Who knows the difference between Liberals and Conservatives?

[runesmithie]

Every where I go I find people that don't seem to have the slightest clue of what it means to be a Liberal or a Conservative, just that being Liberal is "cool"...

 

 

 

For those outside of the know, Liberals are generally trying to have less laws and Conservatives are trying to get more laws. It's as simple as that! Now you can go hit the gravy train and tell your friends! Huzzah! You're now enlightened!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can buy your diploma for $100 payable to Runesmithie

[Tigra00]

Conservatives cry about the Bible.

 

 

 

Liberals cry out.

 

 

 

Just made that up. It may or may not be true. Okay, the first statement is.

[runesmithie]

Conservatives cry about the Bible.

 

 

 

Liberals cry out.

 

 

 

Just made that up. It may or may not be true. Okay, the first statement is.

 

 

 

Way to be ignorant. I applaud you! =D>

[Tigra00]

Conservatives cry about the Bible.

 

 

 

Liberals cry out.

 

 

 

Just made that up. It may or may not be true. Okay, the first statement is.

 

 

 

Way to be ignorant. I applaud you! =D>

 

 

 

You're welcome!

[knives669]

*raises hand* I do! I'm not much into politics though. It's just one big headache. -.-

[katha610]

i do too. so what? you want everyone of us to tell you what it is now? just kidding. i know what you mean. well just let them be cool, most of them have no idea what theyre talking about

[Necromagus]

Liberals generally focus on expanding freedoms (freedom to read what you want, freedom to marry who you want, etc.), while conservatives generally aim to conserve what they consider to be 'wholesome traditional values' like marriage between a man and a woman, woman's first duty is to her family, etc.. Most of the times these values are based in the bible, but not always.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Conservatism and liberalism? What in the world? Am I the only one who hasn't hard of this stuff...?

[weezcake]

Generally, liberals tend to increase the power of government. Conservatives tend to decrease the power of government. I believe that is the basis of the two terms, but if you add in values and beliefs, then it gets a lot more complicated :x

[runesmithie]

Generally, liberals tend to increase the power of government. Conservatives tend to decrease the power of government. I believe that is the basis of the two terms, but if you add in values and beliefs, then it gets a lot more complicated :x

 

 

 

I think it's sort of the opposite? Unless more regulations/laws != more power?

 

 

 

And thanks Necro for a better definition.

[weezcake]

Generally, liberals tend to increase the power of government. Conservatives tend to decrease the power of government. I believe that is the basis of the two terms, but if you add in values and beliefs, then it gets a lot more complicated :x

 

 

 

I think it's sort of the opposite? Unless more regulations/laws != more power?

 

 

 

And thanks Necro for a better definition.

 

 

 

Er, I was thinking more economically. Liberals tend to increase the power of the government (to regulate businesses and keep them under control with laws and such). Conservatives tend to keep the government out of business since they usually favor laissez-faire (free market) economics.

 

 

 

But yes, liberalism is based on natural human goodness and the idea that a government is in place at the consent of the governed (which is why many of them fight for civil rights and such). Conservatism usually stems from a distrust for the common man (federalist papers!) and tends to keep the status quo.

 

 

 

It's all complicated. That's why I don't like labeling people/parties as "liberal" or "conservative". The label doesn't catch everything that party is fighting for :P

[Militaris]

Quite simply. Conservatives are against change, liberals are for increase freedoms.

 

 

 

What you said weezcake is not entirely accurate.

 

 

 

A liberal economic policy would support the deregulation of business, less government power, and lower taxes (Increase freedoms). While a pure conservative policy would change nothing and keep the status quo.

 

 

 

In reality the terms are used all over the place (and often wrongly). Often socialist parties having liberal social policy but conservative economic policy.

 

 

 

While, it is quite common for traditional 'right wing' (a term I hate) parties to have conservative social policy but a liberal economic policy.

 

 

 

Globally there are a few 'pure' liberal parties. They are quite common in the old soviet states in eastern Europe where the populations have been forced to live under the intense regulations of the communist regimes. Now they want more freedoms.

[Bubsa]

(From a UK perspective) I know the fundamental differences between the two ideologies, but if you're asking the difference between the two parties, let me tell you: there isn't any.

[icantcmyeye]

A conservative is one who prefers older teachings and ideals and does not want change. However, oddly enough the conservatives have caused the most fundamental change in government policy we have seen in a century.

 

 

 

A liberal is one who is open to trying new things out, or in government terms, one who is willing to make frequent changes to government law.

[Tigra00]

Liberals generally focus on expanding freedoms (freedom to read what you want, freedom to marry who you want, etc.), while conservatives generally aim to conserve what they consider to be 'wholesome traditional values' like marriage between a man and a woman, woman's first duty is to her family, etc.. Most of the times these values are based in the bible, but not always.

 

 

 

Exactly. As I said, Conservatives cry about the Bible, and Liberals just cry out period. Cry out for changes, usually for that bettering of our future, not for sticking to our past. We should be taught our history - we shouldn't have to LIVE in it. All that Republican's have to hold onto so far is slandering Democrat's with their "cut and run" as they call it strategy on getting out of Iraq, which is BS. I find it funny, watching the news...How many straws they have to grasp to get people thinking they're party still has any place in the white house next year...If I had to put money on it, I would say their chances of keeping the white house in 2008 are about the same as myself becoming President - Ever. :lol: People are tired of spending money on moronic things and they're tired of moronic people. Time for some Democratic rule. (I'm a member of neither side, for anyone who wants to think I'm biased. I'm on whoever's side that isn't dumb. Republican's are becoming overwhelmingly dumb, so they lost me. :lol:)

 

 

 

I'm just happy that both current parties leading choices for the next President are both FOR Stem Cell Research. I will probably smile a great big smile the day I see George Bush's [developmentally delayed]ed veto over-turned.

 

 

 

Huzzah for our future! Boo for sticking to 2,000 year old ideals based on the words of a book!

[Militaris]

A conservative is one who prefers older teachings and ideals and does not want change. However, oddly enough the conservatives have caused the most fundamental change in government policy we have seen in a century.

 

 

 

Then they are not conservative...

[runepaladn]

i like this view

 

 

 

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/61 ... -cheat.htm

 

 

 

yeah, it might not be accurate, but i like it...

[runesmithie]

i like this view

 

 

 

http://www.Not allowed.com/CollegePark/6174/jokes/liberal-conserv-cheat.htm

 

 

 

yeah, it might not be accurate, but i like it...

 

 

 

Nice one, that made me chuckle :lol:

[KCHughes]

Both sides are ridiculous paradoxes. Here's why.

 

 

 

Liberals claim to embrace freedom and civil and social liberties, and especially freedom from the military/industrial complex known as 'government.' However, they all want more government regulation in just about everything.

 

 

 

Conservatives claim to want less government interference in a country, in order to allow people to act as they please. But don't be fooled. They just want more money from their lobbyists and don't care at all for people who aren't CEOs of megacorporations.

 

 

 

The world according to KC. And don't flame me because I'm right, even though I am. :thumbsup:

[Oy_the_Great]

Both sides are ridiculous paradoxes. Here's why.

 

 

 

Liberals claim to embrace freedom and civil and social liberties, and especially freedom from the military/industrial complex known as 'government.' However, they all want more government regulation in just about everything.

 

 

 

Conservatives claim to want less government interference in a country, in order to allow people to act as they please. But don't be fooled. They just want more money from their lobbyists and don't care at all for people who aren't CEOs of megacorporations.

 

 

 

The world according to KC. And don't flame me because I'm right, even though I am. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Don't see the world in black and whites KC. Not all politicians become horny when they hear the words 'power' or 'money'. Actually, at least in Belgium, I'm sure that most politicians really want the best for the people. But as they grow older, they probably give up their ideals and crash into corporate stuff.

[Kewl_Sabre]

Ah, the eternal problem with government and the confines of the two-party system... (Well, in the U.S. at least).

 

 

 

I know a lot about politics - enough to terribly depress me, sadly, and also know enough about conservatives and liberals to know that I'm an independent.

 

 

 

Conservative and Liberal, or at least how they should be defined, no longer seem to fit the current Democratic or Republican parties anymore. No party that goes that far overbuget (*coughrepublicanscough*) can possibly be called conservative. No party that wants quite so many regulations (not all of them bad, but still defies the definition) can possibly be called Liberal.

 

 

 

But yea, I recognize the ideaologies. Nowadays you really have to apply these terms individually to Economic and Social policies.

[weezcake]

Kewl_Sabre said exactly what I wanted to say, but I had to go when I wrote up my second post. :x

[Adam007]

I think the whole setup of classifying someone as one of the two has ruined a lot about our country. Things shouldn't be simplified into the two classes. Nobody has a pure opinion applied to one of the two and allow people to vote ignorantly because they just vote one of the two based off the media or their work or religious affiliation tells them to. There are so many different issues and you can't place one choice to one side and the opposite choice to the other side, and then both sides push that opinion to the extreme to get the voters of each opinion. A big mess. Even George Washington said something about a two party type system being a really bad thing I think.

[pianofrieak2]

Let's see if I can clarify the situation a little bit.

 

 

 

The conservatives are people who are, oftentimes, agreeing with the bible and enforcing social rules which they believe to be correct. For instance, most "conservatives" are against gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research, abortion, etc. simply because they believe those to be murder or unnatural and wrong. Weezcake was right, however, in stating that the conservatives are oftentimes for less taxes and less government regulation. (See Ronald Reagan)

 

 

 

The liberals are those who are very lax regarding social regulations. Abortion, stem cell research, gay marriage, etc. are all okay because the government "doesn't have a right" to regulate your lifestyle. However, they are also very pro-taxes. Liberals always raise taxes and have more governmental control over industries. (more money!)

 

 

 

A big difference besides the social and economic policies is the welfare system. The conservatives are against much of the current welfare system. They claim it is very wasteful and impractical. And they are correct, for many in the welfare system are lazy and don't even try to get jobs. The liberals carry the opposite view and decrease military spending to spend it on welfare which results in more tax dollars to pay for the bureacracy and help the poorer classes.

 

 

 

That's pretty much the difference. Any questions? Just ask.

[Oy_the_Great]

Piano, you are once again the most right-winged subjective and (I'm sorry to say so) ignorant poster in this thread.

 

I wouldn't mind to see what would happen if you ended up on the street. If you claim the conservatives are right that the pityful thing some Americans call alimentation (which isn't even enough to have a less than decent living) is still too much, you should really try and survive for just one month with the amount of money these people get. You probably have no idea how fast money slips through your hands when you have to pay everything yourself since your, most likely wealthy, parents pay everything you need.

 

 

 

If you're on the street, getting a job where you can earn more than what alimentation supplies you, is incredibly hard if you don't have the right education, clothing, family or friends. I hope you're able to still find a tiny bit of what Jesus tried to tell us in your 'catholic' heart and at least grant these people the right to survive.