Pros of slayer dart:

 

 

 

1 death rune per cast

 

4 minds (but minds are cheap if you craft yourself)

 

Moderately high damage. After 60 (?) every 10 mage levels adds one point of damage (not sure about the starting level but i know its true as i have seen a person do 19 with Slayer dart

 

 

 

Cons of slayer dart:

 

 

 

Prayer is needed on all brothers

 

Chest might no refill the minds and deaths enough (happened on my last 50 p-pots ended up about down 200 deaths and down 1300 minds)

 

Damage isn't as high as ancient magicks

 

 

 

 

 

Pros of Ancient magicks:

 

 

 

High damage

 

Prayer isn't needed on all the brothers

 

Teleport to Cannafis for quick walk back

 

 

 

Cons of Ancient makicks:

 

 

 

Prayer pots are still needed on Kharil and Ahrim

 

Runes from chest won't cover the amount of deaths and chaos you use

 

Water staff (what most use) doesn't give as much mage boost as slayer staff (I think this is right 15mage for slayer right?)

 

Food is used more if you miss a cast

 

If you fail to hit on dharock and he is at low hps you are dead

 

 

 

 

 

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Anyway I am currently debateing which way is better...

 

 

 

I have tried out slayer dart in 50 p-pots (375k)

 

 

 

The loot was as follows

 

Ahrims staff (100k?)

 

520 bloods (312k @ 600 ea)

 

825 chaos (124k @ 150 ea )

 

900 something bolt racks ( 180k @ 200 ea) [ not sure the price on

 

these things is that righ? ]

 

 

 

Totle profit of 341,000 gps (rounded some)

 

Totle profit counting the gps from the chest = 347,000 gps

 

 

 

Now i currently have 7.6 million gps sold my pumpkin :D (only bought it for 3.2 woots) Anyway i am trying to decide... Buy 5416 ice bursts with it... (useing 6.5 million) And then buy about 100 p-pots with the rest of the cast to take care of Ahrim and Kharil

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

Buying 1,000 p-pots and use slayer dart like i have been...

 

 

 

 

 

Now with 5416 ice bursts lets say i use 75 casts per run thats only 72 runs from barrows...

 

 

 

however if i go ahead and buy the p-pots i normally use about 3-4 per run... which equals roughly 250 runs...

 

 

 

Am i adding something wrong...?

 

 

 

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Anyway in conclusion

 

wouldn't buying p-pots be the most cost efficent way to barrow as you get more runs for your money?

 

 

 

Why would anyone want to acient mage it???

Cons of slayer dart:

 

 

 

Prayer is needed on all brothers

 

 

 

apparently you don't know how to do barrows runs properly with the dart....i only pray on dharok and use what's left on karil. the rest i just use safe corners or wear rune instead of robes. no prayer potions used whatsoever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cons of Ancient makicks:

 

 

 

Prayer pots are still needed on Kharil and Ahrim not entirely true

 

Runes from chest won't cover the amount of deaths and chaos you use also not entirely true

 

Water staff (what most use) doesn't give as much mage boost as slayer staff (I think this is right 15mage for slayer right?)it's 12

 

Food is used more if you miss a cast

 

If you fail to hit on dharock and he is at low hps you are dead not true, to most extents, he doesn't always hit

 

 

 

 

my comments are in blue

 

 

 

 

 

it really isn't bad either way if you know how to do it efficiently.

I use fire bolt..

 

 

 

Pros:

 

I get runes back everytime, Plus more.

 

Only use 3 air runes per cast. (with fire staff)

 

Can hit 15's with the chaos gauntlets.

 

 

 

Cons:

 

Prayer is needed on all melee brothers that you choose to pray on.

I only pray on Dharok, Verac, and Karil. I wear Torags on Guthan and Torag, and I wear dragonhide on Ahrim and range him. And yes, I use slayer dart. I bring house tele runes and bank in Canifis after every run.

 

 

 

And: I only use 1 dose per run. 2 if I get unlucky and can't hit. 3 if I get Dharok, Verac, or Karil in the tunnels.

bursting not that bad actually i can do a trip using an average of 50 spells a trip, use around 4 lobs and using 2 doses of a preyer max (thats if i come full preyer ready). also with 20kc u get a good amount of runes back i can make 1k spells last 40-50 trips

Cons of slayer dart:

 

 

 

Prayer is needed on all brothers

 

 

 

apparently you don't know how to do barrows runs properly with the dart....i only pray on dharok and use what's left on karil. the rest i just use safe corners or wear rune instead of robes. no prayer potions used whatsoever.

 

 

 

You still don't know how to either...

 

 

 

You start out praying on Dharok, Pray on Karil. If you have over 25 Points left, kill verac... Put on armour, Kill guthan\torag. Then put hides on and range ahrim. Simple!!

 

 

 

Only use prayer dose if Karil is Tunnel.

 

 

 

The Simple Way to Remember this...

 

 

 

Dangerous Brothers: Dharok, Karil, Verac

 

Semi-Hard Brothers: Torag, Guthan, Ahrim

Cons of slayer dart:

 

 

 

Prayer is needed on all brothers

 

 

 

apparently you don't know how to do barrows runs properly with the dart....i only pray on dharok and use what's left on karil. the rest i just use safe corners or wear rune instead of robes. no prayer potions used whatsoever.

 

 

 

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I don't like useing 24 food before going into the tunnels...

 

 

 

I have done it that way but disliked it very much because if on of the brothers starts hitting good and uses your prayer pot you are sunk...

 

 

 

then its a looong walk back...

I've used slayer dart for all of my runs except for about 20 wher I used ancients. Personally, I wasn't impressed by ancients when using it for barrows. The way I do it is... prayer on verac, dharok, and karil. I then take out arhims, drinking 1 dose of super restore and kill torag with that. With guthan I rarely use prayer but, sometimes I do if I'm low on food and don't want to make a quick run to the store to restock on supplies.

 

 

 

Mine may not be the most efficient, but it's the way I do it.

i only use 2-4 doses of p pots using slayer dart :-#

The way I do it with ancients is virtually free. I melee Karils first, kill him in about 5 or sometimes 10 pray points. Melee Ahrims, kill him in about 10 or so pray points. I switch to mage gear, finish off the rest of my pray points on Dharok using Ice Burst. When I kill him I am usually out of pray points or have a few left over. Then I kill Verac, Torag, and Guthan with Ice burst while hiding behind tomb. I only have to use a dose of pray pot if Kharil is my tunnel. I usually only use about 80 deaths and 160 chaos during a trip and I'd say about 80% of the time I get all of them back in the chest. Then I tele to lumby with a tele tablet, fill pray, tele to Canafis, repeat. Each trip takes about 5-10 minutes. And I have a lot better luck with Ancients than with slayer dart, ive gotten 17 items at Barrows with Ancients and 3 of them were Guthan Warspears. :D

 

 

 

Mr Blasty33

I only pray on Dharok, Verac, and Karil. I wear Torags on Guthan and Torag, and I wear dragonhide on Ahrim and range him. And yes, I use slayer dart. I bring house tele runes and bank in Canifis after every run.

 

 

 

And: I only use 1 dose per run. 2 if I get unlucky and can't hit. 3 if I get Dharok, Verac, or Karil in the tunnels.

 

 

 

That's how I do it, down to the amount of doses and situations, with the exception of using Guthans instead of Torags.

Not entirely true..Slayer dart is very effective, and you end up spending more on Ancients because of Waters and deaths..It takes up more deaths than slayer dart, usually I have to buy more when using Ancients, not to metion Waters..And at 80 Magic(What most barrow'ers have) you hit 18 for a less costing, more effective way of doing the barrows..I end up using (2) Doses of prayer potion using Slayer dart.

 

 

 

I use 1 dose with ancients( 2 doses if Dharok, or Karil are tunnel) Dose of prayer potion for ancients, not much of an inprovement in my mind.. I think that in turn, Slayer dart is best, Ancients also cost me to use more Lobsters than normal(I do 2 chests without tele'ing with 10 lobsters)

 

By the time i'm done with my 2 chests I'm out of lobsters and when I bank I have to take a few extra out just to heal back up to full HP again..

 

 

 

Note: I don't mind using up the lobsters because I have piles of em..I'm just saying..

 

 

 

EDIT: Ancients uses more food because if you miss a shot, then the bro moves, he'll attack you and usually hit you( If you use Mystic, Ahrims can block it mostly :D )

If you have 80+ def and guthans you can take every barrows brother but veracs and dh without prayer outside the tunnel. Inside the tunnel in the NE corner room there are several safe spots. Little to no p pos used with SD.

So basically, if you have high defence SD is better?

I can use 0 to 4 doses of prayer pot. It all depends on who is in the tunnels and when I run into them. Slayer Dart.

The prayer needed for slayer dart isnt true, at least not for me, I can do it without prayer :twisted:

Since there's construction, there's another Pro to SD, con to Ancs - You can have a Kharyrll teleport in your house! (I have one :D). That's why using SD makes it better!

 

 

 

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With Burgh De Rot you don't need to tele :P Unless you get great reward and don't wanna risk running around/want to tele for prayer

Well, if you use 2 doses per rune like I do, Slayer Dart is the best option without question.

i rarley use any prayer pots at barrows and i use slayer dart but that might be because im 82 def and 82 mage i dunno

The prayer needed for slayer dart isnt true, at least not for me, I can do it without prayer :twisted:

 

 

 

Lmao cheater..Your prayer is so high you could kill all 3 bros that require prayer and have 30 prayer left over -.-

Well after being 3 hit by guthan and losing ahrims while using ice burst, i'm a little cautious and I stuck with md :oops:

The prayer needed for slayer dart isnt true, at least not for me, I can do it without prayer :twisted:

 

 

 

Lmao cheater..Your prayer is so high you could kill all 3 bros that require prayer and have 30 prayer left over -.-

 

 

 

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking... :x

i only use 2-4 doses of p pots using slayer dart :-#

 

 

 

 

 

i hear ya brother!

 

 

 

I just pretty much use the tip it method for slayer dart

I use Charge + Flames of Zamorak, and I've never failed to make a profit before.

 

 

 

Spells cost - 2 Bloods, 4 Fires, 1 Air

 

Gp Cost: 1,300 per cast

 

 

 

Prayer cost - 2 doses per barrows run

 

Gp Cost: 4k per run

 

 

 

I use about 40 spells per trip, so total rune cost is 52k per trip. Add prayer pot cost and the odd lobster or cheese potato, and my expenses for barrows runs come to (we'll round) 55k per trip. In order to cover that I need:

 

 

 

185 deaths per trip (possible)

 

370 chaos per trip (possible)

 

220 bolt racks per trip (unlikely)

 

A barrows item.

 

 

 

The only time I ever make a -profit- is when I get a barrows item, but I at least break even most of the time.

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