount doesn't barrow drops but RARE drops (Meanin DMED and half keys) I would sugest you kill Bloods down there to up you chances of bloods. And kill all 6 bros (Only thing that helps chances of Barrow items) Other then that this is another one of 1mil Killcount posts.. Goodluck barrowers!! aND SEE YOU IN WOLRD 9 OR 48Don't post if you have no idea what you're talking about. :roll: :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aafftteerr Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Good luck... Just a heads up... It's confirmed and not confirmed and confirmed again that Killcount doesn't barrow drops but RARE drops (Meanin DMED and half keys) I would sugest you kill Bloods down there to up you chances of bloods. And kill all 6 bros (Only thing that helps chances of Barrow items) Other then that this is another one of 1mil Killcount posts.. Goodluck barrowers!! aND SEE YOU IN WOLRD 9 OR 48 I tried that already....did about 20 runs with killing no bloods and still 12 out of 20 runs got bloods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Good luck... Just a heads up... It's confirmed and not confirmed and confirmed again that Killcount doesn't barrow drops but RARE drops (Meanin DMED and half keys) I would sugest you kill Bloods down there to up you chances of bloods. And kill all 6 bros (Only thing that helps chances of Barrow items) Other then that this is another one of 1mil Killcount posts.. Goodluck barrowers!! aND SEE YOU IN WOLRD 9 OR 48 I tried that already....did about 20 runs with killing no bloods and still 12 out of 20 runs got bloodsFrom my experiences, blood worms give a slight increase to chaos runes, skeletons give the most deaths and bloods. :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I'd love to do the 500 runs with 6 KC, if that could help. :D You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taito2004 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 a few people should do 100 runs with just 6 KC, then we could work out some kind of average maybe even do kill counts 6-26 (as most poeple say 26+ is pointless. I know it wud be a lot, but think of how many people go to barrows every day any ways.. It sure would be interesting if we had 500 Results for 6Kc, 7 KC, 8 Kc, 9 KC etc. 92/99 Fishing | 119/120 Combat | 92/99 Firemaking | 94/99 Fletching | 1878/1900 Total | 85/85 Slayer | 80/80 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Valor Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I'd be happy to do a few as well. I barrow faster than most because I use the General Store and pray pot method. Costs more but I get a few drops every day if i'm on a few good hours - My skills are now really, really lame ! Time to fix that! - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsword33 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would be willing to bet my account that the formula for kill count vs. items has a radical in it. meaning the more you kill the less each one brings up the chances of getting a good item but still brings it up some finally i see a math genius think like me! *sigh* better start working on proving quadratic formulas...anyways, people try this all the time and never get anything really good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru89 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would be willing to bet my account that the formula for kill count vs. items has a radical in it. meaning the more you kill the less each one brings up the chances of getting a good item but still brings it up some finally i see a math genius think like me! *sigh* better start working on proving quadratic formulas...anyways, people try this all the time and never get anything really good... Yeah I'm a math wiz too... but I choose not to display it on here ;)... Your idea is a VERY STRONG possibility Dru89's Last.fmDru89's TIF Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhoggx7 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I would be willing to bet my account that the formula for kill count vs. items has a radical in it. meaning the more you kill the less each one brings up the chances of getting a good item but still brings it up some finally i see a math genius think like me! *sigh* better start working on proving quadratic formulas...anyways, people try this all the time and never get anything really good... Yeah I'm a math wiz too... but I choose not to display it on here ;)... Your idea is a VERY STRONG possibility So basically you guys think that the kill count is perhaps like exponential decay, where y=0 is NOT getting a barrows item? Its a minigame. The first person to catch him gets a Klondike Bar and a handshake from Chuck Norris. Watch out those 2 combined may have adverse effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMaivia Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 ...I think all they are saying that there is a square root in the formula that would make the graph of the probability of getting a barrows item with increased kill count look like this: Edit: The forum program did not keep the format of my graph i made, but it starts steep and then levels off gradually. So yeah, i dunno if you can make out the graph or not, kill count increases along the x axis and probability of getting barrows item increases along y axis. So yeah, raising kill count would raise probility of getting barrows item, but the armount it increases it lessens as you go up in kc, and eventually it essentially levels off with a high kill count. That being said, personally i don't think kc is involved, but whatever, hehe. Also, don't say "this has been done before", because as anyone who knows stats or research knows, the more data and studies done, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 someone sit in a room with guthans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussy4321 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Good luck... Just a heads up... It's confirmed and not confirmed and confirmed again that Killcount doesn't barrow drops but RARE drops (Meanin DMED and half keys) I would sugest you kill Bloods down there to up you chances of bloods. And kill all 6 bros (Only thing that helps chances of Barrow items) Other then that this is another one of 1mil Killcount posts.. Goodluck barrowers!! aND SEE YOU IN WOLRD 9 OR 48 I tried that already....did about 20 runs with killing no bloods and still 12 out of 20 runs got bloodsFrom my experiences, blood worms give a slight increase to chaos runes, skeletons give the most deaths and bloods. I've tried killing the large crypt rats and spiders and get bloods and deaths then when killing the low level rats i get minds + chaos So i agree with the getting lower runes with lower monsters etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8ermsu784 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I've only killed the brothers when I go(I've been 33 times) and I have gotten 2 verac's skirt and 1 Ahrims staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnikon12 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 i'e been 38 times and on my 33rd and 34th trip i got guthans helm and torags legs each time gettin a kill count of 17-26 killin skeles and bloodworms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgansdachshunds Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Between my son and I, we have over 1000 runs killing 6 brothers each time. The drop rate comes out to about 1 drop for every 64 brothers killed. Also after a kill count of 15 to 20, the number of runes you receive seams to tail off drastically. Kmorgan and Yo Craigy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tewas Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 a few people should do 100 runs with just 6 KC, then we could work out some kind of average maybe even do kill counts 6-26 (as most poeple say 26+ is pointless. I know it wud be a lot, but think of how many people go to barrows every day any ways.. It sure would be interesting if we had 500 Results for 6Kc, 7 KC, 8 Kc, 9 KC etc. all we need is organized group. and 100 runs won't be accurate. i would say at least 500 each and every time get same exact kill count. so that would take at least 20 people who would do runs on assigned kill count. what would be better if there would be 2-4 people assigned to do same kill count for 500 runs. sounds imposible? but from 10-40k runs we could make educated calculations if kc increases chance or not to get barrows piece of equipment. so far there is only leesters data , what is quite accurate, everyone else doens't have enoug data to do anything 1500+ total 89 cmb; 1600+ total and under 93 cmb. 02/04/07 reached all skills 60+ under lvl 90 cmb. 07/19/07 reached all skills 70+ at lvl 93 cmb.Prayer is good for herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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